Mike ditka really going after the pats today

[FreeTedWilliams]

Ditka absolutely defined "classless" back in SBXX, when instead of letting Walter Payton get a touchdown in the Superbowl, with a big lead he brings in the "Fridge" to score.

I can only hope that we meet the Bears in the Superbowl, ... Pats up big, 1st and goal from the one, I have just the man for the job........

 

[Fanfrom1960]

I thought Ditka was quite "classless" in his comments, not to mention INCONSISTENT. He claimed San Diego is the "better team" but the Patriots were not well coached which makes no sense. He called the Patriots players "childish" for mocking Merriman, but apparently Merriman isn't "childish" for mocking DURING a game, nor is LT "classless" for his cheapshot at Belichick. He also implied that Belichick is not a great coach although Belichick has coached teams generally regarded as "not the better team" to three SuperBowls. By the way, one of his named "great coaches" is Don Shula, who won exactly one SuperBowl. Obviously superbowl wins isn't on his list of things that makes someone a "great coach". Of course, the fraudulent "journalists", Mike & Mike, didn't bother to ask him why he doesn't consider Belichick, who has done what NO other coach in NFL HISTORY has done (won three SBs), a great coach. Rather, they just cackled like two drunk Bears fans. Don't know which is worse...sports journalism or the news media.

Sounds like Ditka was way out of line, but Shula won 2 SBs with Miami, '72 and '73.

 

[nickelbolt]

BB was supposed to be the genius who would come up with a plan to stop the MVP. He did not.

The Pats' red zone D was supposed to limit the Chargers scoring. They did not.

The only answer BB had was nothing... well except for the following:
Eric Parker's atrocious performance, Clinton Hart's horrible hands, Quentin Jammer's 1 bad play... oh And Troy Brown for saving his butt.

Other than that, the Chargers O-line pushed that vaunted front 7 around. Seymour did nothing all day - he was more or less manhandled by a rookie.

But this Chargers team will rebound next year. And the Pats are coming to SD in the regular season, I think.

So that one should be really, really fun.

I'll be back then too.

 

[mcbee]

I thought Ditka was quite "classless" in his comments, not to mention INCONSISTENT. He claimed San Diego is the "better team" but the Patriots were not well coached which makes no sense. He called the Patriots players "childish" for mocking Merriman, but apparently Merriman isn't "childish" for mocking DURING a game, nor is LT "classless" for his cheapshot at Belichick. He also implied that Belichick is not a great coach although Belichick has coached teams generally regarded as "not the better team" to three SuperBowls. By the way, one of his named "great coaches" is Don Shula, who won exactly one SuperBowl. Obviously superbowl wins isn't on his list of things that makes someone a "great coach". Of course, the fraudulent "journalists", Mike & Mike, didn't bother to ask him why he doesn't consider Belichick, who has done what NO other coach in NFL HISTORY has done (won three SBs), a great coach. Rather, they just cackled like two drunk Bears fans. Don't know which is worse...sports journalism or the news media.

Didn't Noll win 4 SB? I thought a bunch won 3. Well not a bunch, but Bill Walsh? Didn't he win 3? Maybe someone else did?

 

[PatsFanInVa]

One thing is clear about the Pats: we win when we're supposed to lose, and do it a lot. I can state unequivically that SD has better personnel, overall. I have no problem saying that -- although I do hope we address some of that in the draft/offseason/etc.

What the Pats have is the ability to play the better game, when it counts. As Marty said, you can't make that many mistakes (that SD made) and expect to win. So Ditka and Shotty have plenty of time out on the links to talk about "hey how anal do you have to BE about when you call timeouts??? Jeez!" And BB can continue his "perceived" genius to -- one would hope -- another Super Bowl.

As for Merriman, I agree with the poster who asked why it's okay to mock DURING the game but not after. You NEVER see the Pats slap a ball back from the vicinity of the goal line on punt coverage and flex and preen like he just scored the winning TD in the super bowl... you NEVER saw Vrabel doing his "signature dance" after sacking Rivers... the Chargers were all about making plays and striking poses in equal measure, and the Pats were about making plays, because they knew they had to to win this game. The Chargers looked like that team that wanted to establish dominance, intimidate, etc. The Pats just hung in there and scrapped out a win... did you see Troy Brown primp and preen after that stripped ball? No, but he arguably won the game with that play.

