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How are things in Jacksonville ?
We left our house, which is 2 up from the St John's, and went to our son's house nearby in a no flood zone. All he's had here is wind and rain... his pool level's up about an inch but that's it. We will go home tomorrow and see what's up. BUT... there's still the surge coming up the St John's River from Orlando... so it's not quite over yet here.
 
Got this off of Instagram. Unsure how accurate it is.

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I saw part of the causeway in Sanibel collapsed. No idea what those people are going to do considering it's the only way in/out. We went there a few years ago on vacation and it was beautiful, but this obviously creates a massive problem that certainly won't be fixed quickly :(
 
Isn't that pretty much the universal sign of a tsunami?????? Can a hurricane even result in a tsunami?
that happens in a tsunami, but In this case it's actually expected, also, in a hurricane based on where it hit and where it was coming from.

If a big storm that is rotating counterclockwise approaches from the south and the eyewall misses you completely, you first get hours and hours of strong wind from the east. If you are on a western coastline with a harbor facing west or south west, the winds will first push the water out to sea. Often for HOURS. Then the back half of the hurricane will push it on shore, but the back half if usually (but not always) less intense in terms of wind.

Conversely, if you are on a eastern coastline with a harbor facing east or southeast, the winds of a hurricane coming from the south will more often push the water on shore.

The counterclockwise rotation is the key.
 
Isn't that pretty much the universal sign of a tsunami??????


Can a hurricane even result in a tsunami?
I haven’t researched this, but off the cuff: If you mean the ocean tide going out then flooding in, the reasons are different.

Ocean waves have crests and troughs. A tsunami is a giant wave of great amplitude and super long wavelength (resulting from some great shock like an earthquake), and as the wave hits shore the trough hits before the crest, thus the ocean tide recedes then comes in flooding everything.

A hurricane storm surge occurs from a combination of the hurricane suction which sucks the tide up and the wind blowing the water inward. Because of the counterclockwise circulation of hurricanes in the Northern hemisphere, Tampa’s tide was initially blown out, then the tide came in (but not as much as south of the eye where the storm surge was greater). That hurricane suction is the hurricane engine: moist warm air from a warm ocean is sucked up by the hurricane to great heights where it encounters cold air, the water vapor condenses releasing energy, and that energy goes into the hurricane wind. The warmer the ocean, the greater the energy available to maintain the hurricane.
 
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that happens in a tsunami, but In this case it's actually expected, also, in a hurricane based on where it hit and where it was coming from.

If a big storm that is rotating counterclockwise approaches from the south and the eyewall misses you completely, you first get hours and hours of strong wind from the east. If you are on a western coastline with a harbor facing west or south west, the winds will first push the water out to sea. Often for HOURS. Then the back half of the hurricane will push it on shore, but the back half if usually (but not always) less intense in terms of wind.

Conversely, if you are on a eastern coastline with a harbor facing east or southeast, the winds of a hurricane coming from the south will more often push the water on shore.

The counterclockwise rotation is the key.
Well, dang, Palm Beach Pats Fan scoops me again, just like with the Ideal Gas Law during Deflategate ;)
 
You are right that the tide also accentuated the effect.

Low tide yesterday was noonish in Tampa, and the easterly winds pushed out the water before, during, and just after low tide. High tide was 6PM-ish, matching when the wind was letting up and the water was coming back in.
 
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Nope. But that guy lives in Jax Beach. I’ve partied with him before on the 4th of July. He was the same guy with the American flag who was head banging in the wind during Matthew.

On the 4th of July in Jax Beach, they shut down everything from A1A to the Atlantic for through traffic and it’s just hundreds of thousands of people on bikes going from random house party to random house party. Kegs, slip and slides, pool parties, etc. He hosted a pretty big one a few years ago.
 
LMAO.

 
I'm laughing just by the name of the poster. "Sh*thead Steve". Years ago myself and 2 buddies (they are brothers) were out at a store. One brother got lost and the other yelled out "Over here Sh*t Head". All the people around looked at him. Since then we've been calling him Sh*t Head.
 


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