Let's Put An End To the Maroney Madness(X3 Merged)

[danny88]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Let's see, 13-0. Does that hold water? How many teams have gone 13-0? (It's not many).

What does thirteen and O have to do with Maroney looking like a bust at this point. Maroney has NOT done much to contribute to that thirteen and o record we have. Maroney was a highly coveted first round draft choice. He has NOT lived up to his expectations. Take the blinders off. If you cannot admit this kid is a weakness you are to much of a homer to admit anything.

All you want to do it talk about how great we are all the time. We are great. But Maroney is NOT great. It has been 31 games since he was drafted. What has he done? Nothing.

The only reason Woody had a good year was due to Marino. Maroney is going ot be the next Woody Bennett!!!! Bust.

 

[Grizzafted]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

************, are you people f*cking stupid?

Nobody's arguing the play calling, nobody's arguing the team's philosophy, nobody's arguing Pioli's draft prowess, nobody's arguing with 13-0, nobody's saying the Patriots aren't a physical team, and nobody's saying they can't run the ball. They're one of the better rushing teams in the league.

But Maroney isn't a feature back. That's the message here. When teams go crazy with their passing game, their feature back should also have a good season. On that list, it was clear that it's possible. Or is the argument now that Woody Bennett's career is what we can expect out of Maroney? Woo. Hoo.

Maybe you could do a little research and see that the only decent season Bennett ever had was a direct result of Marino's season.

 

[RayClay]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

What the hell does 13-0 have to do with the discussion about a 1st Rd running back that obviously isn't considered GOOD ENOUGH to take carries away from the passing game when EVERYONE and their grandmother knows a true STUD like LT, LJ, McGahee, and others WOULD be good enough to get more involved in the gameplan? Hey, I applaud the Pats for passing every down. I don't even want to see Maroney's bum can on the field. He sucks. I just assume put his can on the shelf for the rest of the year. He is useless anyway. I do, however, think it is fair to call this kid out for absolutely, positively NOT living upto his 1st rd draft pick. Because if he was GOOD ENOUGH he would warrant more carries in this offense and our offense would be even better!!!

I'm sorry, I thought the object was to win games.

I was pretty happy with the three touchdown margin against Pitt, but I don't play fantasy football, I'm only about winning games.

 

[Grizzafted]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

With three games to go Maroney and Morris total 1034. Add in Faulk, Evans and Eckel and you're already in the bottom of your list.

Add three games, you're in the middle somewhere.

What have you proved? Only the ability to use the copy and paste function.

Dumbass, most of those teams also had #2 and 3 backs that rushed. The numbers go up if you include them. I only included the #1 and #2 guy in the 84 fins stats because they split the load.

You don't drop a 1st round pick on a guy who's going to split the load and look weaker than Sammy Morris.

 

[RayClay]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

************, are you people f*cking stupid?

Nobody's arguing the play calling, nobody's arguing the team's philosophy, nobody's arguing Pioli's draft prowess, nobody's arguing with 13-0, nobody's saying the Patriots aren't a physical team, and nobody's saying they can't run the ball. They're one of the better rushing teams in the league.

 

[danny88]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

I'm sorry, I thought the object was to win games.

I was pretty happy with the three touchdown margin against Pitt, but I don't play fantasy football, I'm only about winning games.

This is classic. Maroney is not a good rb right now.

 

[Grizzafted]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

another clear indication of his utter lack of comprehension skills, right before he hit his face with his coffee mug and cracked his teeth.

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[National Sports Advisors]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Another thing. Take these YPC stats and shove them where the sun doesn't shine. For cris sakes, you would have to have Antowain Smith in a wheelchair running the ball for someone NOT to average at least 4.0 YPC on this ridiculously good passing offense. Seriously. Everyone acting like Maroney's 4.2 YPC is so friggen great. The guy NEVER sees 8 men in the box. The guy gets plenty of draw plays to take advantage of a defense playing back for the pass. Matt Light, Logan Mankins, and Dan Koppen will probably all be playing in the pro bowl. Anyone who believes that they can't run block are sipping too much kool-aid.

