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Bleedthrough

2nd Team Getting Their First Start
2007 Pats = still the GOAT team. Regardless of what happened in the last game.
I love how even with the NFL’s attempt to neuter defenses over the last decade, no team has beaten their efficiency.

Top 10 All-Time Offensive DVOA
1. 2007 Patriots - 44.1%
2. 2010 Patriots - 42.8%
3. 2002 Chiefs - 35.4%
4. 2018 Chiefs - 35.4%
5. 1998 Broncos - 35.0%
6. 1992 49ers - 34.5%
7. 1984 Dolphins - 34.4%
8. 2011 Packers - 34.2%
9. 2013 Broncos - 34.2%
10. 2003 Chiefs - 33.9%

Top 10 All-Time Points Per Drive
1. 2007 Patriots - 3.37
2. 2018 Chiefs - 3.25
3. 2020 Packers - 3.22
4. 2018 Saints - 3.21
5. 2019 Ravens - 3.08
6. 2011 Packers - 3.05
7. 2016 Falcons - 3.04
8. 2011 Saints - 2.98
9. 2020 Titans - 2.98
10. 2020 Bills - 2.98

Top 10 All-Time Drive Success Rate
1. 2007 Patriots - .812
2. 2020 Packers - .801
3. 2018 Chiefs - .798
4. 2018 Saints - .797
5. 2020 Chiefs - .796
6. 2019 Ravens - .794
7. 2020 Bills - .794
8. 2020 Titans - .792
9. 2011 Saints - .788
10. 2012 Patriots- .787

Top 10 All-Time Touchdowns Per Drive
1. 2007 Patriots - .424
2. 2020 Packers - .418
3. 2018 Chiefs - .405
4. 2018 Saints - .381
5. 2011 Packers - .375
6. 2020 Titans - .375
7. 2013 Broncos - .370
8. 2004 Colts - .367
9. 2019 Ravens - .367
10. 2011 Saints - .356
 

ArchAngel007

In the Starting Line-Up
I love how even with the NFL’s attempt to neuter defenses over the last decade, no team has beaten their efficiency.

Top 10 All-Time Offensive DVOA
1. 2007 Patriots - 44.1%
2. 2010 Patriots - 42.8%
3. 2002 Chiefs - 35.4%
4. 2018 Chiefs - 35.4%
5. 1998 Broncos - 35.0%
6. 1992 49ers - 34.5%
7. 1984 Dolphins - 34.4%
8. 2011 Packers - 34.2%
9. 2013 Broncos - 34.2%
10. 2003 Chiefs - 33.9%

Top 10 All-Time Points Per Drive
1. 2007 Patriots - 3.37
2. 2018 Chiefs - 3.25
3. 2020 Packers - 3.22
4. 2018 Saints - 3.21
5. 2019 Ravens - 3.08
6. 2011 Packers - 3.05
7. 2016 Falcons - 3.04
8. 2011 Saints - 2.98
9. 2020 Titans - 2.98
10. 2020 Bills - 2.98

Top 10 All-Time Drive Success Rate
1. 2007 Patriots - .812
2. 2020 Packers - .801
3. 2018 Chiefs - .798
4. 2018 Saints - .797
5. 2020 Chiefs - .796
6. 2019 Ravens - .794
7. 2020 Bills - .794
8. 2020 Titans - .792
9. 2011 Saints - .788
10. 2012 Patriots- .787

Top 10 All-Time Touchdowns Per Drive
1. 2007 Patriots - .424
2. 2020 Packers - .418
3. 2018 Chiefs - .405
4. 2018 Saints - .381
5. 2011 Packers - .375
6. 2020 Titans - .375
7. 2013 Broncos - .370
8. 2004 Colts - .367
9. 2019 Ravens - .367
10. 2011 Saints - .356
What's interesting to me other than the 98 Broncos, none of those teams won the Superbowl. Goes to show that defense is always more important come playoff time
 

sb1

Pro Bowl Player
I love how even with the NFL’s attempt to neuter defenses over the last decade, no team has beaten their efficiency.

Top 10 All-Time Offensive DVOA
1. 2007 Patriots - 44.1%
2. 2010 Patriots - 42.8%
3. 2002 Chiefs - 35.4%
4. 2018 Chiefs - 35.4%
5. 1998 Broncos - 35.0%
6. 1992 49ers - 34.5%
7. 1984 Dolphins - 34.4%
8. 2011 Packers - 34.2%
9. 2013 Broncos - 34.2%
10. 2003 Chiefs - 33.9%

Top 10 All-Time Points Per Drive
1. 2007 Patriots - 3.37
2. 2018 Chiefs - 3.25
3. 2020 Packers - 3.22
4. 2018 Saints - 3.21
5. 2019 Ravens - 3.08
6. 2011 Packers - 3.05
7. 2016 Falcons - 3.04
8. 2011 Saints - 2.98
9. 2020 Titans - 2.98
10. 2020 Bills - 2.98

Top 10 All-Time Drive Success Rate
1. 2007 Patriots - .812
2. 2020 Packers - .801
3. 2018 Chiefs - .798
4. 2018 Saints - .797
5. 2020 Chiefs - .796
6. 2019 Ravens - .794
7. 2020 Bills - .794
8. 2020 Titans - .792
9. 2011 Saints - .788
10. 2012 Patriots- .787

Top 10 All-Time Touchdowns Per Drive
1. 2007 Patriots - .424
2. 2020 Packers - .418
3. 2018 Chiefs - .405
4. 2018 Saints - .381
5. 2011 Packers - .375
6. 2020 Titans - .375
7. 2013 Broncos - .370
8. 2004 Colts - .367
9. 2019 Ravens - .367
10. 2011 Saints - .356
Tom Brady & the '07 Patriots Light Up Miami with 5 TD's IN THE FIRST HALF | NFL Highlights - YouTube

Just listen to the announcers fanboying all over Brady and the offense. I've never heard any announcer do this before or after.
 

