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He must have PTSD as he gets a ton of time to throw, gets happy feet too fast, and then goes backward right into the pass rush.
Onwenu knocks his guy down, Trent is holding up, even McDermott holds his block. Time to step up and throw Mac, even a tough throw into the end zone. No time to wait for guys to come loose. Not going to happen. Instead Mac gets jittery and kills the play just when the OL is doing its job. Step up and throw.
This is my worry about Mac, either he's been so impacted by what's gone on with the offense and OL that he can't do what QBs need to do when the opportunity presents itself, or else he's checked out mentally.
Yep hated that play any decent QB makes a play there Mac made the OL look bad on probably their best pass Blocking play of the night. Mac seems nervous to take a passing shot in the EZ... when he gets in the RZ it's like he doesn't trust his arm.
He must have PTSD as he gets a ton of time to throw, gets happy feet too fast, and then goes backward right into the pass rush.
Onwenu knocks his guy down, Trent is holding up, even McDermott holds his block. Time to step up and throw Mac, even a tough throw into the end zone. No time to wait for guys to come loose. Not going to happen. Instead Mac gets jittery and kills the play just when the OL is doing its job. Step up and throw.
This is my worry about Mac, either he's been so impacted by what's gone on with the offense and OL that he can't do what QBs need to do when the opportunity presents itself, or else he's checked out mentally.
Everybody is criticizing Matty P for a conservative game plan. At the beginning of the season I thought everyone agreed and expected a conservative, running game approach. Now it seems everyone wants a throw it deep, explosive game plan. The QB threw well this game, last game was not good. Plays called don't work usually because a player or players don't execute an assignment. One play flowed right Mac threw back to Rham, Andrews had position on Golden, didn't even slow him down and Rham dropped immediately with 20 yards open ahead of him. Good play call on third and long would have been successful. Later a play call to run right, AZ was overloaded to right, QB did not change play and ran right into defense. Mac was feisty last night and even during his press conference he had a more forceful demeanor than usual. I liked that. I didn't like his outburst on the field.
He must have PTSD as he gets a ton of time to throw, gets happy feet too fast, and then goes backward right into the pass rush.
Onwenu knocks his guy down, Trent is holding up, even McDermott holds his block. Time to step up and throw Mac, even a tough throw into the end zone. No time to wait for guys to come loose. Not going to happen. Instead Mac gets jittery and kills the play just when the OL is doing its job. Step up and throw.
This is my worry about Mac, either he's been so impacted by what's gone on with the offense and OL that he can't do what QBs need to do when the opportunity presents itself, or else he's checked out mentally.
Not sure it on Jones. He might deserve some of the blame, but not all of it. I don't see anyone open on that play other than Henry, who doesn't get open until after he is spun around by the defender and Jones is running to the right, and Harris, who slowed down his route to chip block the DE. It looks like the play was intended for the receiver on the left who ran right into the high safety rather than trying to avoid him or reroute towards the corner of the end zone where he would have been alone.
Jones might have been able to get the ball to Harris, but there was a lot of traffic between the two and it would have likely only been a short gain. With it being second down, you can make the case not to throw it there.
I just don't think there was an option in the end zone especially to who looked to be the intended primary receiver on that play.
Not sure it on Jones. He might deserve some of the blame, but not all of it. I don't see anyone open on that play other than Henry, who doesn't get open until after he is spun around by the defender and Jones is running to the right, and Harris, who slowed down his route to chip block the DE. It looks like the play was intended for the receiver on the left who ran right into the high safety rather than trying to avoid him or reroute towards the corner of the end zone where he would have been alone.
Jones might have been able to get the ball to Harris, but there was a lot of traffic between the two and it would have likely only been a short gain. With it being second down, you can make the case not to throw it there.
I just don't think there was an option in the end zone especially to who looked to be the intended primary receiver on that play.
He must have PTSD as he gets a ton of time to throw, gets happy feet too fast, and then goes backward right into the pass rush.
Onwenu knocks his guy down, Trent is holding up, even McDermott holds his block. Time to step up and throw Mac, even a tough throw into the end zone. No time to wait for guys to come loose. Not going to happen. Instead Mac gets jittery and kills the play just when the OL is doing its job. Step up and throw.
This is my worry about Mac, either he's been so impacted by what's gone on with the offense and OL that he can't do what QBs need to do when the opportunity presents itself, or else he's checked out mentally.
Correct. OL did their jobs on that play.
?We both know thats not the norm.
One of the worst problems with having this putrid ol, is it makes it almost impossible to evaluate Mac. None of us,incl. BB,knows if hes gonna be the guy yet. An entire year of evaluation at the most crucial position is wasted.
