Morris has injured sternum, may miss a month - BostonHerald

[sebman2112]

Why didn't this get merged with the thread I posted on the subject when this was first reported? Just saying, we don't need two threads on the subject.

 

[PromisedLand]

check out www.sportsinjuryclinic.net Great, great site. Particularly for week-end warriors or amateur diagnostics. Not in a condescending way. Very informative.

good site. It's fun to speculate, but the fact that speculators are usually wrong gets my goat.

Yes, great site, thanks for the reference. Color me speculator. I hope you still have a goat.

The term they use for what I was talking about is "Sterno-clavicular dislocation". At least that's what I gather based on the Herald description.

Some interesting excerpts (with my bolding and remarks):

What is a sterno-clavicular injury?

The clavicle (or collar bone) connects to the sternum (or breast bone) in the middle of the chest at the top. If the shoulder is subjected to a hard impact this joint can become damaged. This compares well with the Herald description of "Morris injured the bone connecting the sternum to the clavicle". There is no such bone, but there is such as ligament. It must be said however that this is a very rare injury but if it does occur and is quite bad you should seek medical help because the bones are dangerously close to important blood vessels. (Could this be what happened when Mo Lewis hit our #11?)

Symptoms include:

Pain when you push in at the point where your collar bone meets your breast bone.
Pain radiating into the shoulder.

What can the athlete do?

Rest
If the injury is not severe then there is little else they can do. The athlete should be able to return to sport within a few weeks but pain may still be present for a few months. This is consistent with the report of missing four weeks. However given the violent nature of football and the continuing pain I wonder how effective Sammy will be when he returns?

 

[sebman2112]

Yes, great site, thanks for the reference. Color me speculator. I hope you still have a goat.

The term they use for what I was talking about is "Sterno-clavicular dislocation". At least that's what I gather based on the Herald description.

Some interesting excerpts (with my bolding and remarks):

What is a sterno-clavicular injury?

The clavicle (or collar bone) connects to the sternum (or breast bone) in the middle of the chest at the top. If the shoulder is subjected to a hard impact this joint can become damaged. This compares well with the Herald description of "Morris injured the bone connecting the sternum to the clavicle". There is no such bone, but there is such as ligament. It must be said however that this is a very rare injury but if it does occur and is quite bad you should seek medical help because the bones are dangerously close to important blood vessels. (Could this be what happened when Mo Lewis hit our #11?)

Symptoms include:

Pain when you push in at the point where your collar bone meets your breast bone.
Pain radiating into the shoulder.

What can the athlete do?

Rest
If the injury is not severe then there is little else they can do. The athlete should be able to return to sport within a few weeks but pain may still be present for a few months. This is consistent with the report of missing four weeks. However given the violent nature of football and the continuing pain I wonder how effective Sammy will be when he returns?

Yea, this is what I already talked about in the thread I created. it has to be an injury to his sternoclavicular joint. It makes sense for it to be either the fibrocartilage or the costoclavicular ligament that was specifically injured. This is why I'm sticking with my pre-Tomase guestimate of 4-6 weeks.

 

[SoonerPatriot]

Terrible!!

Addai rushed for over 1000 yards last year, and played in all 16 games. Addai has missed one game this season while Maroney has already missed three. Addai carries the ball more then Maroney and is a actual feature back.

If Maroney only missed on game this season and did not have a history of always being nicked up I would not say what I say. So lets recap. Addai rushed for more yards in his rookie season , was never hurt, and has only missed one game this year while being the colts feature back. Maroney has missed three games already( on baby carries ), missed time last year, and had shoulder surgery in the off season. Hmm ok.

I like Maroney's talent, but he is not very durable.

NEXT

Addai's success last year has little to do with Addai and everything to do with the Colts system. The plugged a nobody in there week before last and the guy ran for nearaly a buck fifty. You could put Heath Evans in their system and he'd be a thousand yard guy.

That said, I understand why people's patience with Maroney is wearing thin. We've played six games this year, he's missed three. Not good.

 

[sebman2112]

Addai's success last year has little to do with Addai and everything to do with the Colts system. The plugged a nobody in there week before last and the guy ran for nearaly a buck fifty.

It's nice to see some intelligent post on this board when it comes to this subject. The Colts can turn a street free agent into an above average back, and an above average back into a demon.

 

[PromisedLand]

It's nice to see some intelligent post on this board when it comes to this subject. The Colts can turn a street free agent into an above average back, and an above average back into a demon.

Given:

1. our passing attack with Brady, Moss, Stallworth, Welker and (hopefully) Watson

2. the state of health of running back corps

I hope we can do the same. We're going to need to until Maroney is healthy.

 

[cstjohn17]

Given:

1. our passing attack with Brady, Moss, Stallworth, Welker and (hopefully) Watson

2. the state of health of running back corps

I hope we can do the same. We're going to need to until Maroney is healthy.

Remember Famous Amos Zereoue, he was awful. Where the hell is Mike Cloud?

 

[sebman2112]

Maroney has missed 3 times as many games with only 4 less carries per game.

How do you explain Addai playing for all 16 games last season and rushing for over 1000 yards? Meanwhile Maroney missed several games and ran like crap at the end of the year due to his injuries. Then had major off season surgery to boot.

