Next Sop Tetairoa McMillan's Pro Day

[Clonamery]

PatsFans2, RealFan02, RayRay and LTD. That's the WR Corps.

Madden game has fried their wherewithal.

 

[Steve102]

Madden game has fried their wherewithal.

That and fantasy football. RBs, unless it's Saquon or Derrick Henry, are all the same. Elite WRs rule. I went from cellar dweller to champ of the league this year on the back of a surge from a healthy Tee Higgins and Josh Allen. I get the love Higgins gets, but fantasy football and real life rosters aren't the same.

 

[Steve102]

PatsFans2, RealFan02, RayRay and LTD. That's the WR Corps.

@Clonamery

More like WR Cult. Gotta come up with something catchy. Cult of Wide Receiver-ality.

 

[imahobgoblin]

If we were picking at 14 instead of 4, I would be more inclined to agree with you. The 4th overall pick should net (according to Scar himself) a player who can sack the QB or a player who can score touchdowns. You don’t reach on a player because you couldn’t find a trading partner. Secondly, you don’t reach 4th overall on a player that has a low ceiling at left tackle. There hasn’t been a starting left tackle this century with a wingspan as short as Campbell’s. If you are locked in on the position, left tackle, as a necessity if Carter and Hunter are gone…to me Campbell isn’t the choice. You have to seriously consider Membou or Simmons instead.

Even if Hunter and Carter are gone at 4 and there is no trading partner...I think you stick with the philosophy of getting a player who can sack the QB or score touchdowns. Which means your big board should be Mason Graham, Ashton Jeanty, and then T-Mac. You then trade back up in the first round to draft a bonafide left tackle or grab one early in round 2.

And yes, I’ve listened to everything Vrabel has said. Sounds like you didn’t because you missed the part about him going into detail the importance of a WR1 for a young developing QB. Vrabel will build the trenches but if you think he’s not going to take advantage of our best asset (Maye), then you don’t know him very well.

Lol and yet you totally ignore the massive problem in this draft. There really isn't a difference between the quality of player between 4-14. Once Carter and Hunter are gone, that's it. No more blue chips. If you can trade down a few, then do it. If not, its still the same guy at 4 or 14.

I heard exactly what Vrabel said about WR and he connected his comments to AJ Brown, who is not leaving the Eagles anytime soon. There is no clear AJ Brown type in this draft. It is a weak WR draft. Tet is highly flawed. He would have have been a 2nd round pick last year. Golden is not a first round pick. Look at his tape and career. He is the epitome of on inconsistency. Two great games in a college career with 3 years if inconsistent play and a good 40 time do not make a WR1. Oh sure, he has potential, but he is no AJ Brown who I was begging for to be drafted. I would be dancing if we got Egbuka in round 2. That dude is a leader and building block. He is just not a sexy pick like a Harrison, Nabers, or Odunze. I love Jayden Higgins too, but he is raw.

I am all in on WR. That is not the issue. There is just none in this draft worth a #1 in my opinion. Tet is the next Quentin Johnston.

I don't know Vrabel very well? Well, I don't know him at all. I have never met him. Have you? Hahahaha. No, You haven't.

 

[imahobgoblin]

He said that YOU met the local gotta have a WR crew. He was referring to you responding to the guy that wants a WR at all costs. At least that is how I took it

Ah that makes a lot more sense.

 

[imahobgoblin]

This place is going to go ape sh*t if we draft him isn't it? It's very simple. He's a highly productive WR with excellent body control who makes some outstanding catches. No he's not the next coming of Julio jones, but that person doesn't exist in this draft so that's irrelevant. He's not the next coming of N'Keal Harry either. He's probably going to be good for 1,000 yards and 5 or more TDs per season from year 2 and be a quality starter for us for years to come. Everyone needs to calm down.

He is the second coming of Quentin Johnston.

 

[manxman2601]

He is the second coming of Quentin Johnston.

He's the first coming of Tet McMillan. Just judge him on that.

 

[Rdforty2]

Lol and yet you totally ignore the massive problem in this draft. There really isn't a difference between the quality of player between 4-14. Once Carter and Hunter are gone, that's it. No more blue chips. If you can trade down a few, then do it. If not, its still the same guy at 4 or 14.

I heard exactly what Vrabel said about WR and he connected his comments to AJ Brown, who is not leaving the Eagles anytime soon. There is no clear AJ Brown type in this draft. It is a weak WR draft. Tet is highly flawed. He would have have been a 2nd round pick last year. Golden is not a first round pick. Look at his tape and career. He is the epitome of on inconsistency. Two great games in a college career with 3 years if inconsistent play and a good 40 time do not make a WR1. Oh sure, he has potential, but he is no AJ Brown who I was begging for to be drafted. I would be dancing if we got Egbuka in round 2. That dude is a leader and building block. He is just not a sexy pick like a Harrison, Nabers, or Odunze. I love Jayden Higgins too, but he is raw.

I am all in on WR. That is not the issue. There is just none in this draft worth a #1 in my opinion. Tet is the next Quentin Johnston.

I don't know Vrabel very well? Well, I don't know him at all. I have never met him. Have you? Hahahaha. No, You haven't.

Worthy, Pearsall, and Leggette went in Round 1 last year. McMillan is definitely a better prospect than those and would've gone ahead of them.

McMillan does have some similarities to Quentin Johnston. Their size is somewhat similar. Thats about it. But McMillan runs better routes, can run more varied routes, has better hands, and is even better in contested catch situations.

 

[imahobgoblin]

Worthy, Pearsall, and Leggette went in Round 1 last year. McMillan is definitely a better prospect than those and would've gone ahead of them.

McMillan does have some similarities to Quentin Johnston. Their size is somewhat similar. Thats about it. But McMillan runs better routes, can run more varied routes, has better hands, and is even better in contested catch situations.