We know that continuity is maybe tge most important trait of a good ol. And with all the injuries,thst hasnt happened. But it goes deeper. Theres a lack of talent issue. Onwenu,Andrews and Strange(watch how much better he is next year) are all solid-good. Thats it. The tackles have not been good incl. Brown.
Don't know who's available in fa this year but if there's any good ones we need one. Also if there's a stud in the draft. Do that get a real OC and if we don't see a greatly improved offense in 2023 it's time to find a new qb
>>At one point, you looked up and saw arguably the fastest skill group in years for New England: Nelson Agholor, Jonnu Smith, Thornton, Jones, and Strong. Speed, baby.
You could do a lot of damage with that set of players if they can get in synch. Could even have success throwing it underneath given all the receivers will likely be getting soft coverage and safeties will be far back.
Not sure it on Jones. He might deserve some of the blame, but not all of it. I don't see anyone open on that play other than Henry, who doesn't get open until after he is spun around by the defender and Jones is running to the right, and Harris, who slowed down his route to chip block the DE. It looks like the play was intended for the receiver on the left who ran right into the high safety rather than trying to avoid him or reroute towards the corner of the end zone where he would have been alone.
Jones might have been able to get the ball to Harris, but there was a lot of traffic between the two and it would have likely only been a short gain. With it being second down, you can make the case not to throw it there.
I just don't think there was an option in the end zone especially to who looked to be the intended primary receiver on that play.
If Mac had stepped up he would have had more time and somebody would have sprung loose. No D can hold coverage for that long he messed up the protection by his errant movement we have seen that too many times this year. I hope he learns from it could be the difference between coming away with 7 or 3 points.
Everybody is criticizing Matty P for a conservative game plan. At the beginning of the season I thought everyone agreed and expected a conservative, running game approach. Now it seems everyone wants a throw it deep, explosive game plan. The QB threw well this game, last game was not good. Plays called don't work usually because a player or players don't execute an assignment. One play flowed right Mac threw back to Rham, Andrews had position on Golden, didn't even slow him down and Rham dropped immediately with 20 yards open ahead of him. Good play call on third and long would have been successful. Later a play call to run right, AZ was overloaded to right, QB did not change play and ran right into defense. Mac was feisty last night and even during his press conference he had a more forceful demeanor than usual. I liked that. I didn't like his outburst on the field.
First, the Pats haven't been running the ball. They ran 14 times vs. Minnesota and 13 times vs. the Bills (and one was a QB sneak and the other was a Mac Jones run). The Pats haven't had a conservative running game approach for well over a month. In fact, the last time I remember them running an effective run first offense was against Detroit back in October.
Second, there is a different between being conservative and what the Pats are running which is an ultra conservative, predictable offense. Even when you are conservative, you have throw deeper than 5-8 yards at times to keep the defense honest.
Third, I don't know if anyone expect or wanted a conservative offensive plan. It was clear from the preseason that the Pats wanted a more vertical offense with a bunch of 50-50 balls. But that failed because of the talent on the field especially the o-line.
Correct. OL did their jobs on that play.
?We both know thats not the norm.
One of the worst problems with having this putrid ol, is it makes it almost impossible to evaluate Mac. None of us,incl. BB,knows if hes gonna be the guy yet. An entire year of evaluation at the most crucial position is wasted.
We know that continuity is maybe tge most important trait of a good ol. And with all the injuries,thst hasnt happened. But it goes deeper. Theres a lack of talent issue. Onwenu,Andrews and Strange(watch how much better he is next year) are all solid-good. Thats it. The tackles have not been good incl. Brown.
Don't know who's available in fa this year but if there's any good ones we need one. Also if there's a stud in the draft. Do that get a real OC and if we don't see a greatly improved offense in 2023 it's time to find a new qb
>>At one point, you looked up and saw arguably the fastest skill group in years for New England: Nelson Agholor, Jonnu Smith, Thornton, Jones, and Strong. Speed, baby.
You could do a lot of damage with that set of players if they can get in synch. Could even have success throwing it underneath given all the receivers will likely be getting soft coverage and safeties will be far back.
If Mac had stepped up he would have had more time and somebody would have sprung loose. No D can hold coverage for that long he messed up the protection by his errant movement we have seen that too many times this year. I hope he learns from it could be the difference between coming away with 7 or 3 points.
You don't know that. Again the receiver on the left ran into the safety that was was actually backing up which basically stopped his route. No effort was made to avoid the defender.
But Jones couldn't step into the pocket. Owenu blocked his guy right in front of Jones. The defender fell to the ground, but it allowed him to break free from Owenu and pursue Jones. Watch the actual play and don't just throw out the standard "Jones should have stepped up into the pocket rather than run around". There was no place for him to step up because Owenu and the defender were right in front of him.