Ice_Ice_Brady

Team Bill's Worst Nightmare

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I understand all of that, but I think if someone is making a Top 10 Quarterbacks of All Time list, Otto Graham should be no lower than 3 in my opinion. I see lots of people do this, and some of my friends are guilty of it too. They'll give their 10 quarterbacks, and throw in Graham, and sometimes Unitas or Starr at 8-10. What that's telling me is their list is more like Top 10 of the Super Bowl era and those guys get a token mention.

Otto Graham did this

His record was 105-17-4 or 57-13-1 depending on where you look. He also had the accolades and dominant stats for his era.


1946: 12-2, 1st in scoring, won Championship
1947: 12-1-1, 1st in scoring, won Championship
1948: 14-0, 2nd in scoring, won Championship
1949: 9-1-2, 2nd in scoring, won Championship
1950: 10-2, 4th in scoring, won Championship
1951: 11-1, 3rd in scoring, lost Championship
1952: 8-4, 3rd in scoring, lost Championship
1953: 11-1, 4th in scoring, lost Championship
1954: 9-3, 2nd in scoring, won Championship
1955: 9-2-1, 1st in scoring, won Championship

And the year after Graham left
1956: 5-7, 11th in scoring


I had the below saved in my notes after seeing it years ago

How big of a difference did one man make? Graham retired after the 1955 season. The 1956 Browns returned their other ten offensive starters and had the leagues best defense - allowing 41 fewer points than the 1955 title team. They went 5-7.
Those numbers are very similar to what happened with the Celtics when Bill Russell played. They were nothing before he arrived, won 11 of 13 while he was there and then didn't win again for years after he left. Russell also gets overlooked.
 

RicoG

On the Game Day Roster
NFL.com says 10 teams has enquired about the status of Wilson. It's interesting that there is so much interest when he is not even available.

Meanwhile, around this time last year. The Goat was available. Vegas and 49rs were tripping over themselves to announce they weren't interested. While others such as Bears, Panthers, Colts, were more interested in other lesser QBs. It's hard to believe that only 2 teams, the Chargers and Buccaneers, were the only truly interested team in acquiring Brady.

Brady gets jilted again. More fuel to drive him.
 

NYCPATS4LIFE

In the Starting Line-Up
Any idea what type of surgery brady had on his knee? He’s gonna be out for awhile. It’s also on the same knee that he had surgery on in 2008 with the ACL.
 

carmelo15

2nd Team Getting Their First Start
NFL.com says 10 teams has enquired about the status of Wilson. It's interesting that there is so much interest when he is not even available.

Meanwhile, around this time last year. The Goat was available. Vegas and 49rs were tripping over themselves to announce they weren't interested. While others such as Bears, Panthers, Colts, were more interested in other lesser QBs. It's hard to believe that only 2 teams, the Chargers and Buccaneers, were the only truly interested team in acquiring Brady.

Brady gets jilted again. More fuel to drive him.

I mean Brady won a ring I’m pretty sure those teams had fights in the front office after the super bowl. Imagine picking that scrub Rivers or Jimmy G over Brady can’t make this **** up
 

Deus Irae

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Any idea what type of surgery brady had on his knee? He’s gonna be out for awhile. It’s also on the same knee that he had surgery on in 2008 with the ACL.
Well, if he's going to be able to get back on the field by June, it's not an ACL situation. And 4+ months is a long time for a basic cartilage clean.

So we know it's neither of them. Best I can do for you off the top of my head.
 

Deus Irae

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Chris Godwin would prefer to remain in Tampa, and he’d prefer a long-term deal. He might not get both.


The Buccaneers want to keep Godwin.


The best way for the Bucs to keep the receiver is to apply the franchise tag.

“Yeah, I mean, the way I look at it, similar to like a lot of guys,” Godwin told MJ Acosta of NFL Media. “Obviously, we all want to have long-term security; we all want to be able to take care of the people that we love. So that’s the ideal situation. But, you know, a franchise tag is not something that I can control. If that’s what keeps me here, then that’s what it is. And I’ll play on it and go back to war with my guys. Like I said, I love it here in in Tampa. I love what we have building, and I would love to stay.”



Chris Godwin on possibility of tag: I'll play on it and go back to war with my guys - ProFootballTalk
 

NYCPATS4LIFE

In the Starting Line-Up
Well, if he's going to be able to get back on the field by June, it's not an ACL situation. And 4+ months is a long time for a basic cartilage clean.

So we know it's neither of them. Best I can do for you off the top of my head.

Could it be a grade III mcl tear? That would be my guess. Recovery time is around 3 months.
 
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