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  1. BobDigital

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    Cowboys at Rams is Saturday 8:00 game and Eagles at Saints is the Sunday 4:00 game.

    Both top seeds are heavy favorites according to Vegas with the Rams favored by 7 and the Saints by 8. Both games look to have a similar match up in the macro sense. Two offensive powerhouses vs two defensively minded teams.

    I don't think either game deserves it own thread here but what about both games together? Does anyone have any thoughts they wish to share on either game?

    Since turning the corner Philly has looked dangerous. They beat the Rams 30-23 in LA so we know they can play with the big boys. The game which really turned their season around may well have been that blow out loss to the Saints (48-7). Since then they have gone 6-1 including playoffs. Their only loss being to the Cowboys in OT. Clearly ever since that Saints game they have figured something out. Yes they defeated the Bears by the skin of their teeth, but they have been in every single game they have played in this streak. I don't think this will be any different. You need to wonder what effects that Saints blow out will have on the Eagles going into this rematch. Will the monster they created come back to haunt them? Will the Eagles be up for revenge and play out of their minds or will they be too cautious remembering how badly they were beaten? I think it is kind of poetic in any case. The Eagles are here in large part because of the Saints and how thoroughly they were embarrassed that game. The only game they lost by more than a score all year.

    On the other ticket we have the Cowboys going to face the Rams. They have won 8 of their last 9. That includes wins over the Saints and Eagles when they were red hot and desperate. Both are wins you simply can't turn your nose up at. Perhaps the most interesting win was the last game of the regular season. They entered the 4th quarter up 21-18 against the Giants. A pretty typical Cowboys game for them on this streak. Then all hell breaks lose in the 4th. The Cowboys are down 32-28 when a really bad turnover happens late in the 4th. The Giants are in a great position to spoil now. Instead the Cowboy's D has a huge series that causes the Giants to lose 2 yards and forces them to settle for a FG. At 28-35 with the ball late in the 4th the cowboys rush down the field for a TD and then a 2 pt conversation. Instead of going for OT they go for the win. That series of events and the resolve to shove their chips all in at a key moment makes this team dangerous. Besides this team's offense not being able to get it going vs the Colts they have had a impressive 9 game run. That final game of the season aside, they have held every offense they've faced to 23 or less points. That includes some of the best offenses in the NFL. It's hard to believe the Rams will run away with this one. And what have the Rams done vs other good defenses you may ask? Well in the 2nd half of the season they played both the Bears and Eagles. They lost to both 6-15 and 23-30 respectively. They did beat a good Seattle defense 36-31. They needed a gift first and goal at the 9 off a turnover late in the 4th to do it though. Without that they may well have lost 29-31.
     
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    Foles and the Eagles seem difficult to quantify with predictions, a lot like those Eli Giants were during those runs. Whatever the point spread, they seemed just good enough to not get blown out and just bad enough to require (and receive) lucky breaks at every turn. They have essentially won their last eight elimination games with Foles, if you count winning out this year knowing a loss knocks them out.
     
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    I don't expect another 48-7 blowout, but I'm not giving Philly much of a chance this time. The Saints are just too good. Crazier things, of course, happen every year. Just not sure this game will be one of those crazy things.

    I find it so incredibly difficult to take the Cowboys seriously, but they're a defensive powerhouse up against a particularly soft team. That makes more sense as an upset to me.

    In all likelihood, the home team wins comfortably in both.
     
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    Saints - Eagles reminds me of 2010 Pats - Jets, where we crushed them at home in the regular season and nobody was giving them a chants. Still painful.

    I'm predicting two upsets and an all-NFC East conference finals.
     
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    Can you imagine a Pats-Cowboys SB? The two most hated teams in the NFL. LOL
     
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    Saints-Eagles is your NFCCG. Foles is back and he now has (2) really good TE's to throw to along with GTIII making key plays. His line keeps him clean in the pocket. I predict a shoot out here with hopefully the Saints wining. Either of these teams will beat the Rams or Cowboys and most likely the AFC in the Super Bowl.
     
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    My wife is from Texas and is a Cowboys fan. We’d have to watch it separately. I would rather this not happen.
     
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    - Watched a fair amount of Saints games this year. Early in the year, they were unstoppable...but recently teams have keyed on Michael Thomas, Alvin Kamara, and Ingram. This has made Brees go to other options....but the Saints don't have many other options...they brought in Dez for a reason. The Saints will have to win it on D, IMO.

    - The Eagles are weak in the secondary....but if they only need to cover Thomas by doubling up...and making sure someone is on Kamara out of the flat....I think they could make a game of it, IMO. If Foles is making all throws....I like the Eagles' chances.

    - As for the Rams, they haven't looked as impressive as they did earlier in the season. Really, if Gurley gets rolling...so do the Rams, IMO. If it's Goff trying to get the passing game going...they really only have Cook and Woods....

    - The Cowboys...they are all about EE. EE is the one that makes them go and the Cooper acquisition has opened up things for them with Gallup/Beasley getting more action. They do have a solid defense...enough to hurt the Rams offense, IMO.

    - I think there's a 40-45% possibility that the NFC title game will be in Dallas.
     
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    I think your number is a little high just because not only does Dallas have to win but philly has to win too. I’d say it’s more between the 15-20 range
     
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    I'm still not ready to predict an upset in either game. My opening post was more about table setting the two games and the chances the underdogs have in each. As for the actual games here is where I am on both.