Did the Pats have to go out and jack with Merriman after the game? Nah. But they had a lot of emotions they controlled during the game, ready to come out after the game.

Maybe LT should put 2 and 2 together and realize (since he knows they did not control their emotions,) that emotion is better vented after a playoff game than during.

All that said: that was a tough-as-nails game, for both sides, and all the talk of "class" aside, SD should be congratulated for playing a hell of a ball game. If I were an SD fan I would be crushed, and those of us who've been with the Pats more than 5 years know that feeling (from more than just the Denver game last year.) Let LT have his moment, let Ditka have his Shotty moment.

We'll get ourselves another Lombardi and be happy with that.

PFnV

 

[mcbee]

BB was supposed to be the genius who would come up with a plan to stop the MVP. He did not.

The Pats' red zone D was supposed to limit the Chargers scoring. They did not.

The only answer BB had was nothing... well except for the following:
Eric Parker's atrocious performance, Clinton Hart's horrible hands, Quentin Jammer's 1 bad play... oh And Troy Brown for saving his butt.

Other than that, the Chargers O-line pushed that vaunted front 7 around. Seymour did nothing all day - he was more or less manhandled by a rookie.

But this Chargers team will rebound next year. And the Pats are coming to SD in the regular season, I think.

So that one should be really, really fun.

I'll be back then too.

Yeah I noticed Seymour didn't do much. Not much pressure, a couple LT runs to his side where he did nothing. Either McNeill is an all time great or Seymour had a bad day or isn't that good. Maybe he's still hurt, but I diddn't see him do much.

 

[Bruschi 3:16]

hearing on mike and mike...says the pats were classless ..they are patriots so will get away with it..
"asks" if the patriots were well coached yesterday ?..everyone said genius will stop greatness and he did not...
he seems to have a dislike for BB for some reason

I think he's jealous of BB. Ditka was a great coach until he got to NO.

 

[SVN]

BB was supposed to be the genius who would come up with a plan to stop the MVP. He did not.

The Pats' red zone D was supposed to limit the Chargers scoring. They did not.

The only answer BB had was nothing... well except for the following:
Eric Parker's atrocious performance, Clinton Hart's horrible hands, Quentin Jammer's 1 bad play... oh And Troy Brown for saving his butt.

Other than that, the Chargers O-line pushed that vaunted front 7 around. Seymour did nothing all day - he was more or less manhandled by a rookie.

But this Chargers team will rebound next year. And the Pats are coming to SD in the regular season, I think.

So that one should be really, really fun.

I'll be back then too.

what BB was 'supposed' to do is what the media perceived it...the pats knew they couldnt stop LT from getting his yards but they never gave him a 90 yard run...they made the stops on 3rd downs and got off the field and caused the INT and forced the fumble...he coached his team to be mentally in the game and not to lose focus and make boneheaded mistakes/penalties/timeouts ...not sure if marty did that .
Troy brown made the play but since you dont follow pats much ..let me tell you..they practice more situational football than any team...nothing a player does on the field has not been practiced before and they have practiced such situations before week in week out......thats coaching..

 

[SeanBruschi54]

BB was supposed to be the genius who would come up with a plan to stop the MVP. He did not.

The Pats' red zone D was supposed to limit the Chargers scoring. They did not.

The only answer BB had was nothing... well except for the following:
Eric Parker's atrocious performance, Clinton Hart's horrible hands, Quentin Jammer's 1 bad play... oh And Troy Brown for saving his butt.

Other than that, the Chargers O-line pushed that vaunted front 7 around. Seymour did nothing all day - he was more or less manhandled by a rookie.

But this Chargers team will rebound next year. And the Pats are coming to SD in the regular season, I think.

So that one should be really, really fun.

I'll be back then too.

Couldnt stop LT, yup your correct.