 

[mdhprime]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

************, are you people f*cking stupid?

Nobody's arguing the play calling, nobody's arguing the team's philosophy, nobody's arguing Pioli's draft prowess, nobody's arguing with 13-0, nobody's saying the Patriots aren't a physical team, and nobody's saying they can't run the ball. They're one of the better rushing teams in the league.

But Maroney isn't a feature back. That's the message here. When teams go crazy with their passing game, their feature back should also have a good season. On that list, it was clear that it's possible. Or is the argument now that Woody Bennett's career is what we can expect out of Maroney? Woo. Hoo.

Maybe you could do a little research and see that the only decent season Bennett ever had was a direct result of Marino's season.

Maybe you should question yourself. You are judging a back who has barely been in the league long enough to leave any kind of mark and who plays in an offense that currently has no reason to run the ball at all. Not to mention the fact the this same back hit a rookie wall last year (as many do) was injured and is now relatively fresh going into the last few games of the year and the post season. Meanwhile you get off on calling everyone who takes a dim view of your limited and uninformed opinion stupid. Look to yourself and your idiotic analysis before calling someone else stupid. All you and the other posters who take your view do is bash the guy by comparing him to some of the greatest players to ever play and accuse him of failing to live up to your overblown and unrealistic expectations. Then you have fun by calling all of those who would simply like to give him a chance stupid. Thanks for playing, you can go home now.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Maybe you should question yourself. You are judging a back who has barely been in the league long enough to leave any kind of mark and who plays in an offense that currently has no reason to run the ball at all. Not to mention the fact the this same back hit a rookie wall last year (as many do) was injured and is now relatively fresh going into the last few games of the year and the post season. Meanwhile you get off on calling everyone who takes a dim view of your limited and uninformed opinion stupid. Look to yourself and your idiotic analysis before calling someone else stupid. All you and the other posters who take your view do is bash the guy by comparing him to some of the greatest players to ever play and accuse him of failing to live up to your overblown and unrealistic expectations. Then you have fun by calling all of those who would simply like to give him a chance stupid. Thanks for playing, you can go home now.

No reason? Have you ever thought that they have NO REASON because their running back sucks?? Do you think they would have NO REASON if LT, LJ, Peterson, or McGahee(among many others) was on this team? Puhleaze. Of course they have NO REASON to run. Who the hell wants them to run? I don't. I'd rather have Maroney NOT play at all than see him run his usual 8-10 crappy plays every game. The kid sucks, that's why we have NO REASON to run the ball.

 

[mdhprime]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

No reason? Have you ever thought that they have NO REASON because their running back sucks?? Do you think they would have NO REASON if LT, LJ, Peterson, or McGahee(among many others) was on this team? Puhleaze. Of course they have NO REASON to run. Who the hell wants them to run? I don't. I'd rather have Maroney NOT play at all than see him run his usual 8-10 crappy plays every game. The kid sucks, that's why we have NO REASON to run the ball.

For everyone sake please take the kindergarten level reasoning and go fingerpaint or something.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

For everyone sake please take the kindergarten level reasoning and go fingerpaint or something.

For everyone sake why don't you take the Maroney jersey off, put down the kool-aid, and stop making your pathetic and tiresome excuses. Ok junior?

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

No reason? Have you ever thought that they have NO REASON because their running back sucks?? Do you think they would have NO REASON if LT, LJ, Peterson, or McGahee(among many others) was on this team? Puhleaze. Of course they have NO REASON to run. Who the hell wants them to run? I don't. I'd rather have Maroney NOT play at all than see him run his usual 8-10 crappy plays every game. The kid sucks, that's why we have NO REASON to run the ball.

Exactly - Its like saying if you have no left arm and you want to go bowling you need to learn to use your right arm to throw the ball,you have no choice.

Well Maroney IS the missing left arm.

And he won't get any better - Some guys are not just stupid but delusional thinking Pioli and BB won't make mistakes in the draft,This apparently was a BIG one which may hurt in future years if they don't get a back who can actually run in this system

 

[Grizzafted]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Maybe you should question yourself. You are judging a back who has barely been in the league long enough to leave any kind of mark and who plays in an offense that currently has no reason to run the ball at all. Not to mention the fact the this same back hit a rookie wall last year (as many do) was injured and is now relatively fresh going into the last few games of the year and the post season. Meanwhile you get off on calling everyone who takes a dim view of your limited and uninformed opinion stupid. Look to yourself and your idiotic analysis before calling someone else stupid. All you and the other posters who take your view do is bash the guy by comparing him to some of the greatest players to ever play and accuse him of failing to live up to your overblown and unrealistic expectations. Then you have fun by calling all of those who would simply like to give him a chance stupid. Thanks for playing, you can go home now.

