PATRIOTS NEWS Official: Eliot Wolf named EVP of Player Personnel

[Love The Drake]

Sounds like they accepted the argument that Kraft made the picks. Phew. I figured the league would take any opportunity to dock us.

Wait til the investigation from the wells report.

 

[Vindicate]

I think the fact that Wolf has the control over the roster in totality over Mayo tells me that the Krafts have more faith in Wolf currently - which does make sense since Mayo is still very green.

Huh. For some reason this doesn't sit well with me, even if just off intuition. Although I'm used to the polar opposite.

 

[Triumph]

That means Jonathan is the GM.

 

[Love The Drake]

That means Jonathan is the GM.

This might be more of a reality than we would think.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

He doesn’t control what ingredients he gets but he’s in charge of cooking the dish etc.

I think I heard that before
If they want you to cook the dinner, at least they ought to let you shop for some of the groceries.”

 

[VJCPatriot]

The worst kept secret in New England.

All Wolf had to do was not blow the draft and the position would be his.

Well at least it's official now!

Was it the right choice? We'll know in a couple of years.

 

[tuckeverlasting]

I think I heard that before
If they want you to cook the dinner, at least they ought to let you shop for some of the groceries.”

i always found that quote to be funny and ironic at the same time. parcells looked like he shopped for plenty of groceries.

 

[Ross12]

I think I heard that before
If they want you to cook the dinner, at least they ought to let you shop for some of the groceries.”

Problem is that a coach is more focused on winning this year, the front office is more focused on the long term condition of the roster. A coach may prioritize a veteran with one good year left over a very young player who hasn’t had much opportunity to prove himself yet but has flashed and there’s reason to believe he will develop. For this year, yes the veteran will be better, but long-term your roster will be shorthanded after that. So it makes sense to leave these decisions with 1 person and then have the coach focus on doing his best to win with who he has - and I’m sure he gets lots of opportunity to give input in their “collaborative environment”.

If the team struggles and it’s clearly due to a talent deficiency, that will be blame laid more on Wolf than Mayo. If you let one guy make the initial decisions but then let the other guy cut it down to 53 then you end up with a lot of finger pointing. “He didn’t get me good players”, “I did but he cut them before they developed” etc.

 

[IcyPatriot]

How many here ... were you the owner of the Patriots ...
give total control to any front office employee?
It is not just about wins and losses ... owners also need to please sponsors.

Not discussed much here ... the sponsors definitely put pressure on the Krafts the last 3 or so years.

I do not see this as a problem like some here ...
Kraft is giving the front office and coach freedom to do their job.
However now the leash is shorter ... like I said ... how many here would own differently?

The old way of doing things is mostly over in the league ... the dollars/sponsors and team value outweigh all else.
It's a business ... right down to players on the practice squad ... would you the owner be any different?
Kraft is not picking the groceries or coaching the team ... he is just making sure all that they answer to him and Jonathan.

As they should ...

 

[scott99]

I like that Wolf is now officially in charge. I think he did an excellent job in resigning our key free agents (I think Belichick would’ve let most of them go), not the greatest job signing outside free agents, especially at the LT position, but on a whole, I think he did a good job in free agency. Getting Duggar, Onwenu and Uche signed, he did a great job. Getting Barmore extended, great job. I think signing Brissett was a very good move, because it may give our new franchise QB time to sit and learn.

I think he did a great job with the draft. QB, WR & Oline were our biggest needs, and he drafted 2 of each. I like all of those picks.

On a whole, I feel good about our future with him in charge. Next offseason and draft will be super important again, should have a good amount of cap space. And despite the good job I think he’s done, this is still a rebuilding team, so I expect a top 10 pick again. Hopefully he snags another great talent in the 1st round.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Great news. I really like the way Wolf handled free agency and the draft, he’s looking at the big picture and making his moves based on the long term, instead of trying to cobble together something to win immediately. And the timing in that regard should work out well for them. If they hit on Maye then they should start ascending in 25’, and by then the Jets will once again be looking for a QB, and the Fish and Bills salary cap troubles will be getting even worse. Unlike this year I think we will see them spend significantly in a stronger free agent class, and add more offense in the next Draft, after which their overall roster should be ready to take off.

 

[1960Pats]

i always found that quote to be funny and ironic at the same time. parcells looked like he shopped for plenty of groceries.

Tuna Crap liked to complain that he didn't get to make the draft picks but he had no problem taking credit for the good picks that were made.

 

[1960Pats]

How many here ... were you the owner of the Patriots ...
give total control to any front office employee?
It is not just about wins and losses ... owners also need to please sponsors.

Not discussed much here ... the sponsors definitely put pressure on the Krafts the last 3 or so years.

