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luuked

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I mean... he is not wrong... but it is not "insulting" Brady at all. It is Brady being smart and playing within the rule. I do not think Judon is implying anything else.

It is much noise about nothing, really.

I agree. It is more a problem with the rules and how some refs give QBs too much slack with grounding than anything negative about Brady.

It must be a frustrating experience for DEs to beat protection, have the QB essentially on a silver platter and see them just throw the ball in the ground because an elgible receiver was somewhat in the area.
 

Le Numéro Douze

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I agree. It is more a problem with the rules and how some refs give QBs too much slack with grounding than anything negative about Brady.

It must be a frustrating experience for DEs to beat protection, have the QB essentially on a silver platter and see them just throw the ball in the ground because an elgible receiver was somewhat in the area.

What Brady does really well is putting the ball directly at the feet of an eligible receiver. It is CLEARLY an intentional incomplete pass, but it is legal. The famous "throwing it in the stand" move too. Like a few feet above the head of a covered receiver down the sideline to avoid a sack.

I call it being savy.
 

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What Brady does really well is putting the ball directly at the feet of an eligible receiver. It is CLEARLY an intentional incomplete pass, but it is legal. The famous "throwing it in the stand" move too. Like a few feet above the head of a covered receiver down the sideline to avoid a sack.

I call it being savy.
It is savvy - I think Judon is praising him here, because Brady's job is not to get whacked and sacked.
 

luuked

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What Brady does really well is putting the ball directly at the feet of an eligible receiver. It is CLEARLY an intentional incomplete pass, but it is legal. The famous "throwing it in the stand" move too. Like a few feet above the head of a covered receiver down the sideline to avoid a sack.

I call it being savy.

Of course its savy, but if you go for the spirit of the rule any uncatchable passes should still end up as grounding.

I get why it will never be fixed in a league that lusts after more and more highlights on offense. My point was more that I can see why DEs like Judon are frustrated with how its handled.
 

Le Numéro Douze

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Of course its savy, but if you go for the spirit of the rule any uncatchable passes should still end up as grounding.

I get why it will never be fixed in a league that lusts after more and more highlights on offense. My point was more that I can see why DEs like Judon are frustrated with how its handled.

I get that, but, honestly, I like the rule as it is. Or what I understand of it anyway.

- In the tackle box
- A receiver in the area

It does not leave a LOT of place to interpretation. "Any uncatchable pass" leaves a LOT of space to interpretation and that's dangerous.
 

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Did he offer thoughts on geriatric father/adult son spit swapping?
 

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In 2019 Brady seemed to be doing it more than in other years. Receivers injured and back ups and newbies not running routs right or getting separation. I felt Brady was very frustrated and probably gave up on plays quicker. Remember him saying he was the unhappiest 8-0 player ever? That's when I think he saw the writing on the wall about staying or going.
 

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How dumb do you have to be to sign with a team and within weeks take a shot at one of their ex players who was idolized by your current team's fan base and who is arguably the greatest athlete in any sport ever?
Just goes to show you can take the player out of Baltimore, but you can't the Baltimore out of a player. Just a classless organization of whiny, excuse making crybababy losers. Legitimately one of the most unlikeable franchises in the NFL. Hope he works out better than the last high priced Raven Bill signed.
 

Pats1971

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Of course its savy, but if you go for the spirit of the rule any uncatchable passes should still end up as grounding.

I get why it will never be fixed in a league that lusts after more and more highlights on offense. My point was more that I can see why DEs like Judon are frustrated with how its handled.
Then grounding would be called 30 times a game.

I do not think he meant Brady is grounding. He said Brady is throwing the ball away and this is because Brady unlike a lot of QB's hates negative plays. An incomplete is better than a sack. Brady has a quick release and that quick release also connects to receivers too, so maybe he should have just said quick release.
 

Pats1971

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In 2019 Brady seemed to be doing it more than in other years. Receivers injured and back ups and newbies not running routs right or getting separation. I felt Brady was very frustrated and probably gave up on plays quicker. Remember him saying he was the unhappiest 8-0 player ever? That's when I think he saw the writing on the wall about staying or going.
Yeah the pats were dead last in separation and Brady had to throw a lot of way.
 

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