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[The Gr8est]

Wonder if they are planing on trading 4?

I saw a mock the other day where the drafters rejected the Rats as a trade down candidate because it was the Rats.

Why?

Is there a QB in this draft who we should be afraid of ending up in NY?

Could be a win-win for us.

 

[Huckleberry1]

If I understand some of the posters correctly, only 3 players are worthy of the top 5 draft slots.

THEREFORE, no team should be willing to move up to 4 from their pick at 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 or 9 or 10.
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Obviously, the 4th pick won't be worth anywhere near as much as last year.

If a mythical 5 studs were picked at 4-8 and we were #9, then surely there would be teams wanting to move up to 9 to get the player that they want.

It is no different at 4. Teams from 5 to say 10 all have players that they want. As in every year, what matters is how much they want their player. Those picking 5-7 might want to move up to 4 so they don't lose out on their targeted player, even if the players from 4-10 are of almost the same value.

THE ISSUE is that much less will be offered to move up from 5-10 to 4 than in most years. If Carter and Hunter are gone, perhaps we have the next 6 at an equal BPA. In that case, we might even take a 3rd or 4th to move down to get a BPA about the same as we would get at 4.
There is no advantage to staying at 4 if we consider those at 5,6,7,8,9 and 10 to be of equal value.

As far as other teams, I refuse to believe that there are no players that those in 5-10 don't want enough to give up a 2nd or 3rd or even a 4th.

Once again, I would never take less than a 2nd for the 4th pick. If that means they need to stay put and pick then so be it. You don’t just give away the 4th pick in the draft, and that’s what taking a 3rd amounts to.

 

[signbabybrady]

If I understand some of the posters correctly, only 3 players are worthy of the top 5 draft slots.

THEREFORE, no team should be willing to move up to 4 from their pick at 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 or 9 or 10.
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What do I have wrong?
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Obviously, the 4th pick won't be worth anywhere near as much as last year.

If a mythical 5 studs were picked at 4-8 and we were #9, then surely there would be teams wanting to move up to 9 to get the player that they want.

It is no different at 4. Teams from 5 to say 10 all have players that they want. As in every year, what matters is how much they want their player. Those picking 5-7 might want to move up to 4 so they don't lose out on their targeted player, even if the players from 4-10 are of almost the same value.

THE ISSUE is that much less will be offered to move up from 5-10 to 4 than in most years. If Carter and Hunter are gone, perhaps we have the next 6 at an equal BPA. In that case, we might even take a 3rd or 4th to move down to get a BPA about the same as we would get at 4.
There is no advantage to staying at 4 if we consider those at 5,6,7,8,9 and 10 to be of equal value.

As far as other teams, I refuse to believe that there are no players that those in 5-10 don't want enough to give up a 2nd or 3rd or even a 4th.

This is too rational for Patsfans.

My hope is that we have one player that we have conviction is the best bet for us so much so that those next 5-10 teams don't matter.

 

[DaBruinz]

You don't think Thuney wanted to stay here? I thought it was just about money.

If you're going to comment, you should make sure you understand what was being stated. My statement had nothing to do with Thuney's contract negotiations prior to the 2020 season. It had to do with his trade.

 

[DaBruinz]

Elliss doesn't suck. You're evaluations skills do.

Elliss played very well last season and improved as the season went along.

 

[DaBruinz]

Pats still sitting on $80M cap space without having made a single significant move on offense. Meanwhile, homers are balking at every single WR or OT that becomes available or moves from one team to another. It's becoming hilarious at this point.

NFL Salary Cap Space | Over The Cap

NFL salary cap space estimates for all 32 teams

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Homers are balking at signing players that won't actually upgrade the offense. People like you are tripping over yourself to sign ANYONE regardless of whether they're an improvement. That's what's hilarious.

 

[DaBruinz]

We signed one.. Kyrsis from Arizona...

Khyiris. He is not Barmore insurance. He's a 1-Gap NT to replace Ekuale.

 

[signbabybrady]

Khyiris. He is not Barmore insurance. He's a 1-Gap NT to replace Ekuale.

What's a 1 gap nose tackle? I thought nose tackles line up over the center not over a gap?

 

[Real fan 02]

What's a 1 gap nose tackle? I thought nose tackles line up over the center not over a gap?

SBB do what I do and refer help to him lol

 

[RobertWeathers]

What's a 1 gap nose tackle? I thought nose tackles line up over the center not over a gap?

A NT can line up between C and LG or C and RG (A gaps). Each of those is a "1" gap.

0 Gap is directly over center. In theory is close to being a 2 gap NT as they are managing the gaps between the C/RG or C/LG.

 

[signbabybrady]

A NT can line up between C and LG or C and RG (A gaps). Each of those is a "1" gap.

0 Gap is directly over center. In theory is close to being a 2 gap NT as they are managing the gaps between the C/RG or C/LG.

Isn't that a DT then though? And you'd probably want 2 in order to cover each side?

 

[dliverey44]

Yep around there. His dad was a helluva player. Good genetics.

It has been reported that he has been working with Scar, I wonder if that would sway any teams to take him the 2nd. He has played both sides and might be valued more highly than media experts think.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Isn't that a DT then though? And you'd probably want 2 in order to cover each side?

Sometimes guys like Wilfork lined up over the C. In that situation he is being a true NT

Sometimes he lined up between C and G playing 1 gap. That could be interpreted as playing DT

Sometimes he lined up directly over the G playing 2 gap. That could be interpreted as playing DT

Sometimes you'll have 2 DTs playing A gap.

If you can get past this guys's voice it does a good job of explaining techniques, gaps and positions.

 

[dliverey44]

Isn't that a DT then though? And you'd probably want 2 in order to cover each side?

Yes is a DT that is playing the Nose tackle spot.

 

[Love The Drake]

Report: Pittsburgh Steelers expect Aaron Rodgers to meet with New York Giants

The Pittsburgh Steelers reportedly expect veteran QB Aaron Rodgers to have a meeting with the New York Giants.

giantswire.usatoday.com

 

[dliverey44]

What's a 1 gap nose tackle? I thought nose tackles line up over the center not over a gap?

A 1 gap NT could reference that gap that he pass rushes into. Whereas our old NTs were 2gappers meaning that they tried to control the flow of movement through Both A gaps. So a 1 gap NT would be a person that is responsible for just one A gap and he will probably be a penetrator. I would assume, could be wrong though.

 

[Lansdowne]

Report: Pittsburgh Steelers expect Aaron Rodgers to meet with New York Giants

The Pittsburgh Steelers reportedly expect veteran QB Aaron Rodgers to have a meeting with the New York Giants.

giantswire.usatoday.com

Yikes... if the Giants end up with Rodgers then they are not spending their 3rd overall pick on a QB to be their third string guy behind Rodgers and Winston. Would basically need to hope the Browns take Sanders at that point.

 

[Love The Drake]

Yikes... if the Giants end up with Rodgers then they are not spending their 3rd overall pick on a QB to be their third string guy behind Rodgers and Winston. Would basically need to hope the Browns take Sanders at that point.

Could be disastrous for us.

 

[Steve102]

Could be disastrous for us.

Pump the brakes on the hyperbole. You still get a day 1 starter at #4. If the Giants sign Lily's Honey, (i need a trademark or copywrite icon @Ian) then you sit there at #4 and wait to see if the phone rings for Sanders? No buyers? Make the pick.

 

[Steve102]