I do not see this as a problem like some here ...
Kraft is giving the front office and coach freedom to do their job.
However now the leash is shorter ... like I said ... how many here would own differently?

The old way of doing things is mostly over in the league ... the dollars/sponsors and team value outweigh all else.
It's a business ... right down to players on the practice squad ... would you the owner be any different?
Kraft is not picking the groceries or coaching the team ... he is just making sure all that they answer to him and Jonathan.

As they should ...

If I were an owner I'd let the football people I hired make the football decisions, just like every successful team does.

The modern way is to squeeze every last penny out of the fans while meddling with the football operation. If a current owner (including Kraft) thinks he should make a 15% profit and he only makes 10% he'd look at that as a 5% loss, not a 10% gain.

Does any of the money generated by the gambling sites go to the teams and if it does do the players see any of that?

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

Problem is that a coach is more focused on winning this year, the front office is more focused on the long term condition of the roster. A coach may prioritize a veteran with one good year left over a very young player who hasn’t had much opportunity to prove himself yet but has flashed and there’s reason to believe he will develop. For this year, yes the veteran will be better, but long-term your roster will be shorthanded after that. So it makes sense to leave these decisions with 1 person and then have the coach focus on doing his best to win with who he has - and I’m sure he gets lots of opportunity to give input in their “collaborative environment”.

If the team struggles and it’s clearly due to a talent deficiency, that will be blame laid more on Wolf than Mayo. If you let one guy make the initial decisions but then let the other guy cut it down to 53 then you end up with a lot of finger pointing. “He didn’t get me good players”, “I did but he cut them before they developed” etc.

Absolutely
Whomever picks the players. Should set the roster with help from the coach.
His credibility and career depend on a team he put together
He also needs a coach that best represents those players. System wise and personality

 

[Triumph]

How many here ... were you the owner of the Patriots ...
give total control to any front office employee?
It is not just about wins and losses ... owners also need to please sponsors.

Not discussed much here ... the sponsors definitely put pressure on the Krafts the last 3 or so years.

I do not see this as a problem like some here ...
Kraft is giving the front office and coach freedom to do their job.
However now the leash is shorter ... like I said ... how many here would own differently?

The old way of doing things is mostly over in the league ... the dollars/sponsors and team value outweigh all else.
It's a business ... right down to players on the practice squad ... would you the owner be any different?
Kraft is not picking the groceries or coaching the team ... he is just making sure all that they answer to him and Jonathan.

As they should ...

Brett Veach is GM of the Chiefs
Howie Roseman is GM of the Eagles
Brandon Beane is GM of the Bills
Omar Kahn is GM of the Steelers
John Lynch is GM of the 49ers

There is nothing wrong with accountability

Jerry Jones is GM of the Cowboys
Bob Kraft is GM of the Patriots.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

Lamar L Jackson

 

[Ross12]

Great news. I really like the way Wolf handled free agency and the draft, he’s looking at the big picture and making his moves based on the long term, instead of trying to cobble together something to win immediately. And the timing in that regard should work out well for them. If they hit on Maye then they should start ascending in 25’, and by then the Jets will once again be looking for a QB, and the Fish and Bills salary cap troubles will be getting even worse. Unlike this year I think we will see them spend significantly in a stronger free agent class, and add more offense in the next Draft, after which their overall roster should be ready to take off.

Agreed, I have been saying the same for a while now. The rest of the division is going to head toward tougher times after this year, although Buffalo accelerated that to some extent by moving Diggs early. NE has held much of its cash in reserves, and next year’s free agent class will be stronger than this year’s. Year 2 of a QB is when you want to start throwing some resources behind him. If all goes according to plan they may be able to take the division in 2025 or at least have a healthy chance of a playoff berth, and their overall roster strength will continue to improve throughout Maye’s rookie deal.

 

[State]

You remember the what-ifs forever. Just missing out on murderer Ray Lewis. This is rather epic. Don’t think the lesson will be lost on Eliot.

 

[State]

Agreed, I have been saying the same for a while now. The rest of the division is going to head toward tougher times after this year, although Buffalo accelerated that to some extent by moving Diggs early. NE has held much of its cash in reserves, and next year’s free agent class will be stronger than this year’s. Year 2 of a QB is when you want to start throwing some resources behind him. If all goes according to plan they may be able to take the division in 2025 or at least have a healthy chance of a playoff berth, and their overall roster strength will continue to improve throughout Maye’s rookie deal.

By resources you mean drafting a LT next year, don’t you?

 

[Ross12]

By resources you mean drafting a LT next year, didn’t you?

I mean in general, whether that is line help or a weapons upgrade. Whatever the roster needs at that time, juice it.