OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[sb1]

Rams might be more legit than you think. If they beat Tom tonight in a revenge game they will position themselves nicely for a playoff run. Can old man Gronk still block AD?

I think they're our toughest opponent left on the schedule for sure.

Pats have a decent chance of being swept by the NFC in a season, first time since 2000 and just one season right after we swept the NFC part of our schedule. I wonder if that's ever happened in the league. Though to be fair, we went from playing the NFC Least last year to probably the best division in football this time.

 

[amfootball]

Cowboys beating the Vikes is also good for Tampa. The Vikes had won 3 in a row and were sneaking up in the WC picture. GB losing also helps if Tampa can somehow close in on the Saints for the division.

 

[amfootball]

Great interview with Willie and Tom.

Brady sits down with McGinest to reflect on 21st season, compare Arians to Belichick

Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady sits down with Willie McGinest to reflect on 21st season and compare Buccaneers head coach Bruce Arians to New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick.

www.nfl.com

 

[amfootball]

Great insights from 4 QBs on Brady and his transition to Tampa.

Lizard eyes, grit and avocado ice cream: QBs analyze Tom Brady's greatness

Trent Dilfer, Steve Young, Rich Gannon and Matt Hasselbeck break down what makes Tom Brady arguably the greatest quarterback in NFL history.

news.yahoo.com

 

[RicoG]

Cowboys beating the Vikes is also good for Tampa. The Vikes had won 3 in a row and were sneaking up in the WC picture. GB losing also helps if Tampa can somehow close in on the Saints for the division.

TB at TB just have to go 5-1 OR 6-0 the rest of the way and they'll have a good chance at being the division or conference leader.

In the days of TB at NE it always seemed easy. A win here here, a win there, and then next thing you know they are on 5 or so winning streak.

When NE had the talent, winning streaks were easy to predict. Tampa has the talent but they are hard to predict and you just cross your finger that they win 1 against a good team never mind winning 5 in a row.

 

[amfootball]

TB at TB just have to go 5-1 OR 6-0 the rest of the way and they'll have a good chance at being the division or conference leader.

In the days of TB at NE it always seemed easy. A win here here, a win there, and then next thing you know they are on 5 or so winning streak.

When NE had the talent, winning streaks were easy to predict. Tampa has the talent but they are hard to predict and you just cross your finger that they win 1 against a good team never mind winning 5 in a row.

Realistically, they are looking at a WC unless the Saints lose some with Hill but right now their D is playing really well. They should get to 11 wins which will be enough for the 5th seed and a first round game vs the NFC East winner. That is a good path for them. Especially if they draw GB in the second round.

 

[PP2]

Great insights from 4 QBs on Brady and his transition to Tampa.

Lizard eyes, grit and avocado ice cream: QBs analyze Tom Brady's greatness

Trent Dilfer, Steve Young, Rich Gannon and Matt Hasselbeck break down what makes Tom Brady arguably the greatest quarterback in NFL history.

news.yahoo.com

Good find. I enjoyed reading that.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Realistically, they are looking at a WC unless the Saints lose some with Hill but right now their D is playing really well. They should get to 11 wins which will be enough for the 5th seed and a first round game vs the NFC East winner. That is a good path for them. Especially if they draw GB in the second round.

If the Bucs get the top WC and the Giants end with the 4 seed, the Giants won’t be pushovers. they should be able to beat the eagles, redskins, or cowboys rather handily though.

 

[woolster22]

Brady is the GOAT under pressure. But, even in his prime, he had times where he was ineffective while getting raped up and down the field. I don’t think I need to mention the one game that springs to mind immediately. And he doesn’t miss Bill NEARLY as much as Bill misses him. Brady’s not getting exposed for being “done,” as was the popular talking point around here last season. Bill is, however, getting exposed as a sub-.500 HC. It matches his career record as a HC without Brady.

