Mayo's saccharine SJW approach includes 'bro hugs' for the media

[Steve102]

Honestly wish McDaniel was our coach. The man knows offense, just what we need.

I am inclined to take a very big wait and see on Mayo. McDaniel is fun, I agree, but until he wins, you know, a playoff game or two, I am going to hold up on him being the next great thing. I think right now, he's a fun, marketable personality. Let's see how he is when a couple of his WRs get hurt and he's exposed.

 

[203Pat]

I think McDaniel is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY overrated as a coach. He's got a lot of shiny toys to play with on offense, but still couldn't manage a win in the playoffs. I think he got exposed down the stretch. While his approach makes for fun Hard Knocks viewing, I am not so sure it translates into winning football.

Watching Hard Knocks, the one thing that struck me was him, running off the field celebrating after scoring a TD at the half as time expired, and then remembered "Oh, extra point!". The HC has got to stay under control and prepare the rest of the team, players and staff alike, for situations that will happen. Bill used to excel at that. I think McDaniel is fun to watch, when he messes with fans "we are gonna run the ball" and all that, but he doesn't have the ice in his veins when the chips are down. Not yet anyway.

I think people said the same things about McVay until he won.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

I run an M&A firm and regularly help owners acquire, exit, succession plan, etc. I also regularly acquire businesses myself so obviously leadership style and methodology is a major part of my day-day.

I mentioned my age at the top because I’m part of the so-called “sandwich generation” …we remember life pre-digital, and early childhood was similar to Gen X, but we also were the first to use technology natively as it advanced. We also had a lot of interaction/influence from Boomer parents, and even their parents.

We are a hair old to be millennials, but have some combo of their traits mixed with Gen X and even some Boomer mixed in.

We are also raising Gen Z or Gen alpha kids who are fascinating in and of themselves.

All this to say the one thing I consistently see effective leaders do is be fluid and adaptable in approach to whomever they are leading.

Some standards are set in stone…but the way you say something, or the way you interact varies by the age, background and personality.

Even BB who I believe was the greatest HC of all time sometimes adapted his style for certain players .

Unfortunately, his old-school hardass ways (especially around social media and what players can/can’t say publicly) doesn’t work well anymore.

It isn’t that players/employees won’t work hard…it’s that they have to understand WHY and how it will lead to success.

I don’t lead a 67 YO man the same way I lead a 22 yo woman.

I greet folks with anything from a bro hug, to a firm handshake, to a fist bump or even head nod. It depends on the person.

What WOULDN’T work, is trying to get BB 2.0 when even BB himself wasn’t reaching players all that well anymore.

See where it goes and judge the results not the methods.

 

[Kdo5]

I am inclined to take a very big wait and see on Mayo. McDaniel is fun, I agree, but until he wins, you know, a playoff game or two, I am going to hold up on him being the next great thing. I think right now, he's a fun, marketable personality. Let's see how he is when a couple of his WRs get hurt and he's exposed.

I like Mayo and am excited to see what he can do. Also like McDaniel.

 

[condon84]

I don't care if they get Joya Powell to perform dance activism to hype up the team or get RuPaul to come in and talk about her life as a transgender, if they win games and get to the playoffs it's all good.

 

[oldrover]

Don’t think you have to be a strict disciplinarian to be a good HC. Andy Reid isn’t a harda$$, and is a top five all time coach. Let’s see how he does… if in 2 years we’ve seen nada, THEN we can…

 

[Water Boy]

Dear Patriots Fans,

The 2024 Patriots are committed to diversity and inclusion. The locker room will be a safe space for players, and free of toxic masculinity and dog whistles like "do your job".

Sincerely,

Coach Jerod Mayo
He/Him

 

[203Pat]

I run an M&A firm and regularly help owners acquire, exit, succession plan, etc. I also regularly acquire businesses myself so obviously leadership style and methodology is a major part of my day-day.

I mentioned my age at the top because I’m part of the so-called “sandwich generation” …we remember life pre-digital, and early childhood was similar to Gen X, but we also were the first to use technology natively as it advanced. We also had a lot of interaction/influence from Boomer parents, and even their parents.

