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PostGame Thread OFFICIAL POSTGAME THREAD: Patriots lose to Raiders 21-17

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Wilson is better than Mac.
Any chance Jets let him for a third next offseason?

The Jets win today has nothing to do with Wilson. In fact, it was despite Wilson. Three of their field goals came on drives of 8 yards, 16 yards, and 34 yards. And their TD was one play for 8 yards (a running play). It was all the Jets' defense today.
 
Pats are 1-1 in the Division...
 
If Jimmy is out for a while I wonder if Josh and Bill will be having a conversation about Mac sometime soon…
You saw Hoyer?
He’s better than Mac, I don’t know if Robert is going to let Bill make any moves.
Like any business owner you now know the man who is responsible
For the success of your company is not the guy anymore.
You will question any and every move they make and block certain moves.
 
Jets looking more
Competitive then us lol
 
How soon we all forget the unforced interception Mac had over throwing a wide open Henry while driving.
I didn't forget that. That didn't cost us the game. Also why did that INT even happen? The QB was running for his life.

You can keep the INT and the 2 or 3 mediocre passes Mac threw.

If the receivers can keep a couple of the balls they should have got, the offensive line doesn't let up constantly and get penalties all day, and the defense doesn't get burned by Hoyer... Pats win. Pats win easily.

Problems go beyond the couple of bad plays Mac made
 
Mac with another Horrible pick.

Parker with another game full of just absolute garbage.

at 1-5 the season feels like its officially out of reach. If JimmyG is done for the year, it would be interesting to see if the raiders would give up a #1 for Mac.
 
I don't understand why people keep turning this into an "either or" exercise. They all can be bad.

It's fairly obvious the OL and offense as a whole is lacking talent. We don't have to pretend the OL is passable.

If the QB is the total reason the OL collapses instantly then Malik Cunningham should've lit it up. Or zappe in his relief stints.
????????????

Who said Malik or Zappe were the answers?

Are those 3 the only possbilities?

Malik is an undrafted FA who hasn't run the offense at all even in practice. He was there for gadget plays

Zappe we know what he is. He doesn't have the arm (though he can certainly stand in the pocket and show poise 100% better than Mac)
 
They are, but the draft should be deep at the positions that they need, and they also have copious cap space available. That situation can be flipped quickly with a skilled approach. I don't have a lot of confidence Bill is the guy to do it at this stage.
You can't start from absolutely nothing on Offense and have the situation "flipped quickly" unless one gets very lucky at QB.

OK, we're starting over. Some money needs to replace or re-sign Dugger, Uche and Jenning.
=======================
How can fill all the needs of Offense? Who are you keeping? Douglas? Rham? anyone else?
2 QB
4 WR
3 RB
3 TE
9 OL
 
Mac with another Horrible pick.

Parker with another game full of just absolute garbage.

at 1-5 the season feels like its officially out of reach. If JimmyG is done for the year, it would be interesting to see if the raiders would give up a #1 for Mac.
Josh knows Mac too well. No way.
 
Jets looking more
Competitive then us lol
They are a better team.

Better defense. Better special teams Better running backs. Their top WR's are better. The only question marks are the offensive line and QB. Which we suck at too. They are probably a playoff team with Rodgers.

We are not a playoff team with Rodgers
 
????????????

Who said Malik or Zappe were the answers?

Are those 3 the only possbilities?

Malik is an undrafted FA who hasn't run the offense at all even in practice. He was there for gadget plays

Zappe we know what he is. He doesn't have the arm (though he can certainly stand in the pocket and show poise 100% better than Mac)

I never said that. I said all 3 were under immense pressure and folded under this OL.

You are the only one making the argument that Mac makes the OL look bad

When it's obvious they are horrid. And that's not a defense of Mac
 
So to rub salt into the wound, the team previously called the Jests, just beat the Eagles.
 
Jets looking more
Competitive then us lol

Their defense was awesome today. Their offense is still garbage. Their defense single handily won the game.
 
Jets are 3-3, lost their historical franchise free agent in game 1....and the Pats are 1-5
 
Jets just knocked off the undefeated eagles

We’re truly the basement dwellers now
 
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