Patriots Red Zone D was perfect. You had the ball at least 9 times in our side of the field and only came away with 21 points. They held the best offense in the league perfectly.

Ignores the rest of this.....


seymour was taken out my McNeil, Mamumaleuna (sp?) and that left guard all day. He was beaten by one guy at any point.

 

[Oswlek]

BB was supposed to be the genius who would come up with a plan to stop the MVP. He did not.

The Pats' red zone D was supposed to limit the Chargers scoring. They did not.

The only answer BB had was nothing... well except for the following:
Eric Parker's atrocious performance, Clinton Hart's horrible hands, Quentin Jammer's 1 bad play... oh And Troy Brown for saving his butt.

Other than that, the Chargers O-line pushed that vaunted front 7 around. Seymour did nothing all day - he was more or less manhandled by a rookie.

But this Chargers team will rebound next year. And the Pats are coming to SD in the regular season, I think.

So that one should be really, really fun.

I'll be back then too.

The Charger's OL was good, but it was LDT that made them look better than they were. I still think that he is the best RB I have ever seen. IMHO, Tomlinson probably doubled the yardage that almost any other RB in the league would have gotten with the same blocking. He is unreal. I honestly believe that had SD given him 5-10 more carries that SD wins the game rather comfortably.

The Pat's red zone D was not good, but you are missing a huge point. Namely the fact that SD averaged starting on their 40 yard line and only got into the RZ three times! NE's D was very good in this game.

I think the Pats were as surprised as I was at how well the Chargers' secondary played. NE certainly neutralized SD's vaunted pass rush.

 

[BradfordPatsFan]

BB was supposed to be the genius who would come up with a plan to stop the MVP. He did not.

The Pats' red zone D was supposed to limit the Chargers scoring. They did not.

The only answer BB had was nothing... well except for the following:
Eric Parker's atrocious performance, Clinton Hart's horrible hands, Quentin Jammer's 1 bad play... oh And Troy Brown for saving his butt.

Other than that, the Chargers O-line pushed that vaunted front 7 around. Seymour did nothing all day - he was more or less manhandled by a rookie.

But this Chargers team will rebound next year. And the Pats are coming to SD in the regular season, I think.

So that one should be really, really fun.

I'll be back then too.

The Bolts had a short field all day and ONLY scored 3 td's. The highest scoring offense should be able to do better than that.

The game next year is back here. I smell a Sunday night game.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

The Bolts had a short field all day and ONLY scored 3 td's. The highest scoring offense should be able to do better than that.

The game next year is back here. I smell a Sunday night game.

I smell a thursday season opener game.

 

[nickelbolt]

The Charger's OL was good, but it was LDT that made them look better than they were. I still think that he is the best RB I have ever seen. IMHO, Tomlinson probably doubled the yardage that almost any other RB in the league would have gotten with the same blocking. He is unreal. I honestly believe that had SD given him 5-10 more carries that SD wins the game rather comfortably.

The Pat's red zone D was not good, but you are missing a huge point. Namely the fact that SD averaged starting on their 40 yard line and only got into the RZ three times! NE's D was very good in this game.

I think the Pats were as surprised as I was at how well the Chargers' secondary played. NE certainly neutralized SD's vaunted pass rush.

A lot of those "stops" were killed by easy passes that were dropped. I counted 7 drops that were nothing more than lack of execution on the Chargers' part. There were a couple caused by NE defenders. And yes, I think LT should have had the ball in his hands on our second to last drive. Can't believe PR thought it was a good idea to throw to Parker again.

Rivers had a couple of bad decisions, but I thought the NE defense never really limited what the offense could do. The offense killed itself.

Hey, no worries. You guys won. That's fine. I just don't wanna hear people saying that BB came up with some great strategy. And I thought Brady looked as bad as he has in a long time. Except, of course, for the one big throw over Jammer.

I take this away as some solice: At least we didn't lose playing "Martyball"... but the old codger will probably take the fall anyway.