We are a hair old to be millennials, but have some combo of their traits mixed with Gen X and even some Boomer mixed in.

We are also raising Gen Z or Gen alpha kids who are fascinating in and of themselves.

All this to say the one thing I consistently see effective leaders do is be fluid and adaptable in approach to whomever they are leading.

Some standards are set in stone…but the way you say something, or the way you interact varies by the age, background and personality.

Even BB who I believe was the greatest HC of all time sometimes adapted his style for certain players .

Unfortunately, his old-school hardass ways (especially around social media and what players can/can’t say publicly) doesn’t work well anymore.

It isn’t that players/employees won’t work hard…it’s that they have to understand WHY and how it will lead to success.

I don’t lead a 67 YO man the same way I lead a 22 yo woman.

I greet folks with anything from a bro hug, to a firm handshake, to a fist bump or even head nod. It depends on the person.

What WOULDN’T work, is trying to get BB 2.0 when even BB himself wasn’t reaching players all that well anymore.

See where it goes and judge the results not the methods.

Couldn't agree more. I mentioned the "Why?" part in my post before and that is something I have come to realize working as a director in the tech industry that this new generation wants to understand the ask, the reason, the goal, and how it all contributes to the bigger picture. It is basically a polar opposite from the "Do your job" philosophy which is basically don't worry about anything around you just worry about what you're told to do. You need to tailor your approach based on who you're talking to. It is just a necessity in the same way if I am interviewing a candidate for a job and they seem like a home run hire then I flip the interview from them pitching me to me pitching them.

I am a millennial who was probably the last high school class to graduate (2005) before social media became a thing. I remember Myspace starting to appear right around the time I graduated but most people I know didn't have one till a year or so later then obviously not long after that the Facebook boom and the iPhone came out and basically changed the course of history from a sociology standpoint. A good chunk of Gen Z has grown up with almost their entire lives documented. From their parents having a camera in their pocket 24 hours a day to digitally recording every moment of their own lives on social media from at least, middle school on, they are much more connected to the world around them. When you grow up in a fishbowl with access to any bit of information ready for your command in seconds it is reasonable to know why Gen Z needs to understand an ask.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Couldn't agree more. I mentioned the "Why?" part in my post before and that is something I have come to realize working as a director in the tech industry that this new generation wants to understand the ask, the reason, the goal, and how it all contributes to the bigger picture. It is basically a polar opposite from the "Do your job" philosophy which is basically don't worry about anything around you just worry about what you're told to do. You need to tailor your approach based on who you're talking to. It is just a necessity in the same way if I am interviewing a candidate for a job and they seem like a home run hire then I flip the interview from them pitching me to me pitching them.

I am a millennial who was probably the last high school class to graduate (2005) before social media became a thing. I remember Myspace starting to appear right around the time I graduated but most people I know didn't have one till a year or so later then obviously not long after that the Facebook boom and the iPhone came out and basically changed the course of history from a sociology standpoint. A good chunk of Gen Z has grown up with almost their entire lives documented. From their parents having a camera in their pocket 24 hours a day to digitally recording every moment of their own lives on social media from at least, middle school on, they are much more connected to the world around them. When you grow up in a fishbowl with access to any but of information ready for your command in seconds it is reasonable to know why Gen Z needs to understand an ask.

Well said.

 

[borg]

The HC has never called plays in a NFL game
The DC has never called plays in a NFL game

 

[denverpatsfan]

The HC has never called plays in a NFL game
The DC has never called plays in a NFL game

Neither had Fat Matt but everyone thought that was ok...

 

[Lavictoire]

This would be funnier if it had more diversity.

 

[Real fan 02]

I think McDaniel is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY overrated as a coach. He's got a lot of shiny toys to play with on offense, but still couldn't manage a win in the playoffs. I think he got exposed down the stretch. While his approach makes for fun Hard Knocks viewing, I am not so sure it translates into winning football.

