NFL News Myles Garret requests trade:

[Huckleberry1]

title of the thread needs to be clarified:

Myles Garret requests trade to a Super Bowl contender​

in other words, not to us.

Changes my take completely. Go get him.

 

[bakes781]

Three words: Dead Cap Hit.

His dead cap money is $36,216,220. The savings is $16,494,100. The Browns are over the cap $30 million. Deshaun's cap is $72,935,000 with $172,734,000 in dead money.

He is going nowhere. I just don't see how the Browns could do it.

If Myles is serious about wanting to win then he's got to be willing to rip up his contract and work out a longterm deal with whomever.

 

[Real fan 02]

I don’t think the players they add in free agency need to be All Pro’s, but most of them do need to be guys like Alaric Jackson, 26 year old who is a good starter. They can also add a guy like Jarran Reed DT who is older but can be a stop gap player while they build over the next couple of years. But their bigger investments need to be guys who can be foundational pieces for them, like Nick Bolton, Odighizuwa, Jackson, Baun etc..

Highly agree! I've said personally we need to find some Jarvis green's and ty Warren's.. guys like that.. guys young 25,26 years old that can come here and be here for a while.

 

[Real fan 02]

"Tell me you play Madden without telling me you play Madden"

I admit.. I haven't played madden in years..

 

[40yrpatsfan]

Doesn't matter. No team is trading for a guy who says he won't play there. There's no protection for it and it wastes everyones time. A no trade clause is more about having the leverage to lock a team down so they are forced to negotiate an exit with you on your terms.

A team that trades for him is giving up a second or the equivalent of it. Nobody is doing that if they aren't 100% sure he's playing and all in on going there

It matters in terms of getting a foot in the door. We have a good story to tell and a persuasive guy telling it, but a no-trade clause doesn't give you a chance to even meet.

 

[PWRxWLF]

Agreed. I think this is the year we can make the playoffs. I feel like we can solve the needs in the next 2 months.

I want your psychiatrist. They’re ****ing good!

 

[Rob0729]

Yup. If we were mid dynasty or on the cusp, then yeah make the splurge. And even then, 4th overall is insane when you can just use that to get a blue chip talent locked in cheap for several years.

Even if the Pats were in the middle of a dynasty run, the 4th overall pick is way too much for Garrett straight up. There isn't a non-QB in the NFL over the age of 25-26 I would give up that much to get.

 

[rkarp1]

The Browns are currently $30 plus million over the cap. They would take an additional $16 million cap hit if they cut or trade Garrett before June 1st. That means any trade will likely happen after that. That would mean the Pats would have to go through free agency and the draft not addressing edge rusher and hope they can get a deal done in the summer with the Browns.

Garrett's cap number for 2025 is $19.7M
his base salary in 2025 is $1.25m amd in 2026 it is $1.3m.
all of his pro rated bonus money stays on the Browns cap

Myles Garrett Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money, and Contract History | Over The Cap

 

[imahobgoblin]

If Myles is serious about wanting to win then he's got to be willing to rip up his contract and work out a longterm deal with whomever.

That has nothing to do with what I posted. It would help his new team, not Cleveland. It makes no difference. He can't win here with this team. We have a long way to go.

 

[bakes781]

That has nothing to do with what I posted. It would help his new team, not Cleveland. It makes no difference. He can't win here with this team. We have a long way to go.

Yeah he ain't coming here.

 

[imahobgoblin]

Yeah he ain't coming here.

No kidding.

 

[imahobgoblin]

This is complete idiocy and would set us back considerably.

STUPID

Cleveland Browns receive: 2025 first-round pick (No. 4 overall), 2025 third-round pick (No. 69), 2025 third-round pick (No. 77), 2025 fifth-round pick (No. 145), QB Joe Milton III

New England Patriots receive: Edge Myles Garrett

Just stop this trash.

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

Very intriguing. Although I don't buy the "win" reasoning.

Hes 29 and wants one more big, guaranteed pay day.

I don’t either. If you think about it, if he really wanted to win overall, he would have never gone to Cleveland. I think he could be open to coming here. Money talks for these dudes.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I don’t either. If you think about it, if he really wanted to win overall, he would have never gone to Cleveland. I think he could be open to coming here. Money talks for these dudes.

He was drafted by Cleveland.

 

[Rob0729]

Garrett's cap number for 2025 is $19.7M
his base salary in 2025 is $1.25m amd in 2026 it is $1.3m.
all of his pro rated bonus money stays on the Browns cap

Myles Garrett Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money, and Contract History | Over The Cap

I am not saying the Pats cannot afford him. I am saying the Browns cannot trade him at least until after June 1.

 

[Ring 6]

IDK, he is going to be 30 next year. I would be a little concerned that he would be on the decline by the time the Patriots were a contender again even if they get there on the fastest timeline.

I wouldn't be against a trade, but I would be concerned about giving up too much for him.

Patriots should be striving to be a contender right now

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Huck, it has relevance because we can't ignore that we missed on the draft. Bill was ultimately fired due to the drafting.. the drafting is a reason why the roster isn't good. Look at KC they drafted well, eagles drafted well. Post brady we haven't. The roster has bottomed out. I agree the trenches is where we need to dedicate resources. Furthermore realistically who knows what Cleveland would take for Garrett. Any contender is going to have give up draft capital.

NOONE knows how far that "Collaboration" went, and we probably never will.
Blaming Bill ALONE is probably a mistake, considering he generally is a trench guy.
They ALL make mistakes, it just seems like "Bills"are more of an EXCUSE for everything that has happened, compared to others...look at Saint Shanahan and crew.
I throw up over myself.

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

He was drafted by Cleveland.

Wtf am I thinking of then. My bad. So damn confused now lol.

 

[Rob0729]

Patriots should be striving to be a contender right now

They have to realistic too. I have confidence that Vrabel will be trying to build a contender as fast as he can, but I realize that the Pats currently have very little to work with at this point to be one. And trading away a high draft pick or two for a guy who may not be elite in two years is not the best way to build a contender when you are starting at the bottom.

 

[lancerman]

It matters in terms of getting a foot in the door. We have a good story to tell and a persuasive guy telling it, but a no-trade clause doesn't give you a chance to even meet.

In situations like this, usually the player has a shortlist of teams. Regardless of a no trade clause, there's only going to be a handful of teams he'll even let his agent talk to. When you make a whole public announcement that boils down to "I want to win a Super Bowl before I retire" there's going to be a red line that makes teams like us a non starter.

He'll have a list of a teams that are contenders he will consider. The Browns will have a list of teams they really don't want to trade him to (at least out of the division if not the conference). And then they'll be an even shorter list of teams that meet both criteria's that can feasibly get the Browns a return that they feel acceptable.

At most maybe someone makes a phone call to be able to say they did and then his agent goes "thanks for the call but you aren't in consideration".