 

[DallasPatsFan]

Iverson, I remember when Ditka put the fridge in for that touchdown in the Superbowl. Not only was it classless but he denied one of the most classy and respected players in football, Walter Payton, his only chance to score a touchdown in a Superbowl. Bad as I hate to see anyone score on the Pats, it should have been Payton, not Perry.

 

[PatsDeb]

HAHAHAHA!! This coming from the coach of the 1985 Bears, who couldn't have mocked the 1985 Pats any more if they tried (remember Jim McMahon going around New Orleans drunk the day before the Superbowl with a "PATRIOTS SUCK" shirt on?)!! What a joke. Go home Mike, you're senile.

 

[Patriotic Fervor]

BB was supposed to be the genius who would come up with a plan to stop the MVP. He did not.

The Pats' red zone D was supposed to limit the Chargers scoring. They did not.

The only answer BB had was nothing... well except for the following:
Eric Parker's atrocious performance, Clinton Hart's horrible hands, Quentin Jammer's 1 bad play... oh And Troy Brown for saving his butt.

Other than that, the Chargers O-line pushed that vaunted front 7 around. Seymour did nothing all day - he was more or less manhandled by a rookie.

But this Chargers team will rebound next year. And the Pats are coming to SD in the regular season, I think.

So that one should be really, really fun.

I'll be back then too.

No, he just won the game.

Well, you've got to admit, they limited them to fewer points than their opponent!

All I know is, we're playing next week, and you guys are not. Not bad for a coach who did nothing!

And remember - always remember - winners keep playing, losers keep whining. Anyone can win with "class". It's losing that really reveals the soul. And until your guys learn the art of losing with the same degree of aplomb as they do winning, you'll probably never know that championship feeling.

Well, how about your vaunted "D" guys? Merriman, he of untold class, kinda disappeared after falling on Brady after a thrown pass attempt and doing his little jig. And there he was, sucking oxygen in the 2nd quarter! Against an "inferior opponent", and after a bye week! Amazing!

Yes, they doubtless will. And we'll see how well they do it, won't we?

You do that. We'll jump all over you again then, too.

Enjoy the looooong, agonizing off-season!

 

[vyrago]

Putting a DT on the field to score while leaving one of the best RBs of all time on the bench......class.

Recording a video about how your team will win the SB in the middle of the playoffs.....class.

And...wearing a dreadlock wig after drafting Ricky Williams having traded multiple picks to move up--Priceless.

 

[alamo]

I smell a thursday season opener game.

The Chargers come to Foxboro next year, so if we can go on to be the champs this is a virtual certainty.

 

[NYCPatsFan]

I can only hope that we meet the Bears in the Superbowl, ... Pats up big, 1st and goal from the one, I have just the man for the job........

I agree with your dislike for him but isn't the word "Superbowl" banished from the Pats kingdom unless we come to it? We first need to play and win against a relatively unknown team called the Colts at their home... One game at a time. I know you said you are hoping, so please don't take my comments too seriously.

I got irritated with him before the Jets game when he claimed based on his neurological reports that the Jets are inside the Pats mind. Good call Doc. From then on, I stopped listening to what he has to say about the Pats.

Also, on Cold Pizza this morning (I know, what am I doing watching that show - but it is a holiday), one of the commentators said that LT was right on about BB being classless because of how BB treated EM. I could not help laughing at his ignorance. Pity the viewers like me who had to listen to him. I promptly started watching the weather channel.

 

[Patriotic Fervor]

I agree with your dislike for him but isn't the word "Superbowl" banished from the Pats kingdom unless we come to it? We first need to play and win against a relatively unknown team called the Colts at their home... One game at a time. I know you said you are hoping, so please don't take my comments too seriously.

I got irritated with him before the Jets game when he claimed based on his neurological reports that the Jets are inside the Pats mind. Good call Doc. From then on, I stopped listening to what he has to say about the Pats.

Also, on Cold Pizza this morning (I know, what am I doing watching that show - but it is a holiday), one of the commentators said that LT was right on about BB being classless because of how BB treated EM. I could not help laughing at his ignorance. Pity the viewers like me who had to listen to him. I promptly started watching the weather channel.

That's my favorite channel!