Mavs/Lakers Trade - Luka for Davis

[ViperGTS]

It's a neutral trade for both teams IMO. Lakers have no defense now. Bron is old, and I doubt Luka is a draw for anyone in the NBA to be honest.

 

[JayNM]

It's a neutral trade for both teams IMO. Lakers have no defense now. Bron is old, and I doubt Luka is a draw for anyone in the NBA to be honest.

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Seriously???????????

 

[NE_Zealot]

This is a move you make before you move a team. Nuke your fanbase, I think their new owners are in the casino biz. Las Vegas Mavericks in 2027. Trade makes no sense, giving away a top 3 player in the league for an older injury-prone AD and one first round pick (2029 at that). This trade is so bad the Madden video game would block it and it’s not even the same sport. David Stern would’ve laughed at it

 

[imahobgoblin]

I read that Luka told the Mavs he was not going to sign his supermax and wanted to take his services elsewhere. So the Mavs traded him while they could at least get something out of it. That makes the most sense to me.

 

[Kdo5]

I read that Luka told the Mavs he was not going to sign his supermax and wanted to take his services elsewhere. So the Mavs traded him while they could at least get something out of it. That makes the most sense to me.

Nonsense to me. Luka isn’t turning down the super max. Dallas is a good market, good team, was just in the finals. Judging by what has been reported and what he said he didn’t want this.

He wasn’t turning it down.

 

[ViperGTS]

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Seriously???????????

Ummm yeah. So you have a dude who was winded in the second half of Finals games. You have AD who is very injury prone.

Where exactly am I wrong? Hell I'm more of a fan of AD than overrated Luka.

The people who think this was a horrendous trade, well you don't know ball. Hell its why I put Tatum AND Brown over Luka. Highly overrated, doesn't play any defense. The fact thats all they got for him is a major tell. People in the league who aren't the fawning media know a hell of a lot better. As do NBA front offices.

 

[JayNM]

Ummm yeah. So you have a dude who was winded in the second half of Finals games. You have AD who is very injury prone.

Where exactly am I wrong? Hell I'm more of a fan of AD than overrated Luka.

The people who think this was a horrendous trade, well you don't know ball. Hell its why I put Tatum AND Brown over Luka. Highly overrated, doesn't play any defense. The fact thats all they got for him is a major tell. People in the league who aren't the fawning media know a hell of a lot better. As do NBA front offices.

I'll just say that 99% of the people I've talked to/read, outside the Boston area, and that definitely know ball (Not even including myself) are disagreeing with you

but hey, alright

 

[NE_Zealot]

listening to a Mavs podcast it sounds like the GM legit thinks AD gets them closer to a title. The return still makes no sense to me however unless there is another shoe about to drop. But why help the MFin Lakers by trading them a 25 YO guy that can be their future? There weren’t any other suitors??

 

[Guts]

listening to a Mavs podcast it sounds like the GM legit thinks AD gets them closer to a title. The return still makes no sense to me however unless there is another shoe about to drop. But why help the MFin Lakers by trading them a 25 YO guy that can be their future? There weren’t any other suitors??

He only talked to the Lakers
Terrible GM

 

[ViperGTS]

I'll just say that 99% of the people I've talked to/read, outside the Boston area, and that definitely know ball (Not even including myself) are disagreeing with you

but hey, alright

Thats because they are deluded into thinking Luka is some magical player. Newsflash, he isn't. He is all shine and people fall for that all the time. Have you talked to GMs? Team ownership?

Didn't think so. For the record neither have I but it's extremely telling that the return was what it was. I wouldn't have traded Jaylen or Tatum in a package for that tub of goo. Highest I would go would be White and some filler. He's such a liability on defense, gets hunted left and right. He's almost a net neutral guy. Helps as much as he hurts. Sure he might score 40, but he will give up 30.

Yay.

