PostGame Thread OFFICIAL POST GAME THREAD: Patriots Lose 34-0 to Saints

[Rob0729]

It's amazing how so many thought the coaches during the Brady era were "geniuses" and just about all of them have been putrid when they have moved on from Brady.

Brady in his prime would have made these receivers look better for sure, but there are fundamentals that have been missing with the receivers the last three years. Brady probably hid similar deficiencies back in the day, but that is what elite QBs do.

 

[Pape]

Not what the NFL thinks. It’s a talent issue across the whole offence. And Bill picked these groceries. From Sports Illustrated:

AFC executive: “Quite simply, they have no talent. And it doesn’t help that that’s at the quarterback spot as well.”

NFC executive: “The offensive line is bad, they can’t protect Mac, and Mac can’t move. They have no speed on offense at the skill positions. They used to have guys that could win one-on-one matchups; they don’t have any of those guys anymore. And defensively, they’re banged up. Losing (Matthew) Judon hurts. Losing the rookie corner (Christian Gonzalez) hurts, too, along with Marcus Jones.”

NFC coach: “They look extremely low on talent, to be honest. They have a pretty vanilla plan from what I can tell. An average-at-best QB only exacerbates those issues. They aren’t exactly world-beaters on defense now either — and losing Judon really hurt, and the two feed off each other. Defense gets a stop, offense goes three-and-out, defense back out there, basically no rest. … None of their skill players scare me. Hunter Henry is solid, not close to elite. OL looks sh–ty. Backs are slow. Receivers are overpaid free agents

I don't care what "they" think

I care about what I know and what I have seen.

I did not say that we are stocked with all pro talent. I am saying there is enough talent on this team to move the ball and score. It's not like we are playing the steel curtain week in week out. Its not like sherman, bailey & revis are roaming the secondary in every single game we've played...

What I have seen is a guy under center who is unmanned. What i have seen is we cannot score. What I have seen in a qb who repeatedly makes bad decisions.

 

[Boomer B]

I don't care what "they" think

I care about what I know and what I have seen.

I did not say that we are stocked with all pro talent. I am saying there is enough talent on this team to move the ball and score. It's not like we are playing the steel curtain week in week out. Its not like sherman, bailey & revis are roaming the secondary in every single game we've played...

What I have seen is a guy under center who is unmanned. What i have seen is we cannot score. What I have seen in a qb who repeatedly makes bad decisions.

So you only care about what “you know” and not what NFL Execs or Coaches say. Bottom line is our offensive talent stinks.

 

[archstanton543]

I demand a statement from Kraft today.
He owes it to the loyal fans.

Too busy with the situation in the Middle East.

 

[fightingirish595]

It’s a game of blocking and tackling and we’re very bad at blocking

 

[Love The Drake]

Too busy with the situation in the Middle East.

I haven’t kept up with Krafts involvement on this.
He also has a situation in the AFC East though.

 

[Pape]

So you only care about what “you know” and not what NFL Execs or Coaches say. Bottom line is our offensive talent stinks.

Better having my own opinion than relying on others to have my opinion for me.

 

[Boomer B]

Better having my own opinion than relying on others to have my opinion for me.

Sure, but discounting what people in the league think is somewhat obtuse.

Anyways, I guess we can agree to disagree.

 

[FCB02062]

when the Patriots radio play by play announcer, the Patriots radio color analyst, and the local in studio sports television (former defensive player) Patriots analyst say the defensive players AND defense coaches quit yesterday...I'm going to take their word for it.

 

[FCB02062]

 

[SVN]

 

[SVN]

We can go on and on about the lack of talent and roster construction. I just want to know what happened in the first 3 games and what went south in 10 mins in dallas. This is not the same team which played the first 3 weeks. Dont give saints defense and oline and all that. They played the jets and eagles .
They werent as terrible in first 2 weeks against better competition

 

[Fatmancryin]

We can go on and on about the lack of talent and roster construction. I just want to know what happened in the first 3 games and what went south in 10 mins in dallas. This is not the same team which played the first 3 weeks. Dont give saints defense and oline and all that. They played the jets and eagles .
They werent as terrible in first 2 weeks against better competition

The real Mac Jones happened.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

Tom brady in his prime couldn't rescue this team, he wouldn't have time to throw the ball

We probably beat the eagles with him but agree with the point

 

[FCB02062]

Bill built this dumpster fire of a roster

 

[SVN]

The real Mac Jones happened.

So it took 3 yrs for him to play tis badly and suddenly zach wilson after being crap for 3 yrs snd people clamoring for his head is suddenly better?

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

great qbs can make a poor oline look better than they are. he'd get it done with this group.

Maybe not get it done but we’d be better than 1-4

 

[mgteich]

Agreed. The OL failures are on Bill, BOB and Adrian Klemm, but mostly on Bill because several OLmen are nowhere near league average players. Why did he assemble a ****show in front of a QB who can‘t create plays, who needs a good supporting cast to thrive?

Say what you will.

Yes, Bill should have secured a RT. Yes, after a couple of injuries, Bill should have traded a 2nd or 3rd for an OT.
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That being said, all of these OL when healthy are "near league average players"
BROWN
STRANGE
ANDREWS
ONWENU
(SOW) as a rookie prospect

 

[Love The Drake]

So it took 3 yrs for him to play tis badly and suddenly zach wilson after being crap for 3 yrs snd people clamoring for his head is suddenly better?

Sounds about right.

 

[grux]

After watching some of the pathetic O-Line play from yesterday, I would bench Trent Brown ASAP. How can you field a player who doesn't even try to do his job and isn't motivated to play well for his next contract?