Watching Hard Knocks, the one thing that struck me was him, running off the field celebrating after scoring a TD at the half as time expired, and then remembered "Oh, extra point!". The HC has got to stay under control and prepare the rest of the team, players and staff alike, for situations that will happen. Bill used to excel at that. I think McDaniel is fun to watch, when he messes with fans "we are gonna run the ball" and all that, but he doesn't have the ice in his veins when the chips are down. Not yet anyway.

Yes, he has 2 burners on the outside another burner in the backfield at RB. By far he has the fastest offense in the NFL. What I've noticed is the players love him! But to your point he's not a run first team.

They got off to a great start last season, but tailed off ad the season wore on.

 

[Real fan 02]

The HC has never called plays in a NFL game
The DC has never called plays in a NFL game

The HC was drafted by the GOAT, the HC played LB at an all pro level under the GOAT, the HC coached a dam good defense under the GOAT... the HC has championship pedigree as a player and a coach a wealth of knowledge from the GOAT.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

Based on reading advertisements for lots of colleges not too long ago college marketing departments find it absolutely critical to advertise their efforts on diversity and social justice. Since players are a similar age it makes sense to me. That's apparently how you connect with this age demographic.

DEI's genesis was in the universities, but Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street, et al., made it mainstream by pushing it on companies they have a major stake in (which shockingly, is almost 100% of S&P 500 firms). It's corporate, top-down. These companies need to meet DEI benchmarks or executives will find themselves looking for work. This is why you see it everywhere, all it once.

 

[signbabybrady]

DEI's genesis was in the universities, but Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street, et al., made it mainstream by pushing it on companies they have a major stake in (which shockingly, is almost 100% of S&P 500 firms). It's corporate, top-down. These companies need to meet DEI benchmarks or executives will find themselves looking for work. This is why you see it everywhere, all it once.

Are there enough diverse people for this to work with %100 of the fortune 500s?

 

[Real fan 02]

To me, Ian, the bottom line is most players need a push beyond their comfort zone to excel. And for that to happen, they invariably must become motivated to do things they normally wouldn't on their own. In other words, "be made uncomfortable" for the good of the team. This is where coaching makes the essential difference. Perhaps that effort can come from wanting to please a coach who has demonstrated caring for you as a person vs. obeying a taskmaster, but it's human nature to resist having one's limits challenged.



I don't believe the Dolphins are mentally tough and that's on McDaniel. Seeing them fold in the cold vs. Kansas City was telltale.

While your not wrong. That approach worked with the Brady generation of players. Not this generation as we've seen personally with Mac. You can very easily ruin a players confidence by the hard ass coaching model. Not saying you have to take guys by hand ,but have to understand that mental health is real. It has a lasting effect on everything in a player. Look at JC Jackson. Just my thoughts.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

Are there enough diverse people for this to work with %100 of the fortune 500s?

It depends what you mean by "work." You can certainly mandate that 50% of your engineering staff be women. But bad things are probably going to happen, because far fewer women go into engineering disciplines than men. Instead of getting the best 5% of the available pool, now you are forced to take a higher % of female candidates, regardless of their level of competence. It works the other way too: the HR field is dominated by women, but if you mandate equality, then you are scraping the bottom of the barrel to fill those positions with men. Similar issues with hiring by race, etc. Once competence stops being the main criteria for hiring, planes start falling out of the sky, eventually.

 

[Pape]

I cannot wait to see exactly how this team performs under the new Mayo regime.

aye, me too

 

[signbabybrady]

It depends what you mean by "work." You can certainly mandate that 50% of your engineering staff be women. But bad things are probably going to happen, because far fewer women go into engineering disciplines than men. Instead of getting the best 5% of the available pool, now you are forced to take a higher % of female candidates, regardless of their level of competence. It works the other way too: the HR field is dominated by women, but if you mandate equality, then you are scraping the bottom of the barrel to fill those positions with men. Similar issues with hiring by race, etc. Once competence stops being the main criteria for hiring, planes start falling out of the sky, eventually.

I was not thinking ability but I also was not thinking women. Thx for your response. Seems like men and women need to start getting better at jobs they don't typically want.