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OT: Jason Cole: Oakland wants to fire Cable

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Re: MSNBC Reporting Oakland Wants To Fire Cable

It's actually Yahoo reporting this, not MSNBC.

MSNBC wouldn't be breaking any sports related stories.
 
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The stars are aligning for this guy to be Oakland's next head coach:

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Please God, let that be true. :singing:

The point is getting a 2011 draft pick rather than one in 2010 is that hopefully there will be a rookie wage scale by then which will curb the wild contracts given top ten picks...

I have zero fear of getting the 1st-2nd pick, even if the wage scale is not in by them BB will trade out of that spot so fast and in the process MAXIMIZE the value of it with EASILY 1,2, 3 OR EVEN 4 OTHER PICKS
 
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Please God, let that be true. :singing:



I have zero fear of getting the 1st-2nd pick, even if the wage scale is not in by them BB will trade out of that spot so fast and in the process MAXIMIZE the value of it with EASILY 1,2, 3 OR EVEN 4 OTHER PICKS

That is the most likely scenario, unless the next Lawrence Taylor is out there and we have the pick.
 
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This is a blurb from Rotoworld:

JaMarcus Russell said after Sunday's loss to San Diego that he was pleased with his 109-yard passing effort.

"I did a pretty good job," he said. Russell took five sacks, fumbled, threw an interception, averaged under five yards per pass attempt, and completed two passes for 16 yards to his wide receivers.

As long as that guy is still the QB, the Pats will be picking very early and hopefully very late on Day 1 of the draft in 2011.
 
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Ummm, I want them to keep Cable.

The funny thing, if you ask Raiders fans, is that they thought felony assault amongst the coaches would actually HELP. That's the fundamental flaw in the makeup of their fanbase.
 
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That would be SWEET. Only thing I am concerned of is having 2 second round picks (a good concern

We had a quantity draft last year and so far struck GOLD with so many players contributing and being part of the future.

My point is, if we have a quantity draft this year, I think it would be wasted picks because they would not make the team.

For the 2010 draft, I say we trade up for a QUALITY draft with few players. This team can afford to do that with the talent and depth.

Say, trade a 2nd and a 3rd for another late 1st round pick. Draft 2 good first round talents, and use the other 2nd to gamble on Tebow.

Once again, as someone else pointed out, the 2011 draft is expected to be the rookie salary cap draft.

You're strategizing in the wrong direction. Quantity in 2010, top quality in 2011. The smart Patriots continue to steal other team's lunch money.
 
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Ummm, I want them to keep Cable.

You are assuming that Cable's replacement will be an upgrade to Cable. Ever since Davis fired Gruden, the quality of head coach has progressively declined.

I'm hearing that if and when Davis fires Cable, Beetlejuice from the Howard Stern show is his leading candidate.

 
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I'd rather have that than the stability that Cable is building now.

Stability? Cable has about the most dysfunctional work environment in sports. Hes assaulting position coaches, random women, and his players. More please.
 
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I have zero fear of getting the 1st-2nd pick, even if the wage scale is not in by them BB will trade out of that spot so fast and in the process MAXIMIZE the value of it with EASILY 1,2, 3 OR EVEN 4 OTHER PICKS

Bill Belichick has never traded out of the top 10, you realize that, right?
 
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I'd say it's not a question of if Al Davis will fire Cable; the question is when.

The intriguing part of this story will be what reason Davis will try to give for not paying Cable whatever money he is still owed on his contract. Once that happens, maybe Cable, Lane Kiffin and Mike Shanahan can start a class-action suit against Davis and the Raiders.
 
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Stability? Cable has about the most dysfunctional work environment in sports. Hes assaulting position coaches, random women, and his players. More please.

Now, I am not defending him at all- I am just pointing out that I think he has the respect of the players now. I think he is only hamstrung because he is forced to start or use players he does not like (e.g., Jamarcus Russell).

For the record, Cable has not assaulted a player.

He assaulted Hanson who was pretty unpopular to start with, and an Al Davis hire. The players, upon hearing this, chanted "Bumaye Cable" when they saw him next (See: Ali, Muhammed). To me, while humorous, I think it signifies he has their respect now. That is a big part of building stability.
 
