Mac Jones Through 2 Games (2021 vs 2022 vs 2023) By QTR and Redzone Totals

[PatsFan2]

Do you think the patchwork O-line is limiting the types of plays they can call?

Most Definitely I don't think OCBOB was expecting this he'll be here for long time OC-Only if that's the case. Can't see him getting any possible HC Interviews if this goes South.

 

[sb1]

Most Definitely I don't think OCBOB was expecting this he'll be here for long time OC-Only if that's the case. Can't see him getting any possible HC Interviews if this goes South.

He's here as long as BB is here imo. A new head coach might want his own staff especially if the new coach has a change in philosophy on offense.

 

[Pats2000]

Posted this a few minutes ago on Twitter and figured I'd share it here:


Mac Jones Through 2 Games (2021 vs 2022 vs 2023)
Totals (By QTR)
and RedZone)

2021: Total: 51/69 (73.9%) 467yds 1 TD
Q1: 14/15 (93.3%) 106yds
Q2: 17/25 (68%) 169yds 1TD
Q3: 10/14 (71.4%) 138yds
Q4: 10/15 (66.7%) 54yds
Redzone 3/6 (50%) 13yds 1TD

2022: Total: 42/65 (64.6%) 465yds 2TDs 2INTs
Q1: 11/16 (68.8%) 102yds 2 INTs
Q2: 8/13 (61.5%) 128yds 1 TD
Q3: 14/19 (73.7%) 123yds 1TD
Q4: 9/17 (52.9%) 112yds
Redzone 3/5 (60%) 13yds 1TD

2023: Total: 66/96 (68.8%) 547yds 4TDs 2INTs
Q1: 11/16 (68.8%) 67yds 1 INT
Q2: 20/26 (76.9%) 170yds 2 TDs
Q3: 10/16 (62.5%) 68yds 1 INT
Q4: 25/38 (65.8%) 242yds 2 TDs
Redzone: 5/7 (71.4%) 56yds 4TDs

He's actually off to his best start in his three seasons, statistically.

Turnovers are killing us, and Mac not finishing out opportunities at the end of the game.

 

[archstanton543]

Turnovers are killing us, and Mac not finishing out opportunities at the end of the game.

How so? Booty and the refs kills those last minute drives. Not Mac.

 

[Pape]

The similarities to Fat Matt Offense is just erie.

that is incorrect. The offensive play calling, and the timing of the play calls, is much improved... There are still issues that need to be worked out... however - everyone should be happier with BoB calling the shots vs the Rocketman...

 

[borg]

I sort of look at it as, they're going to figure that out since those quarters tend to be scripted.

0 TDs in those "scripted" quarters
The team didn't figure it out in '22 either.
Common denominator is______________?

If they do, O'Brien has already done a good job adjusting to whatever the defense is giving them, because based on the numbers, the production has been there. So there's at least a reason to be hopeful.

And when defenses finally decide to end the "bend" strategy, Mac and company get swallowed up.
Miami did the same thing to the Chargers at the end of the game.
People lampoon the Charger coach and Herbert.....a combination that managed 34 pts against the meh Dolphins D.
NE scores 17 at home vs the Fish and Mac and O'Brien are "on the verge"

No...the production has not been there.

 

[Pape]

Do you think the patchwork O-line is limiting the types of plays they can call?

Its not limiting the play calls... It is impacting the end results of the plays... too many aren't ending up with positive yardage... The line is not performing as well as it can... and when you combine that with macs lack of pocket awareness (at times) it leads to too many 3 and outs, which often grant the opposing team superior field position

 

[archstanton543]

0 TDs in those "scripted" quarters
The team didn't figure it out in '22 either.
Common denominator is______________?

Bad coaching?

And when defenses finally decide to end the "bend" strategy, Mac and company get swallowed up.

The stays don't bear that out.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

That may take a very long time. Are we fans ok with that?

It may take a long time or it could take 1 year.

We may also never win a playoff game with Mac Jones. Are fans ok with that?

It’s a good QB class next year. Drafting a QB next year would be good business.

 

[sb1]

It may take a long time or it could take 1 year.

We may also never win a playoff game with Mac Jones. Are fans ok with that?

It’s a good QB class next year. Drafting a QB next year would be good business.

Much more likely a long time, otherwise teams like the Bills wouldn't have been waiting 25 years for their guy and waste 1st round draft picks on JP Losman, and EJ Manuel. It's very hard to find one.

Pats are drafting a QB next year no matter what. BB has done that almost every year even when Brady was here.

 

[archstanton543]

We may also never win a playoff game with Mac Jones. Are fans ok with that?

But what happens if we do. Are you okay with that?