Could Jones have bought more time? Maybe I don't know how. But the pocket collapsed. There was no place for him to stay in the pocket and throw.
Not sure it on Jones. He might deserve some of the blame, but not all of it. I don't see anyone open on that play other than Henry, who doesn't get open until after he is spun around by the defender and Jones is running to the right, and Harris, who slowed down his route to chip block the DE. It looks like the play was intended for the receiver on the left who ran right into the high safety rather than trying to avoid him or reroute towards the corner of the end zone where he would have been alone.
Jones might have been able to get the ball to Harris, but there was a lot of traffic between the two and it would have likely only been a short gain. With it being second down, you can make the case not to throw it there.
I just don't think there was an option in the end zone especially to who looked to be the intended primary receiver on that play.
There's just never going to be someone who comes uncovered down there in the red zone. Most often, the QB steps up and fires it into a small window, in an area where it can't be intercepted. This was a prime opportunity for that kind of chance.
You don't know that. Again the receiver on the left ran into the safety that was was actually backing up which basically stopped his route. No effort was made to avoid the defender.
But Jones couldn't step into the pocket. Owenu blocked his guy right in front of Jones. The defender fell to the ground, but it allowed him to break free from Owenu and pursue Jones. Watch the actual play and don't just throw out the standard "Jones should have stepped up into the pocket rather than run around". There was no place for him to step up because Owenu and the defender were right in front of him.
Could Jones have bought more time? Maybe I don't know how. But the pocket collapsed. There was no place for him to stay in the pocket and throw.
I can't see what is happening in the end zone, but I want him stepping up there as he has opportunity to do so, which will allow him to make that throw if it's there. Instead he gets happy feet and steps back right into the pass rush. I'm not saying he is mentally checked out either. Just one of the concerns that he is now doing his own thing given his experience this year.
Was he supposed to jump over the defender that Owenu threw to the ground at his feet. There was no reason to step up in the pocket until after Ownenu threw his guy to the ground. But at that point, Owenu has let go of his block and the defender was able to quickly get up and pursue Jones. Besides if Jones stepped up in the pocket behind Strange before that, Owenus would have thrown his defender right into Jones.
I just don't see where he could have stepped up on that play. I have watched it a dozen times now.
I can't see what is happening in the end zone, but I want him stepping up there as he has opportunity to do so, which will allow him to make that throw if it's there. Instead he gets happy feet and steps back right into the pass rush. I'm not saying he is mentally checked out either. Just one of the concerns that he is now doing his own thing given his experience this year.
Was he supposed to jump over the defender that Owenu threw to the ground at his feet. There was no reason to step up in the pocket until after Ownenu threw his guy to the ground. But at that point, Owenu has let go of his block and the defender was able to quickly get up and pursue Jones. Besides if Jones stepped up in the pocket behind Strange before that, Owenus would have thrown his defender right into Jones.
I just don't see where he could have stepped up on that play. I have watched it a dozen times now.
There's just never going to be someone who comes uncovered down there in the red zone. Most often, the QB steps up and fires it into a small window, in an area where it can't be intercepted. This was a prime opportunity for that kind of chance.
C'mon, even the best QBs will throw away the ball if no one is open on second and ten on the 12 yard line. But the primary receiver took himself out of the play. The other receivers were off screen. So it is unclear whether they were blanket covered.
Realistically once Murray went down on the first series it was game over. Patriots are the better team, and the only true advantage Arizona had was Murray and the passing game, so once he got replaced with career stiff Colt McCoy, Arizona had no chance. Predictably their offense became a comedy of errors. The amount of offensive penalties was truly embarrassing. And I've lost all respect for Kliff Kingsburg, he has no clue how to manage a game and his team is grossly undisciplined. Then there's Arizona's defense... woof.
Patriots defense mostly dominated like they should have against a Colt McCoy led offense and swiss cheese o-line. Josh Uche was a beast and he's really developing into a nice complimentary piece to Judon. If I'm nitpicking then the run defense was a bit leaky and fortunately Arizona had to abandon it after they fell behind by two scores. Also, elderly McCourty getting completely trucked by Colt McCoy was a bad look.
Offensively, nice contributions from the rookie RBs after Stevenson went down. Passing game took advantage of a putrid defense at times but still underperformed my expectations. Mac's numbers were pedestrian and overall he sitting on a very ugly 7 TDs and 8 INTs through week 14.
Ultimately, got the win they needed. Now they need to take care of business against the chokiest team in recent memory. Raiders have to completely deflated after that debacle against Baker Mayfield. Raiders defense is nearly as bad as Arizona's so this should be another game of nearly 30 points. Important game for the Patriots, and Belichick definitely doesn't want to lose to an inferior McDaniels coached team for the second time, so the team should be plenty motivated.