    Eagles @ Saints - This game in large part comes down to how good Foles plays. That is the case with most Eagles games though. The Eagles have a lot of weapons and one of the top OLs in the NFL. They have a defense capable of holding a good offense down. If I were to compare the 52 and HC of the Eagles to the 52 and HC of the Saints I would need to give the Eagles a slight edge overall. That means it comes down to Brees and Foles. If Foles can play well enough then the Eagles should have the advantage in this game. Personally I doubt Foles will have the same magic as last year. Even in this 6 of 7 game streak he hasn't played consistently good. He will never be as hot as he was in that run. I personally do not believe the Foles magic will be back enough for them to overcome the Saints IF Brees has a his usual very good game. If Brees falters or the Saints fail to take advantage of the mistakes Foles makes or if Foles just gets hot... who knows. My prediction right now is Foles doesn't manage to put it together enough for the Eagles to beat the Saints. I'm thinking maybe 26 Saints 20 Eagles in a close one down to the wire but one i think the Saints clearly should win.

    Cowboys @ Rams - This one is a bit harder to predict. For one thing I think the Cowboys defense is more reliable than the Eagles and more likely to hold their opponent down. The only issue I saw with Dallas when they faced Seattle is they couldn't seem to find a solution for Lockett. I wonder if Cooks will give them a similar issue. Personally I don't think so. While Cooks is a better WR, only a few guys in the league can do the things Lockett does to Ds (like Hill for instance). So I don't think the Rams have the guy who can just out run their DBs. Without that even with Cooks, Roberts and Gurley (assuming he is 100% healthy) the Rams might find getting consistent yards a bit hard. As for the Cowboys they need to come into this with the game plan of feeding Cooper a lot. I don't like their odds if they are planning to run EE 30 times. You need to get big chunk plays. While I'm not saying don't run EE (cause I think this Rams D is even worse against the run than their total stats say) they need to realize you don't beat a team like the Rams consistently without putting up more than 24 points. I think the Cowboys know this and so will try to let the ball rip a bit more. We will see if Dak and Cooper along with their other weapons can get it done. Personally I give them a good chance and think it comes down who makes or misses the last FG. Rams 24 Cowboys 23 but to see this be a Cowboys win wouldn't surprise me much. I'm just BARELY picking the Rams.
     
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    Ted Ginn came back from IR in week 16 after being out for three months. He had 5 catches, 74 yards on 8 targets and was the guy Brees hit with a big play on the game winning drive.

    This is a pretty significant addition IMO. Ginn goes right back to his customary #2 WR spot and everybody else slots down. Kirkwood, Smith and Carr don't have the talent to abuse NFL #2 corners, but safeties and depth corners, they can beat with consistency.

    The Saints major problem right now is the offensive line. The top six players are all injured.

    Armstead - torn pectoral
    Peat - broken hand
    Unger - concussion
    Warford - knee/ankle/foot
    Ramcyzyk - arm, lower leg
    Bushrod - hamstring

    All six were at practice Wednesday, but Unger was the only one able to fully participate.
     
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    .....Eerily interesting...

     
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    The PHIL game is worth lots and lots of money to Foles. He will be worth lots more on the free agent market if he wins.
     
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    There are so many more coincidences than that.

    2009 - Saints went 13-3 with losses to Cowboys, Buccaneers and Panthers.
    2018 - Saints went 13-3 with losses to Cowboys, Buccaneers and Panthers.

    2009 - Final game of the season was a loss to the Panthers in which they rested Brees and many other starters.
    2018 - Final game of the season was a loss to the Panthers in which they rested Brees and many other starters.

    2009 - Drew Brees broke the single-season NFL record for completion percentage.
    2018 - Drew Brees broke the single-season NFL record for completion percentage.

    2009 - Brees led the NFL in passer rating.
    2018 - Brees led the NFL in passer rating

    2009 - Brees finished #2 in the MVP vote.
    2018 - Brees will almost certainly finish #2 in the MVP vote.

    2009 - Pro Bowl left tackle Jammal Brown was injured. His replacement was Jermon Bushrod.
    2018 - Pro Bowl left tackle Terron Armstead was injured. His replacement was Jermon Bushrod.

    2009 - #2 WR Lance Moore missed most of the season with an injury and had only 14 catches that season, but came back in time for the playoffs.
    2018 - #2 WR Ted Ginn missed most of the season with an injury and had only 17 catches, but has come back in time for the playoffs.

    2009 - Leading tackler was linebacker Jonathan Vilma, who came to the Saints from the Jets. He had 110 tackles.
    2018 - Leading tackler was linebacker Demario Davis, who came to the Saints from the Jets. He had 110 tackles.

    2009 - We scored 48 points in a win over the Eagles.
    2018 - We scored 48 points in a win over the Eagles.

    2009 - Our first loss was by one touchdown, our second loss was by a field goal.
    2018 - Our first loss was by one touchdown, our second loss was by a field goal.

    2009 - Splash plays on defense: 80. (26 interceptions, 19 fumble recoveries, 35 sacks)
    2018 - Splash plays on defense: 80. (12 interceptions, 19 fumble recoveries, 49 sacks)

    2009 - 2+0+0+9 = 11.
    2018 - 2+0+1+8 = 11.
    1966 - Saints franchise was founded in November. November = 11.

    It's really strange. There's a bunch more too. Some of them are a reach though.
     
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    Wow :eek:
     
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    My die hard Pats fan son was born in Nov. That trumps your Saint's November birth date which means Pats defeat the Saints in the SB.

    He's 12 born in 2006. 12 + 2006 = 2018.

    2018 season is ours.

    More?

    His first name is Champ
    Middle name is Ion.

    More?

    I'm 51 and born in February (02).
    51+2= LIII


    Sorry. It was in the cards. It is what it is. The numbers never lie. :D
     
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    I admit, the last one is a little more "creative" than the others, which are just straight up coincidences with no funny math needed
     

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