NFL Trade Deadline Rumors, including Bourne and Agholar

[Love The Drake]

Chiefs have been talking to the Jags regarding Josh Allen.

 

[BritPat]

Yes but the Giants traded down from the 11th spot

So the second point stands. And you have to consider the draft haul. Just checked it out and it was this year's first and fourth and last year's fifth.

You can't call it a bad pick based on what Parsons was meant to be. It's just hindsight.

 

[BritPat]

Chiefs have been talking to the Jags regarding Josh Allen.

The arms race begins.....

 

[Love The Drake]

I wouldn’t mind spending the

The arms race begins.....

That’s not a move I mind making he’s still very young and he’s a franchise kind of player.
I’d happily give a first for him knowing how our first round picks have been a mixed bag to say the least.

 

[long distance]

What do you think we could get for Wynn? Every team in the league is looking for O-line help, and seeing him play at RT this year, I would expect if any team does trade for him, they would switch him back to LT, although, I don't think he was an All pro there either.

Depending on what each party prioritises - cap or pick.
If Pats want to unload most of the cap then its going to be the swap of day 3 picks.
If they are willing to eat most of the cap then 5th maybe. (much safer bet Quinn was dealt for 4th)
Id go for the first.

 

[PatsFan2]

I wouldn’t mind spending the

That’s not a move I mind making he’s still very young and he’s a franchise kind of player.
I’d happily give a first for him knowing how our first round picks have been a mixed bag to say the least.

Great point and the beat goes on we can get any Big time player right now. I'd rather a now player than gambling on the Draft which is not an exact science.

 

[Grogan14]

Past should want to unload cap and pick up future draft picks. They do not have a franchise QB and are not in a clear position to be competitive for AFC championship for this year or next. They will be fortunate to beat out Jets for third place in division,

I also think that if MAC continues to regress the rest of this year, Kraft will have to consider asking BB to resign...primarily due to mismanaging the QB coaching situation.

The rebuild has taken a serious step backward this year (whether it's coaching, talent or both) and perhaps even the worse sin is that they have NO marketable playmakers on their roster. For the Bears game last week, ABC had to highlight BB as they have no exciting players to market their team on.

Ultimately its a business and if you are under 500, in last place and have no marketable players on the roster the organization will not reach its potential from a marketing standpoint.
The only way to get dynamic exciting playmakers who will stick around for a while is the draft. They do not need high priced veterans on last year or two of their contract.
Organizations that are not willing to change and innovate will not thrive in the current NFL environment (that includes moving on from BB next year if last 10 games they stay at 500 or below)

Draft picks and cap....focus BB

 

[PatsFan2]

Craziest thing I’ve seen in this thread… Brandin Cooks is still in his 20’s. Feels like that dudes been around forever.

Cost us a SB with his attempted hurdle with his vertical that wasn't that good to begin with.

 

[Stu Pidassle]

Depending on what each party prioritises - cap or pick.
If Pats want to unload most of the cap then its going to be the swap of day 3 picks.
If they are willing to eat most of the cap then 5th maybe. (much safer bet Quinn was dealt for 4th)
Id go for the first.

You are spot on with this. Selling teams are getting more by retaining the cap hit so that buyers can fit the players onto their roster without disruption in the short term. If it is a straight sell off, I would rather have the team maximize for the future by helping with cap hit and getting more return.

 

[PatsFan2]

Past should want to unload cap and pick up future draft picks. They do not have a franchise QB and are not in a clear position to be competitive for AFC championship for this year or next. They will be fortunate to beat out Jets for third place in division,

I also think that if MAC continues to regress the rest of this year, Kraft will have to consider asking BB to resign...primarily due to mismanaging the QB coaching situation.

The rebuild has taken a serious step backward this year (whether it's coaching, talent or both) and perhaps even the worse sin is that they have NO marketable playmakers on their roster. For the Bears game last week, ABC had to highlight BB as they have no exciting players to market their team on.

Ultimately its a business and if you are under 500, in last place and have no marketable players on the roster the organization will not reach its potential from a marketing standpoint.
The only way to get dynamic exciting playmakers who will stick around for a while is the draft. They do not need high priced veterans on last year or two of their contract.
Organizations that are not willing to change and innovate will not thrive in the current NFL environment (that includes moving on from BB next year if last 10 games they stay at 500 or below)

Draft picks and cap....focus BB

That's very telling but you know the IBBWT clan would disagree.

 

[PowerRunRevival]

Past should want to unload cap and pick up future draft picks. They do not have a franchise QB and are not in a clear position to be competitive for AFC championship for this year or next. They will be fortunate to beat out Jets for third place in division,

I also think that if MAC continues to regress the rest of this year, Kraft will have to consider asking BB to resign...primarily due to mismanaging the QB coaching situation.

The rebuild has taken a serious step backward this year (whether it's coaching, talent or both) and perhaps even the worse sin is that they have NO marketable playmakers on their roster. For the Bears game last week, ABC had to highlight BB as they have no exciting players to market their team on.

