Official Giants @ Pats postgame thread

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

Brady to Gronk on 4th down was reminiscent of Bledsoe to Coates on 4th down in '96.

Unfortunately, the final finish was reminiscent of another Pats/Giants game

It's sad the Pats D couldn't hold late. They played such a good game for 3 quarters and kept them in the game to allow the Pats to overcome 4 turnovers and take a dramatic late lead.

Arrington had good positioning on the PI and TD, but simply didn't turn around both times. Reminded me of McCourty early last year before he started looking for the ball and had that great season. Can Arrington "get it" like McCourty did?

Sergio Brown...oof!

Pats have 3 games this year with 4 turnovers. They are 1-2 and a hair from 0-3...and 3-0. And it was the *lack* of turnovers vs. Pittsburgh that kept them in an otherwise lopsided affair. Captain Obvious states that turnovers are huge, but these games have been a reminder of how they help games get away (or lack of them help keep you in the hunt).

I think they have a good chance vs. NY next Sunday night. They should be able to run the ball on that Jets front that is not as good as years past. On D, they should be able to keep the running game and Sanchez in check. As long as they don't let Dustin Keller kill them underneath, I cannot see the Jets keeping sustained drives without shooting themselves in the foot and/or having to settle for FGs instead of TDs.

Regards,
Chris

 

[ATippett56]

It says a lot that it took three eff-ups by two backups to lose despite how bad the offense was playing. The Giants did nothing on that last drive except picking on White and Brown. If those two aren't forced into action, the Pats win this and you have to work harder to think of something to complain about.

I remember the days when the New England Patriots backup cornerbacks were Asante Samuel and Randall Gay with wide receiver Troy Brown playing nickel.

 

[Sciz]

Re: Should our defense be riding in the short bus?

If you don't see it, I suggest you open your eyes.

Do you think Belichick would have run a soft zone defense against the
Rams in 2001, or against the Colts in 2003, or 2004?

Why don't we scheme anymore?
What we do today is not what we did in years past.

Is it the success of our defense of 2011 (#32 "last" YPG in 2011 prior to
this week) ?

Guess you didn't watch the game.

This^^^^^^

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

It says that a mediocre team (Giants) was missing its #1 WR, its #1 RB and its starting center, and was still able to march down the field and beat the Patriots defense.

If the Giants are a mediocre team at 6-2 then what does that make the 5-3 Patriots?

The Giants lost to the Seahawks but then again New Orleans lost to the Rams last week and Green Bay held on for dear life against Minnesota so if you are basing mediocrity on lousy games against bad teams then the Saints and Packers are mediocre as well

I think the Giants go to SF and win next week,they are a pretty darn good team,not mediocre and Eli is playing at a level of his brother this year IMO.

You want a Mediocre team?,as of right now you and I are a fan of one

 

[Sciz]

It says that a mediocre team (Giants) was missing its #1 WR, its #1 RB and its starting center, and was still able to march down the field and beat the Patriots defense.

Other than the last drive (which was horrendous) and the 1-play TD drive, the defense gave up 10 points. It was one play (whatever turnover it was that set up the short TD) away from that last drive not even mattering. If the offense had showed up to play at all, that game wouldn't have even been close, despite the one bad drive at the end.

 

[ATippett56]

Yes, he is. Watch where Brady throws the ball and where Ocho is.

ZERO catches in 3 games.



It says that 6 million bucks will get you activated.

Big bucks didn't stop Leigh Bodden from the chopping block!

 

[cupofjoe1962]

Re: Should our defense be riding in the short bus?

This^^^^^^

I was at the game ! I have been there for 99% if the games since 1979.
I watched the vanilla defense give up 2 touchdowns in the last 3 minutes
of the game...

What about you.... Did you see the game in Iowa?
Field of dreams?

 

[Deus Irae]

Other than the last drive (which was horrendous) and the 1-play TD drive, the defense gave up 10 points. It was one play (whatever turnover it was that set up the short TD) away from that last drive not even mattering. If the offense had showed up to play at all, that game wouldn't have even been close, despite the one bad drive at the end.

Yes, other than losing, the Patriots won. Let's whitewash it all

 

[ATippett56]

If the offense had showed up to play at all, that game wouldn't have even been close, despite the one bad drive at the end.

If it wasn't for Tom Brady, the New England Patriots would be dueling the Indianapolis Colts for the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.

 

[cupofjoe1962]

If it wasn't for Tom Brady, the New England Patriots would be dueling the Indianapolis Colts for the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.

Sad.... but probably true !

 

[Sciz]

Yes, other than losing, the Patriots won. Let's whitewash it all

Arguing with you is like arguing with a wall.

 

[Sciz]

Re: Should our defense be riding in the short bus?

I was at the game ! I have been there for 99% if the games since 1979.
I watched the vanilla defense give up 2 touchdowns in the last 3 minutes
of the game...

Oh, now we're talking. The last two minutes, then yes. You know what soft zone coverage does? It prevents big plays. Well, it does when you aren't forced to play your 6th LB and your 4th safety.

 

[Sciz]

If it wasn't for Tom Brady, the New England Patriots would be dueling the Indianapolis Colts for the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.

I don't know about that. The average QB wouldn't have thrown 4 picks against the Bills or had 3 turnovers today.

 

[ATippett56]

I don't know about that. The average QB wouldn't have thrown 4 picks against the Bills or had 3 turnovers today.

Lest you forgot, Tom Brady was the 2010-11 NFL MVP!

 

[DanJMartin12]

Overall Horse Crap Performance. It's hard to decide who's to more to blame. Yah the D contained a Giants team missing it's 2 best weapons, but they let that same team drive the field twice when it counted, and with less than a minute and a half for the last drive. On the other side, yah the offense put up 17 points in the 4th with a comeback drive, but had they decided to show up for the previous 3 quarters they wouldn't have needed a comeback drive. It's easier just to say They Sucked and will most likely loose next week.

 

[Deus Irae]

Arguing with you is like arguing with a wall.

Don't make stupid arguments. It's really that easy. It's a 60 minute game. The defense wet itself when it had the chance to salvage the win.

 

[Sciz]

Lest you forgot, Tom Brady was the 2010-11 NFL MVP!

And if he were playing at the level he was over the last 8 games last year this year, the Pats would be 8-0. But losing by 3 after 4 Brady turnovers and losing by 4 after 3 Brady turnovers means he's not carrying the team on his back.

 

[ATippett56]

And if he were playing at the level he was over the last 8 games last year this year, the Pats would be 8-0. But losing by 3 after 4 Brady turnovers and losing by 4 after 3 Brady turnovers means he's not carrying the team on his back.

"He's not carrying the team on his back" which has been been the problem for the New England Patriots last season and this season.

 

[Sciz]

"He's not carrying the team on his back" which has been been the problem for the New England Patriots last season and this season.

Yeah. They're losing by one score in games where Brady plays horrendously (at least statistically, because his actual play wasn't bad against Buffalo). That means that it's a very winnable game if he only throws 3 picks instead of 4 or 1 instead of 2 and a fumble. This isn't like it has been, where he had to throw for 400 yards and 3 TDs with no turnovers for them to have a chance.

 

[patsfan-1982]

Re: Should our defense be riding in the short bus?

Oh, now we're talking. The last two minutes, then yes. You know what soft zone coverage does? It prevents big plays. Well, it does when you aren't forced to play your 6th LB and your 4th safety.

that argument would work if we did not see them do the same thing vs the bills they had Mayo Fletcher and bodden and still give up 80+ yards in under a min