 

[Rob0729]

Its not limiting the play calls... It is impacting the end results of the plays... too many aren't ending up with positive yardage... The line is not performing as well as it can... and when you combine that with macs lack of pocket awareness (at times) it leads to too many 3 and outs, which often grant the opposing team superior field position

This past Sunday, the Pats had only one three and out. They had three against the Eagles (four if you count their four and out). Two of them came in the first quarter and I think you can at least attribute some of that to the new season and figuring out the offense.

Overall Mac pocket awareness is fine. It was bad last year, but this year and his rookie season it was fine. Mac was under pressure 20-28 times week one depending on which service you use and he wasn't sacked and he only made one really costly mistake. This past weekend he had like a 120 QB rating while under pressure. And his sacks were because of blocking issues and the defender were on top of him immediately.

 

[PatsFan2]

This past Sunday, the Pats had only one three and out. They had three against the Eagles (four if you count their four and out). Two of them came in the first quarter and I think you can at least attribute some of that to the new season and figuring out the offense.

Overall Mac pocket awareness is fine. It was bad last year, but this year and his rookie season it was fine. Mac was under pressure 20-28 times week one depending on which service you use and he wasn't sacked and he only made one really costly mistake. This past weekend he had like a 120 QB rating while under pressure. And his sacks we because of blocking issues and the defender were on top of him immediately.

Saw some horrible Jail breaks last game at the Guard and Center positions at inopportune times.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

You just said anything more than 7 is compelling. 8, according to you, is.

Cute. Get into a semantics argument when the point is clear.

 

[archstanton543]

Cute. Get into a semantics argument when the point is clear.

You're the one who set the standard, my friend.

 

[Pape]

This past Sunday, the Pats had only one three and out. They had three against the Eagles (four if you count their four and out). Two of them came in the first quarter and I think you can at least attribute some of that to the new season and figuring out the offense.

Overall Mac pocket awareness is fine. It was bad last year, but this year and his rookie season it was fine. Mac was under pressure 20-28 times week one depending on which service you use and he wasn't sacked and he only made one really costly mistake. This past weekend he had like a 120 QB rating while under pressure. And his sacks were because of blocking issues and the defender were on top of him immediately.

i was going to expand on the three and outs, but i didnt, my bad... 3 and outs, sacks, ints, etc... I am expecting those 3 and outs to drop, as we have a better o scheme with BoB... but its not all sunshine and fairy farts yet... so, you are right, only 1 in the miami game... in the 4th quarter - incomplete pass, sack for -10, incomplete pass...

right when it matters most.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

You're the one who set the standard, my friend.

Could you show me where I claimed 8 passing attempts is a large enough sample size to be significant? As you know (but are dishonestly using an ambiguous answer to mean what it does not mean), my response of “more than 7” passing red zone passing attempts did not suggest that 8 passing attempts is a large enough sample size either.

Mac is averaging 4.86 adjusted net yards passing/ attempt, a stat that I’ve used as my big measuring stick (to at least start somewhere) for years. Look at the regression. This is far below starter level.



Even taking out the sacks, he’s averaging 5.4 yards/attempt, also well below starter level.

This strongly suggests his red zone stats are simply an anomaly. A sample size of just 7 attempts. Statistical noise. Red zone passing is almost correlated with overall passing, and to “prove” that he has made some sort of weird “red zone improvement” during his overall passing regression is going to require a hell of a lot of examples, sustained over time, well beyond 7 attempts over two games.

 

[Pape]

and to “prove” that he has made some sort of weird “red zone improvement” during his overall passing regression is going to require a hell of a lot of examples, sustained over time, well beyond 7 attempts over two games.

so, like, 9 attempts then?







lol, sorry Ice, i apologize, i just couldn't resist...

 

[archstanton543]

Could you show me where I claimed 8 passing attempts is a large enough sample size to be significant? As you know (but are dishonestly using an ambiguous answer to mean what it does not mean), my response of “more than 7” passing red zone passing attempts did not suggest that 8 passing attempts is a large enough sample size either.

Mac is averaging 4.86 adjusted net yards passing/ attempt, a stat that I’ve used as my big measuring stick (to at least start somewhere) for years. Look at the regression. This is far below starter level.



Even taking out the sacks, he’s averaging 5.4 yards/attempt, also well below starter level.

This strongly suggests his red zone stats are simply an anomaly. A sample size of just 7 attempts. Statistical noise. Red zone passing is almost correlated with overall passing, and to “prove” that he has made some sort of weird “red zone improvement” during his overall passing regression is going to require a hell of a lot of examples, sustained over time, well beyond 7 attempts over two games.

I asked how many more passes.

You answered more than 7.

Last time I checkeded 8 > 7.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I asked how many more passes.

You answered more than 7.

Last time I checkeded 8 > 7.

I didn’t realize you’re an Andy/Showtime15 type of poster. This is the last time I’ll waste my time reading one of your posts.