I don't know where you are getting this from. Tmac is not a route specialist. He is totally a contested catch receiver who was bigger and better in college. That will lose a ton of luster in the pros. Worthy, Pearsall, and Leggette had no business being in round 1 last year.

 

[Brick27]

Lol and yet you totally ignore the massive problem in this draft. There really isn't a difference between the quality of player between 4-14. Once Carter and Hunter are gone, that's it. No more blue chips. If you can trade down a few, then do it. If not, its still the same guy at 4 or 14.

Hate to be Mr. Technical and take a page out of the egotistical D-bag who argues at anything agreed or disagreed with, aka Ring 6’s toolkit (I should have known that was Andy), but..

The quality of player between 4-14 is not the same, but it might be better to say their view as a prospect might be more similar. Not every player drafted there will have the same linear career path when all is said and done, and some will be better than others. Now there’s the goal of deciphering who will do what, and who may be in better position to succeed than others if chosen. It’s not so cut and dry.

Either way, 5 years from now, the usual suspects will be clamoring about why they didn’t have the fruition to draft player X at 4, who went 20 some odd picks later and was the best of the group. While those same people aren’t pounding the table right now to draft them.

There are known people here who advocated trading the Pats 2nd rounder last year or maybe even entertaining the scenario of their 1st in a package to get F’ing JUSTIN FIELDS. Sure enough, they’ve changed their tune as well laying it on in the Jets signing thread.

 

[Rdforty2]

I don't know where you are getting this from. Tmac is not a route specialist. He is totally a contested catch receiver who was bigger and better in college. That will lose a ton of luster in the pros. Worthy, Pearsall, and Leggette had no business being in round 1 last year.

I didnt say he was a route technician. I said hes better than Johnston. Hes capable of mkre things, and prepared to do more things in the league. McMillan is better than Johnston across the board. TMac is not QJ 2.0 as you suggested.

 

[imahobgoblin]

Hate to be Mr. Technical and take a page out of the egotistical D-bag who argues at anything agreed or disagreed with, aka Ring 6’s toolkit (I should have known that was Andy), but..

The quality of player between 4-14 is not the same, but it might be better to say their view as a prospect might be more similar. Not every player drafted there will have the same linear career path when all is said and done, and some will be better than others. Now there’s the goal of deciphering who will do what, and who may be in better position to succeed than others if chosen. It’s not so cut and dry.

Either way, 5 years from now, the usual suspects will be clamoring about why they didn’t have the fruition to draft player X at 4, who went 20 some odd picks later and was the best of the group. While those same people aren’t pounding the table right now to draft them.

There are known people here who advocated trading the Pats 2nd rounder last year or maybe even entertaining the scenario of their 1st in a package to get F’ing JUSTIN FIELDS. Sure enough, they’ve changed their tune as well laying it on in the Jets signing thread.

In this draft, the quality of player from 4-14 is the same.

 

[imahobgoblin]

I didnt say he was a route technician. I said hes better than Johnston. Hes capable of mkre things, and prepared to do more things in the league. McMillan is better than Johnston across the board. TMac is not QJ 2.0 as you suggested.

In my opinion he is. It makes no diff, though. He won't be a Pat.

 

[dliverey44]

In my opinion he is. It makes no diff, though. He won't be a Pat.

I agree, I don't think the Pats draft Tet. If they do I will get on band wagon because I will assume that they have a vision to use him.

 

[Brick27]

In this draft, the quality of player from 4-14 is the same.

Alright then, look forward to following the careers of picks 4 through 14 and seeing them all have the exact equivalent in production at their respective positions. That is totally logical and reasonable to assume..

 

[PatsFan2]

PatsFans2, RealFan02, RayRay and LTD. That's the WR Corps.

And don't ever forget it goblin we love Divas.

 

[imahobgoblin]

And don't ever forget it goblin we love Divas.

I would rather have intelligent fans over drama queens.

 

[manxman2601]

Wrong thread.

 

[Rdforty2]

Alright then, look forward to following the careers of picks 4 through 14 and seeing them all have the exact equivalent in production at their respective positions. That is totally logical and reasonable to assume..

That's not really relevant. Players in different situations can impact their careers.

All it means is, teams view players different and there is a clump of players that could go 4 or could go say, 12.

Off the top of my head, guys you've seen mocked 4-10 are Sanders, Jeanty, McMillan, Warren, Campbell, Membou, Stewart, Walker, Graham, and Johnson. I think even Loveland and Barron have been mocked in the top 10 to some. Thats up to 12 guys, after the likely top 3 picks.

We've seen Membou at 4 and 11 somewhat regularly.

We've seen Campbell at 4 and 10.

We've seen McMillan at 4, 9, and out of the top 10.

The point i think is, there isn't a clear cut top 5 or top 8, or whatever. Outside of the expected 3, it seems there's a drop. And a big group of players make sense from 4-12. Different teams will have their board stacked different. You could make the strongest argument for Membou, Campbell, McMillan, and Graham for the Patriots at 4. If it was the Raiders at 4, Sanders, Jeanty, and Johnson may be in consideration with others. If the 9ers were at 4, Stewart and Walker may come into play.

At draft time, there isn't a clear top 5. A group of players could be 4 or 5 or 10 or 12. I think that means it's going to be hard to move down. You never know though. Some may have strong convictions on someone and want to guarantee they get their guy. Thats the thing about ranking guys in a general sense. NFL teams rank with their specific team in mind. Dane Brugler and Mel Kiper and Todd McShay rank in general. Only the NFL evaluation matters but what we see is the general rankings. And IMO, the general consensus is, there is a pretty large tier of players that could go in any order after pick 3 or 4.

 

[manxman2601]

An X-receiver's route tree.