PostGame Thread OFFICIAL POSTGAME THREAD: Patriots lose to Raiders 21-17

[Jlaff]

People can blame Mac all they want (and he certainly isn't blameless), but no QB could make this offense good. There is no talent beyond maybe Bourne and Henry.

Thanks Rob, I can't tell you how long I've been hoping someone might make a comment like this.

 

[upstater1]

You can't start from absolutely nothing on Offense and have the situation "flipped quickly" unless one gets very lucky at QB.

OK, we're starting over. Some money needs to replace or re-sign Dugger, Uche and Jenning.
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How can fill all the needs of Offense? Who are you keeping? Douglas? Rham? anyone else?
2 QB
4 WR
3 RB
3 TE
9 OL

I don't understand your post. You can keep all the good players, you have plenty of cap space. You need a new QB, a new RT, and talent at WR

So I'm not sure what your post is about.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Only winnable games on schedule are Commanders and Giants.

Don’t see either of those as probable wins

 

[RIpats88]

Mac was bad the receivers were bad the OL was bad.

Anyone acting like this is a one person fix is purely delusional. It's clear watching this roster they are devoid of talent.

The OL not even blocking people.

And that is all on coaching and the GM who built the team.

 

[lancerman]

You're hopelessly deluded

I can't wait until Zappe or Cunningham starts and just like last year we get excuses for why they stunk up the bed. Same with Stidham when he was here.

You just can't handle that Bill Belichick built the worst team in football, everyone with a pulse saw it coming. And there are no quick fixes or one player problems that can easily save this team.

Name a QB that makes the playoffs with this team?

 

[JR52]

The Jets win today has nothing to do with Wilson. In fact, it was despite Wilson. Three of their field goals came on drives of 8 yards, 16 yards, and 34 yards. And their TD was one play for 8 yards (a running play). It was all the Jets' defense today.

A running play that the Eagles let Hall walk in the end zone in order to get the ball back.

 

[upstater1]

I never said that. I said all 3 were under immense pressure and folded under this OL.

You are the only one making the argument that Mac makes the OL look bad

When it's obvious they are horrid. And that's not a defense of Mac

Mac had time today a lot. He panicked a lot. He had wide open guys and made bad decisions every time. OK, so there is pressure on you in the end zone (GET RID OF THE BALL!!!).

 

[mgteich]

Jets looking more
Competitive then us lol

I don't know why this is funny. Many had the patriots finishing 4th in the division.

 

[lancerman]

Mac was bad the receivers were bad the OL was bad.

Anyone acting like this is a one person fix is purely delusional. It's clear watching this roster they are devoid of talent.

The OL not even blocking people.

This a million times. Everyone outside a small subsect of Patriots fans realizes how bad this team is across the board.

It's insanely desperate to think this is one a player fix

 

[Patriot Missile]

Bill is 26-30 without Brady on the Pats

Right, obviously his drafting in his last 5-10 years has done him in. Obviously if you can’t draft or sign a qb your going down the pasture like so many others have.

Having Brady makes the oline’s job a lot easier. No one moved in the pocket like he did with the pressure.

 

[sb1]

You saw Hoyer?
He’s better than Mac, I don’t know if Robert is going to let Bill make any moves.
Like any business owner you now know the man who is responsible
For the success of your company is not the guy anymore.
You will question any and every move they make and block certain moves.

Actually I look at it differently I think what we saw from Hoyer is what happens when you have good or at least NFL level receivers and oline on your side.

We don’t have either and the results speaks for itself. This isn’t a quick fix.

 

[Rob0729]

Thanks Rob, I can't tell you how long I've been hoping someone might make a comment like this.

I'm here for you buddy. I try to post posts that are clearly not defense of Mac that you are convinced I am defending Mac. I do these things just for you.

 

[Ian]

I can't wait until Zappe or Cunningham starts and just like last year we get excuses for why they stunk up the bed. Same with Stidham when he was here.

You just can't handle that Bill Belichick built the worst team in football, everyone with a pulse saw it coming. And there are no quick fixes or one player problems that can easily save this team.

Name a QB that makes the playoffs with this team?

The kid missed three throws in the second half, including one that could have been the game-winner had Parker not dropped it. I've softened my stance on Mac, but I'm also a realist - this offensive line is a massive, massive issue.

 

[JR52]

Mac was bad the receivers were bad the OL was bad.

Anyone acting like this is a one person fix is purely delusional. It's clear watching this roster they are devoid of talent.

The OL not even blocking people.

And that is all on coaching and the GM who built the team.

There's no doubt that the OL is terrible and that the WR's are not good enough to compete. Unrelated, Mac Jones is not an NFL caliber QB. All of these things are true.

 

[RIpats88]

Mac had time today a lot. He panicked a lot. He had wide open guys and made bad decisions every time. OK, so there is pressure on you in the end zone (GET RID OF THE BALL!!!).

Saying he had a lot of time is Abit much. Is romo blind then when all I hear all game is how poor the OL blocking is?

 

[condon84]

How soon we all forget the unforced interception Mac had over throwing a wide open Henry while driving.

These Mac fans are delusional. Blame everyone but his horrendous play.

 

[Real fan 02]

Only Carolina is worse

No. NE is worse.

 

[Fatmancryin]

I didn't forget that. That didn't cost us the game. Also why did that INT even happen? The QB was running for his life.

You can keep the INT and the 2 or 3 mediocre passes Mac threw.

If the receivers can keep a couple of the balls they should have got, the offensive line doesn't let up constantly and get penalties all day, and the defense doesn't get burned by Hoyer... Pats win. Pats win easily.

Problems go beyond the couple of bad plays Mac made

I agree .. The whole team is a problem. The QB isn’t very good regardless.

 

[Dedhampatsfan]

Jets knock off the Eagles...Any given Sunday...the season is still young...strange things hppen...injuries happen...s**t happens

 

[FCB02062]

Right, obviously his drafting in his last 5-10 years has done him in. Obviously if you can’t draft or sign a qb your going down the pasture like so many others have.

Having Brady makes the oline’s job a lot easier. No one moved in the pocket like he did with the pressure.

his drafting, free agency decisions, and overall philosophy have ****ed this team for the foreseeable future. they cannot win games if they don't score on defense or ST....I've been saying this for years