OT: Lamar Jackson on whether defenses have figured him out: "I doubt it, dude. I doubt it. I strongly doubt it. I’m gonna play ball."

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Lamar Jackson doubts defenses have figured him out

Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson is confident heading into his fourth NFL season.

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[Sicilian]

I'm pretty sure teams figured out Jackson pretty quickly. It's just a matter of giving the guys who can actually run with him the experience to recognize when he's taking off. Most of the guys playing defense today weren't around to play against Michael Vick. Teams have "figured out" Tom Brady at this point too, but knowing what to do and being able to execute it for 60 minutes are two different things. It's not like Jackson has invented any of the plays he's running. These are concepts that have been around for ages, he's just more athletic than the guys who have typically run them in the past.

 

[amfootball]

Honestly, I like Lamar a lot. That dude can flat out ball and he wins a tons of games. Not sure if he will ever develop his passing skills enough to get them a chip but his overall game is a beast and he is fun as heck to watch play.

Oh and I loathe the Ravens. I hope we beat them 65-0. Just wanted to make sure that was clear.

 

[Steve102]

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Adjusted Net Yards/Attempt (Counts running plays, sacks, interceptions, TDs)

2018: 6.08 (didn't meet minimum attepts)
2019: 8.19 (4th)
2020: 6.70 (17th)

An historic, outlier season for a rushing QB, like Jackson in 2019, is still not even tops in the league.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Mindhunters is an unbelievable show. Really hoping they get their **** together and come back for S3.

Which one of you cowards wants to fight about Lamar Jackson??

 

[RobertWeathers]

Mindhunters is an unbelievable show. Really hoping they get their **** together and come back for S3.

Which one of you cowards wants to fight about Lamar Jackson??

I really don't like him as an all-around QB.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Seriously though they didn't invent anything new. As @Sicilian said Jackson is just a freak and extremely elusive & fast. Plus even though he's taken a few, he avoids the big hit better than most anyone no matter the position. Just great awareness in the pocket, on the run, really no matter where he is.

A few years ago they had lightening in a bottle. Last year the OL regressed to the point where it was an accomplishment to get a snap off without incident. TE's regressed. Bottom 5 WR corp (yes maybe worse than ours) . Lamar obviously wasn't as great but he's incredibly efficient overall (26/9) and still was the best player on the team, leading them to the post-season.

He still has trouble throwing outside the #'s and might always have issues there but you have to do better than Willie Snead as your most consistent target.

He's one of the best anticipatory passers when it comes to the MOF btw








He definitely has his flaws but you accept those bc he's a "Z" type athlete that stands out among the best of the best.

Also lets stop calling him a "running QB" or anything stupid like that and address real concerns bc he has them. No need to make stuff up. He obviously runs but that's a 2nd/3rd option unless it's designed. Not bc he can't read a defense ir anything like that. He's a pocket passer (flawed like 98% of the QB's in the league) who can run. And he'd be a fool not to use everything available to him in that respect.

That said he's their entire offense and been the biggest reason why they've been to playoffs 3 years in a row.

He's been the best QB in his division for a few years ..


And his draft class so far ...
Highest comp% - passer rating - YPA, 4th in yards, last in INT (18) among big names, sacked the least among Allen, Darnold, Baker, most W/least L (if that's your thing), rushing yards/rushing yards attempt, rushing yards game.

 

[Triumph]

I really don't like him as an all-around QB.

The shelf life for NFL RBs is short.

Jacksons days are numbered if he doesnt change. Vick, RG3, they burst onto the scene and go off on the back of the John Deere.

 

[Delicate Genius]

Why does he suck so bad in the playoffs?

 

[Deus Irae]

Why does he suck so bad in the playoffs?

Because he's a running quarterback.

 

[amfootball]

The shelf life for NFL RBs is short.

Jacksons days are numbered if he doesnt change. Vick, RG3, they burst onto the scene and go off on the back of the John Deere.

He is so elusive though. He does not take the same hits as Vick and RG3. That being said, he needs to play more like Russell Wilson IMO. Play from the pocket but when the run is there, take it and then slide or get out of bounds.

 

[RobertWeathers]

The shelf life for NFL RBs is short.

Jacksons days are numbered if he doesnt change. Vick, RG3, they burst onto the scene and go off on the back of the John Deere.

Exactly. Another 4-5 years max.

I'll take a pocket QB and his draft peer Josh Allen any day of the week.

 

[amfootball]

Exactly. Another 4-5 years max.

I'll take a pocket QB and his draft peer Josh Allen any day of the week.

I would take Allen in a heartbeat.

 

[Triumph]

He is so elusive though. He does not take the same hits as Vick and RG3. That being said, he needs to play more like Russell Wilson IMO. Play from the pocket but when the run is there, take it and then slide or get out of bounds.

Seems like Jackson is taking more and more hits.

Wilsons style is just about right.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Mindhunters is an unbelievable show. Really hoping they get their **** together and come back for S3. Which one of you cowards wants to fight about Lamar Jackson??

I see two subjects that are alike: both might be finished very soon, and much sooner than everyone thought.

 

[Triumph]

I would take Allen in a heartbeat.

He is so close to being elite.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I would take Allen in a heartbeat.

LJs sacks per dropback was 13

Josh Allen was 22 per dropback.

From a career longevity standpoint, that matters a great deal.

Allen still runs too much but that'll cool in time.

 

[RobertWeathers]

He is so close to being elite.

Another year like last year he's top 3.

 

[amfootball]

LJs sacks per dropback was 13

Josh Allen was 22 per dropback.

From a career longevity standpoint, that matters a great deal.

Allen still runs too much but that'll cool in time.

He can be kind of helter skelter. He should mature out of that. I agree.