OT: Jim Boeheim, and has your view of a "sports scandal" change after Defamegate?

[ivanvamp]

It's amazing how that Cardinals hacking story has been completely buried. I had to look it up, but it broke 6 months ago and there's been very few developments or even discussion about it since then. I think there are 2 reasons for this:

1 - MLB acted like grown ups in this situation, didn't rush to any conclusions and are letting (or did let) the investigators do their job.

2 - There are a lot of baseball fans in the media who don't want to believe the worst about such a storied franchise like the Cardinals, so they either downplayed the report, were skeptical of it, or are waiting to hear what the FBI has to say. As an example, Chris Russo, who believed the Patriots were 100% guilty from Kravitz's first tweet, but refuses to read any of the reports or testimony, urged everyone not to make any snap judgements about the Cardinals.

It really is pretty remarkable. What the Patriots allegedly did was circumvent the rules to lighten the air pressure of footballs by a few tenths of a psi. Which, by scientific study, would be almost completely negligible. What the Cardinals did was not only go agains the integrity of the game, it was corporate espionage - a felony. People could - and quite possibly will - go to prison for what they did.

Yet the Pats' alleged infraction is treated like the worst scandal ever while the Cardinals' infraction is almost completely unmentioned and forgotten about.

 

[memento]

My views of any scandal have changed including political. Defamegate was a local scandal and relatively easy to follow compared to politics. IMO I was able to read just about every report, transcript and briefings and I see so many parallels between them both. Fraudulent PR releases? Check. Blind masses (fans) who quote the fraudulent PR releases as truths? Double Check. Half truths? Check. Controlling parties with ulterior agendas? Check

I am not a Hillary supporter but her "personal server" issue was very Defamegate like. IMO

Speaking of which, the formatting for the original appeal hearing with Goodell is poor. Each page is a scan of four pages that go from upper left, lower left, upper right, lower right. I don't know if that's how it's done in other transcripts but I find it an inconvenience, even with the pdf saved on my desktop.

Here Is The Transcript From Tom Brady's Appeal Hearing [UPDATED]

 

[Tony2046]

Speaking of which, the formatting for the original appeal hearing with Goodell is poor. Each page is a scan of four pages that go from upper left, lower left, upper right, lower right. I don't know if that's how it's done in other transcripts but I find it an inconvenience, even with the pdf saved on my desktop.

Here Is The Transcript From Tom Brady's Appeal Hearing [UPDATED]

Yes it was a different format than the other transcripts I have on file but still useful.

On a side note that transcript was the first and really the only peak at the kinds of crap that was going on behind close doors on record.

 

[upstater1]

Syracuse got off lightly.

Compare what happened there to UConn's APR ban. The UConn ban was harsher. And this means that you should be encouraged to rig academics for bball players and/or use ineligible players, because the punishment for being caught is less than the punishment for accurately reporting grades.

I also don't think the question of what anyone knew is really relevant here. It's the fact of playing with ineligible players, and the NCAA (as problematic as that organization is) has always docked games that used ineligible players.

I have to say though that in Syracuse's case, someone definitely knew about the money and the classes. The difference between the Patriots and Syracuse is that it was never even shown the balls were deflated by someone, whereas at Syracuse, the findings were definite, whether the coach knew about them or not.

The Syracuse question remains though as to how or why players were routed to that YMCA where they received money.

Just compare Syracuse's punishment to UConn's retroactive APR punishment and you'll see why the NCAA actually encourages cheating with lighter punishment such as what Syracuse received. If your players are ever in academic trouble, just lie about it. If you get caught, you receive a lesser punishment than actually reporting that your players left spring classes to attend the NBA combine.