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Now, I am not defending him at all- I am just pointing out that I think he has the respect of the players now. I think he is only hamstrung because he is forced to start or use players he does not like (e.g., Jamarcus Russell).

For the record, Cable has not assaulted a player.

He assaulted Hanson who was pretty unpopular to start with, and an Al Davis hire. The players, upon hearing this, chanted "Bumaye Cable" when they saw him next (See: Ali, Muhammed). To me, while humorous, I think it signifies he has their respect now. That is a big part of building stability.

Ya see, the fact that the players like Cable and don't like Hanson is exactly why I want Cable coaching there, because Cable's fellow coaches clearly don't respect him, whereas Hanson was well liked by players in the league. They backed the guy as a solid worker, good football mind, good coach. The Raider's players are a bunch of misfits who wouldn't know a good coach.
 
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Ya see, the fact that the players like Cable and don't like Hanson is exactly why I want Cable coaching there, because Cable's fellow coaches clearly don't respect him, whereas Hanson was well liked by players in the league. They backed the guy as a solid worker, good football mind, good coach. The Raider's players are a bunch of misfits who wouldn't know a good coach.

Are you kidding me? Hanson is a big time ass**** he was suspended by Lane Kiffin.

Hanson was demoted to defensive assistant, and later played a role in getting Lane fired.

Nobody likes him because he is a snitch for Al Davis.
 
If the Raiders cite cause as the reason for terminating Cable's contract, that might make it easier for Hanson to prevail in his lawsuit against the Raiders. Seems like Al Davis loses either way.
 
As long as Al Davis is running the Raiders they will not be a winner.

The question we should be asking is; who else can we trade to them for another pick?
 
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Are you kidding me? Hanson is a big time ass**** he was suspended by Lane Kiffin.

Hanson was demoted to defensive assistant, and later played a role in getting Lane fired.

Nobody likes him because he is a snitch for Al Davis.

No, I'm not kidding you. I read an in-depth report about Hanson and you should read it too, because he was an up and comer who had a lot of respect from a lot of players who still call him.

This isn't a secret. The guy knows his football and knows it well. A lot of players elsewhere in the league swear by him.

Kiffin was the arse, not Hanson. read up on him.

Former defensive coordinator Rob Ryan's portrait of Hanson seemed to confirm Hanson's relentless pursuit of his dream job.

"He doesn't sleep at night, he just studies, studies, studies," Ryan said Aug. 8, 2007. "And this guy was hired to (break down opponents) for us, personnelwise, and he's been tremendous. Smartest guy. Like I say, 'Man, you might be the smartest guy in the National Football League.'

Known for his intense work ethic and aptitude in breaking down opponents’ tendencies, Hanson was a highly regarded offensive assistant during a three-year stint with the Minnesota Vikings from 2003 to 2005.

“Randy Hanson’s a great coach,” said former Vikings center Matt Birk, a perennial Pro Bowl selection now with the Baltimore Ravens. “He would break down opposing defenses for us, and he was outstanding. He’s an extremely hard worker. That used to be the joke – he never stopped. He’d sleep in the office and watch every bit of tape he could find.”

Added former Vikings quarterback Brad Johnson: “I really enjoyed being around him. He brought a lot of flavor to the room and to the field, and I thought he had a lot of insights into game plans.”

After spending the ’06 season with the St. Louis Rams, Hanson was let out of his contract to join first-year coach Lane Kiffin’s Oakland staff because, he says, then Rams-coach Scott Linehan was aware of his devotion to the Raiders. In Oakland, he worked as an assistant secondary coach in charge of third-down defenses and impressed his fellow coaches with his knowledge of opposing offenses and his ability to convey his insights to the players.

“He knows what the opposing team’s gonna do before they know what they’re gonna do,” said one former Raiders assistant who worked closely with Hanson. “That’s how much tape he watches. And he’s a damn good football coach, too.”
 
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No, I'm not kidding you. I read an in-depth report about Hanson and you should read it too, because he was an up and comer who had a lot of respect from a lot of players who still call him.

This isn't a secret. The guy knows his football and knows it well. A lot of players elsewhere in the league swear by him.

Kiffin was the arse, not Hanson. read up on him.

Do you have a link? I was not aware of that.. What I've read is saying otherwise.
 
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