Danny I gotta bust on you for something here. You keep saying Maroney's had "baby carries" Then I've seen you bring up not only Addai, but Drew as well as some other backs.

Sorry to break it to ya Danny boy but Addai is the only RB out of that entire 2006 draft class to have more carries than Maroney, and that's with Maroney missing 5 games (4 more than Addai). That's right, while missing 5 games he's still carried the ball more times than Drew, Williams, and every other back besides Addai.

Addai (310)
Maroney (229)
Bush (224)
Drew (220)
Washington (177)
Williams (174)
White (148)
Norwood (140)


Now, this wasn't in the NFL but Maroney carried the ball a lot more than Addai ever thought of in college (racked up far more yards), was the workhorse and went over 30-40 carries more than once. To contrast that Addai had some injuries at LSU while getting far less carries.

Addai's also two years older than Maroney by the way.

 

[ALP]

im still waiting for maroney to break out...
im not quite as touched by his missing games, i dont think that affects him that much or makes hima worse back then addai, but down the road if htye both stay healty i think maroney will be better then addai...

im thinking maroney starts puting on the extra gear around week 11...and runs us all the way to the sb

 

[spacecrime]

Hi, cherrypicker. Hey, ya know what, though - you're now no longer allowed to include anything about Maroney last year when he was playing hurt. And given that LoMar has been a "game-time decision" for the three games he's missed, from all reports ABLE TO PLAY, and simply a coach's decision, then I guess the games he's missed THIS year don't count, either.

Stop introducing facts. This is your second warning.

 

[danny88]

Stop introducing facts. This is your second warning.

Oh look its the vice president of the homer brigade. Why hello captain ass kiss!

 

[danny88]

Danny I gotta bust on you for something here. You keep saying Maroney's had "baby carries" Then I've seen you bring up not only Addai, but Drew as well as some other backs.

Sorry to break it to ya Danny boy but Addai is the only RB out of that entire 2006 draft class to have more carries than Maroney, and that's with Maroney missing 5 games (4 more than Addai). That's right, while missing 5 games he's still carried the ball more times than Drew, Williams, and every other back besides Addai.

Addai (310)
Maroney (229)
Bush (224)
Drew (220)
Washington (177)
Williams (174)
White (148)
Norwood (140)


Now, this wasn't in the NFL but Maroney carried the ball a lot more than Addai ever thought of in college (racked up far more yards), was the workhorse and went over 30-40 carries more than once. To contrast that Addai had some injuries at LSU while getting far less carries.

Addai's also two years older than Maroney by the way.

Thats all well and good but I am talking about NFL carries in the NFL. College means nothing. I am not talking about Maroney in college. I am talking about Maroney in the pros. So infact you are not busting on me because like everyone else you have to modify your argument to make a point. I said the pros. Not college, the pros. Bush was a beast in college. Know what that means now? Nothing.

Maroney is Injured way to much and already out of three games maybe more. First round studs are not hurt all the time. If you guys want to excuse his obvious lack of durability to this point fine. Just dont start whining if we have no running game because Morris is hurt and Faulk is not that durable either.

 

[patsox23]

Thats all well and good but I am talking about NFL carries in the NFL. College means nothing. I am not talking about Maroney in college. I am talking about Maroney in the pros. Injured way to much and already out of three games maybe more. First round studs are not hurt all the time. If you guys want to excuse his obvious lack of durability to this point fine. Just dont start whining if we have no running game because Morris is hurt and Faulk is not that durable either.

I notice you only focused on the college aspect of his post. What about the NFL carries part of it?

 

[danny88]

I notice you only focused on the college aspect of his post. What about the NFL carries part of it?

I ignored it because Drew was taken 60th overall. I didnt mention any of the other backs other then Drew so why would I comment. Also, so you live on here? I post and 4 sec later you reply.

Addai > then maroney when it comes to durability. Wish we took em.

 

[patsox23]

I just got home. Sorry, wuss. It's VERY early to proclaim any of what you're setting in stone. That's all we're saying. That, and "nice **** out on the NFL carries question."

 

[sebman2112]

I notice you only focused on the college aspect of his post. What about the NFL carries part of it?

He can say whatever he likes, but the real reason (all of us already know) he passed over the entire NFL aspect of my response is simply because he's oblivious to the facts. If it doesn't fit his agenda than he'll simply gloss over it and continue on. For those who don't know that is a classic trolling methed.

 

[Pats726]

First round studs are not hurt all the time.

The rule accordiung to dxxxxxx...I wonder if you ever heard of Willie McGinest..who was a higher pick than Maroney and injured a LOT more than Maroney was in his early years.and for a few years more.... I bet you were one of the yappers complaining about him...no?? What a bust he was?? DISMISSED!!!!

 

[patchick]

The rule accordiung to dxxxxxx...I wonder if you ever heard of Willie McGinest..who was a higher pick than Maroney and injured a LOT more than Maroney was in his early years.and for a few years more....

Plenty of 1st-rounders have been hurt early on then come on strong later. Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow are two recent examples.

As for Maroney, he was 1 of 3 RBs taken in a 10-pick span in the 1st round in 2006. So far he's done better than one (Williams), worse than another (Addai). Neither a steal nor a bust at this stage.