Anyone who claims this season is proof of anything regarding Bill (save recent draft day struggles) is a clown. The heart of the defense was gutted and he lost the GOAT qb. The fact they manufactured a win against Murder Inc speaks volumes about his coaching prowess. He's had a few questionable decisions and game management has struggled at times (weird things you expect from the Jete that have struck me as out of character), but for the most part, he's made the best of a potentially disastrous season. The opt-outs alone would crush most teams.

 

[Kontradiction]

Anyone who claims this season is proof of anything regarding Bill (save recent draft day struggles) is a clown. The heart of the defense was gutted and he lost the GOAT qb. The fact they manufactured a win against Murder Inc speaks volumes about his coaching prowess. He's had a few questionable decisions and game management has struggled at times (weird things you expect from the Jete that have struck me as out of character), but for the most part, he's made the best of a potentially disastrous season. The opt-outs alone would crush most teams.

Actually, next season will be the one that defines Bill without Brady. This was destined to be an 8-8 year (at best) once Brady dipped. Coupled with them being hamstrung by the cap (due to one bad draft after another since 2013), the opt outs, and the schedule, most people should have seen this coming.

 

[woolster22]

Actually, next season will be the one that defines Bill without Brady. This was destined to be an 8-8 year (at best) once Brady dipped. Coupled with them being hamstrung by the cap (due to one bad draft after another since 2013), the opt outs, and the schedule, most people should have seen this coming.

The cap ramifications of covid may play havoc for a few years, but we should be in good cap shape regardless. I'd agree '21 and '22 will define BB as much as the last 20 years have. If he hits his picks and gets things moving in the right direction, arguably GOAT HC. If he finds another franchise qb and/or goes on another AFCCG tear, his legacy as GM/HC will likely go unchallenged. If he flounders, he's still arguably GOAT HC, but will forever be subject to the idea "Brady made him as much as vice versa."

 

[amfootball]

The cap ramifications of covid may play havoc for a few years, but we should be in good cap shape regardless. I'd agree '21 and '22 will define BB as much as the last 20 years have. If he hits his picks and gets things moving in the right direction, arguably GOAT HC. If he finds another franchise qb and/or goes on another AFCCG tear, his legacy as GM/HC will likely go unchallenged. If he flounders, he's still arguably GOAT HC, but will forever be subject to the idea "Brady made him as much as vice versa."

Everything is tied to him finding a legit Qb. Not an easy task but he needs to fire all his bullets to get the guy. If he signs Newton than he is destined for mediocrity post Brady.

 

[woolster22]

Everything is tied to him finding a legit Qb. Not an easy task but he needs to fire all his bullets to get the guy. If he signs Newton than he is destined for mediocrity post Brady.

Signing Newton for a few years and finding a Franchise QB are not mutually exclusive. The way things are going, Cam won't be demanding much. He isn't a horrible option as a guy that can bridge a year then remain as a serviceable back-up to whoever gets drafted.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Signing Newton for a few years and finding a Franchise QB are not mutually exclusive. The way things are going, Cam won't be demanding much. He isn't a horrible option as a guy that can bridge a year then remain as a serviceable back-up to whoever gets drafted.

Yup. Cam for another year while Mac Jones learns the offense
Would be nice

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[TBR]

These OL injuries are brutal. Anyway, the Brady to AB connection looks like it's just getting started. What a 3rd down catch by Brown.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

pLaYeR’s CoAcH

 

[JMC00]

Rams just carving them up

 

[TBR]

Leftwich and Bowles are putrid coaches/coordinators. The Bucs offense and defense only succeeds at times because of their talent. The coaching is effectively like giving those players cement shoes.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Leftwich and Bowles are putrid coaches/coordinators. The Bucs offense and defense only succeeds at times because of their talent. The coaching is effectively like giving those players cement shoes.

I dunno. Leftwich looks pretty good. Like a head coaching candidate. And McDaniels looks terrible and totally exposed without Tom Brady

 

[TBR]

Case in point on that ridiculous Evans TD. Talent is going to carry that offense in spite of Byron Leftwich at OC.