 

[ViperGTS]

He only talked to the Lakers
Terrible GM

No, there is a report out there they had another trade offer last week that they turned down. People are losing their minds over this. There are so many other players that I would say WTF if they were traded like this. SGA, Wemby, Tatum, Brown. A guy who I could see traded in some fashion like this is Ant. That dude unless he changes is mental viewpoint is a cancer on a locker room. He's a much better player than Luka thats for sure, but has some major red flags.

 

[ErniesPinkStripes]

LukaLaker will be interesting.. of course LA gets another superstar handed to them

AD is a good player but jeez. Dallas completely screwed their fanbase over and will Kyrie/AD really work to give you a title run in the short term? Doubtful

 

[aluminum seats]

there is a report out there they had another trade offer last week that they turned down.

Link? Because I’ve heard that there was literally no shopping around at all

Surprised to see some defenders here of this trade, kudos to everyone for putting out their opinions. I guess we’ll see in a few years

To get myself on the record, I think it’s pretty indefensible that they didn’t seem to shop around, unless they only had eyes for Davis, which seems weird. And I think ultimately this will be shown to be a horrifically bad trade for Dallas

 

[Guts]

Link? Because I’ve heard that there was literally no shopping around at all

Surprised to see some defenders here of this trade, kudos to everyone for putting out their opinions. I guess we’ll see in a few years

To get myself on the record, I think it’s pretty indefensible that they didn’t seem to shop around, unless they only had eyes for Davis, which seems weird. And I think ultimately this will be shown to be a horrifically bad trade for Dallas

Only way it turns out to be a possible C grade is if AD wins a chip for them lol

 

[PP2]

I'm probably in the minority but I am siding with Dallas. Yes, right now Luka is a prolific scorer but players who get fat and out of shape in the offseason and have weight fluctuation typically have careers that suddenly fall off the cliff.

That time is not now, but the day is coming. And it won't take much; a severe sprain or something like that, for his game to seriously suffer.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

To get myself on the record, I think it’s pretty indefensible that they didn’t seem to shop around, unless they only had eyes for Davis, which seems weird. And I think ultimately this will be shown to be a horrifically bad trade for Dallas

Apparently, per TV in DFW, that is in fact what happened when Hamilton was working at Nike.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I'm probably in the minority but I am siding with Dallas. Yes, right now Luka is a prolific scorer but players who get fat and out of shape in the offseason and have weight fluctuation typically have careers that suddenly fall off the cliff.

That time is not now, but the day is coming. And it won't take much; a severe sprain or something like that, for his game to seriously suffer.

Trading Luka made a ton of sense on the Mavs side. I don't blame them for trading him. If they thought he was "salvageable" they wouldn't have done the deal.

The issue people have is the return.

But here is the thing....would LA have given up multiple 1st and Davis if Luka was in elite physical shape, practiced hard, committed to playing D, and didn't have chronic ankle and knee issues?....they sure would have.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

The Celts destroyed the Mavs in the finals. If they pay Luca supermax money what flexibility would they have since the Mavs have to cover for Luca's no defense.

Fans always look at offense. Look at Harden for example when he was 26. Useless. Didn't play D. Scored a ton. Out of shape, out of breath, useless in the playoffs.

The only reason to hate this trade is Davis' age. Hard to trade a 26 year old for a 32 year old.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

Dallas simply did not want to give Luca a supermax deal and the concerns about his conditioning, legs, and defense are warranted.

Yep. I think in 3-4 years the Mavs are going to look like geniuses. Luka isn't getting any younger, and conditioning is essential to staying healthy and being a consistent performer into the playoffs. Imagine how good he'd be if he got in shape and played both ends of the court?

 

[RobertWeathers]

Yep. I think in 3-4 years the Mavs are going to look like geniuses. Luka isn't getting any younger, and conditioning is essential to staying healthy and being a consistent performer into the playoffs. Imagine how good he'd be if he got in shape and played both ends of the court?

I can see not being an elite defender. HoFs like Magic played D at a passable level. I get it. But Magic was always in great shape and played hard.

But his lack of conditioning and ****ty D during the Finals was so glaring....and he quit. coward.

The Mavs hoped he would make more of a commitment. He didn't and hes gone and the $345m he was going to get.