Ultimately its a business and if you are under 500, in last place and have no marketable players on the roster the organization will not reach its potential from a marketing standpoint.
The only way to get dynamic exciting playmakers who will stick around for a while is the draft. They do not need high priced veterans on last year or two of their contract.
Organizations that are not willing to change and innovate will not thrive in the current NFL environment (that includes moving on from BB next year if last 10 games they stay at 500 or below)

Draft picks and cap....focus BB

This is interesting to me because I agree that they should unload cap and pick up future draft picks, however for the opposite reasoning.

I do think the Pats are in a good spot at QB. QBs often take time to develop and for me it's too early to declare who will are won't be a franchise QB in the future. I feel good that one of Mac or Zappe will make a good NFL QB.

I'm not sure I agree about the rebuild taking a step backwards. They look like they will win less games than last year, but took a step further in terms of bringing in young talent. I think the Pats took a step forward in the rebuild by adding two consecutive quality draft classes after having a long stretch of poor ones. I want to trade for more picks to continue the development of the team through the draft.

I don't agree with wanting Belichick to leave and I do think this team is headed in the right direction long term.

 

[KDPPatsfan85]

The truth is, in my opinion, I think its time to move on from BB. He has a DC as an OC, an ST coordinator as a QB coach. Players are starting to speak up. Bourne is in Patricia's doghouse bc he was complaining about the new offensive scheme. BB still in his old ways, I think we need to move on and completely rebuild this team.

That's very telling but you know the IBBWT clan would disagree.

 

[PatsFan2]

This is interesting to me because I agree that they should unload cap and pick up future draft picks, however for the opposite reasoning.

I do think the Pats are in a good spot at QB. QBs often take time to develop and for me it's too early to declare who will are won't be a franchise QB in the future. I feel good that one of Mac or Zappe will make a good NFL QB.

I'm not sure I agree about the rebuild taking a step backwards. They look like they will win less games than last year, but took a step further in terms of bringing in young talent. I think the Pats took a step forward in the rebuild by adding two consecutive quality draft classes after having a long stretch of poor ones. I want to trade for more picks to continue the development of the team through the draft.

I don't agree with wanting Belichick to leave and I do think this team is headed in the right direction long term.

IF Mac Finishes the season looking like QB Josh Rosen a few years back he would be considered a Bust! And the rebuild would take more than a few steps back Josh Allen is only 26 not even in his prime he looks like a generation talent.

 

[jah]

Cost us a SB with his attempted hurdle with his vertical that wasn't that good to begin with.

It certainly had nothing to do with giving up 41 points.

 

[venecol]

It certainly had nothing to do with giving up 41 points.

Malcolm Butler benching cost us that SB. I'll never forgive Patricia for doing that. Looks like he's up to his old tricks again with Bourne. Dude is an arrogant pr*ck. Now he's screwing up Mac. He needs to be sent to Mars on a rocket ship.

 

[Love The Drake]

Cost us a SB with his attempted hurdle his vertical jump that wasn't good to begin with.

When he did that I swear on everything I turned to my friends and said he’s getting traded in the off-season.

It’s like he thought back to his high school days and

IF Mac Finishes the season looking like QB Josh Rosen a few years back he would be considered a Bust! And the rebuild would take more than a few steps back Josh Allen is only 26 not even in his prime he looks like a generation talent.

Where will we find the next QB of the Pats.
I think Zappe has a chance.
My boy who went to Alabama said Mac is softer than silk pajamas.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Malcolm Butler benching cost us that SB. I'll never forgive Patricia for doing that. Looks like he's up to his old tricks again with Bourne. Dude is an arrogant pr*ck. Now he's screwing up Mac. He needs to be sent to Mars on a rocket ship.

The space shuttle had a maximum payload allowance of 50,000lbs.

Jabba the Matt might exceed that.

 

[signbabybrady]

Malcolm Butler benching cost us that SB. I'll never forgive Patricia for doing that. Looks like he's up to his old tricks again with Bourne. Dude is an arrogant pr*ck. Now he's screwing up Mac. He needs to be sent to Mars on a rocket ship.

How do you make such a damning conclusion with so little facts?

I mean there were rumors Matty P was involved in something with Butler. But there are also rumors it was Stephen. Other rumors too. But even if we assume Matty P was involved did I miss where punishment was his choice and not Bills?

I really hope you never end up a juror at my trial

 

[venecol]

How do you make such a damning conclusion with so little facts?

I mean there were rumors Matty P was involved in something with Butler. But there are also rumors it was Stephen. Other rumors too. But even if we assume Matty P was involved did I miss where punishment was his choice and not Bills?

I really hope you never end up a juror at my trial

Guilty. Off with her head.

 

[jdlboot14]

Why on earth would BB consider trading Meyers? The fan base would be extremely annoyed, and probably the owner too.
At some point BB needs to acknowledge that he's just looking to burn this franchise down before he leaves, because that's what it's seemed like the last few years. But why?