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This is a complete dumpster fire, this team is going to be picking in the top 10 of the draft.


Well, no....you know BB will trade down. I don;t think TB would help this offense.....he would be throwing it into the ground.
 
Antoine Winfield JR. continues to make plays and is the lone bright spot in the Bucs secondary. Meanwhile, we have the legend of Kyle Dugger drafted ahead of him.
CB Jamel Dean has actually been playing very well for TB..
 
Brady wasn't a god in 01, 03, and '04. There's half the rings.

I mean, come on.
He was a first year starter and was asked to go lead a game winner against one of the greatest teams of all time. He bailed out our defense vs the Panthers. He was every bit as important as the offense in 2004.

He was the X factor whether you like it or not
 
Just gut the team and rebuild, the worst thing you can be in the NFL is 7-9.
 
I guess BB must be happy to help out Shanhan/JG today
 
I'm glad you are aware of that... :rolleyes:

I meant that this is the worst Patriots team since that year...
Wouldn't it more fair to say this team is worse than the 2000 team?
 
Stidham throws picks every third passes.
 
this team gets pushed around on both sides of the ball...injuries on the O line a contributing factor but the zero sum at TE, the lack of threatening receivers and some of the slowest LB's in the league indicates a bad year...as in 5=11 or even 4-12
Not sure they’ll be favorites in any games aside from the Jets games, maybe Texans and Chargers.
 
The only way this team had any chance of finishing 500 was if the defense was as good as it was last year.

Right now they're looking at a four or five win season. That's assuming they can beat the Jets twice.
 
Only bill thought it was time to move on.

Not everyone is perfect.

He will eventually be right, one way or another. Question is- when?
 
And he didn't want to intervene in the Brady negotiations and basically allowed Bill to let him walk...Brady wouldn't look great in this offense but he would be a lot better than the crap we have out there...
As the team is currently put together I am still happy Brady isn't here this year.
 
When Gunner goes back there, I think of this comic I read when I was a kid.

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Not sure they’ll be favorites in any games aside from the Jets games, maybe Texans and Chargers.
Jets have a better offense than we do right now.
 
He isn't perfect, and he's no doubt well past his prime. But he's night and day different with some talent on offense around him. Bill has spent years slowly murdering the Pats offense. Now without a capable QB, we all get to see just how bad it really is

All I know was 2 years ago we beat the Rams in the Super Bowl and nobody was complaining about coaching, drafting etc....Two years, it's not like it's been 20 years.
 
Wouldn't it more fair to say this team is worse than the 2000 team?

Possibly...it's either the 2000 team or this one. At least in 2000 there were really good pieces that helped for a super bowl run. This team has 1 star player on defense and no skill players on offense.
 
Just start Stidham next weekend. Who cares. Literally can’t be any worse and you’ll see what he has with 1st team reps.
 
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