I gave him many chances. I was very excited about him before this year.

Things get a little out of hand when you try to explain your nuanced and reasonable opinion and it gets completely dumbed down into a straw man and thrown back at you. That's been the level of discourse on this issue. I gave up trying to be a grown up in these threads a while ago.

Laurence Maroney is a talented third down back who was a waste of a number 1 pick. He has a place on this team, after his rookie contract expires he'll sign a very reasonable deal and replace Kevin Faulk. In the meantime, Pioli and Belichick are going to find a #1 back either in a mid round pick or through free agency.

 

[ClevTrev]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

I'm sorry, I thought the object was to win games.

I was pretty happy with the three touchdown margin against Pitt, but I don't play fantasy football, I'm only about winning games.

RC, you hit the nail on the head. The anti-Maroney crowd seem to be frustrated fantasy football "experts." I laugh at the notion of fantasy football with many wannabe "GMs and coaches" carefully choosing their teams at the beginning of the season and suffering silently when the sure picks they made turn out to be something different. In many cases, the team either becomes diverse and uses a variety of players resulting in the player on their "team" scoring less or the player has an off year which results in the never ending whining of those who were so unfortunate to draft that player. That's what this is all about.

My experience is also that many fantasy football fanatics are people who never played the game and who actually think they can be successful coaches and GMs. It's through their vicarious experiences in fantasy football that they get to live out their dreams. Fantasy coaches and GMs, ha! What a freakin' world.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Exactly - Its like saying if you have no left arm and you want to go bowling you need to learn to use your right arm to throw the ball,you have no choice.

Well Maroney IS the missing left arm.

And he won't get any better - Some guys are not just stupid but delusional thinking Pioli and BB won't make mistakes in the draft,This apparently was a BIG one which may hurt in future years if they don't get a back who can actually run in this system

Exactly. According to the homers, Pioli and BB don't make mistakes. That's why Duane Starks, Monty Beisel, Bethel Johnson, Doug Gabriel, and JR Redmond never played here. That is all in our minds.

 

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

This is a dumb arguement. Maroney only got 8 carries. Steelers have a great run D. The Patriots are not going to play to their strengths.

 

[RayClay]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

RC, you hit the nail on the head. The anti-Maroney crowd seem to be frustrated fantasy football "experts." I laugh at the notion of fantasy football with many wannabe "GMs and coaches" carefully choosing their teams at the beginning of the season and suffering silently when the sure picks they made turn out to be something different. In many cases, the team either becomes diverse and uses a variety of players resulting in the player on their "team" scoring less or the player has an off year which results in the never ending whining of those who were so unfortunate to draft that player. That's what this is all about.

My experience is also that many fantasy football fanatics are people who never played the game and who actually think they can be successful coaches and GMs. It's through their vicarious experiences in fantasy football that they get to live out their dreams. Fantasy coaches and GMs, ha! What a freakin' world.

Fortunately for them, some coaches and GMs have patience and develop players.

Imagine the rag tag outfits that would exist if every team drafted only Wrs, RBs and QBs on day one, then cut them if they didn't have a pro bowl year out of the gate.

You don't win championships by discarding all your day one picks to replace them next year, while failing to draft other positions.

 

[Satchboogie3]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Drafting is all risk/reward. No team will ever draft all great players. It won't happen. The key is finding the best tallent for the cheapest price. Name 1 team that has had a better job drafting since 2000.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

This is a dumb arguement. Maroney only got 8 carries. Steelers have a great run D. The Patriots are not going to play to their strengths.

I don't even want Maroney to get 8 carries. In fact, I don't want to see him run at all. I am NOT asking for more carries from Maroney at all. He doesn't deserve them and he will not do anything with them. He sucks. Hey, my ex-girl looked the part, dressed the part, but flat out sucked in bed. That's why I upgraded her to something better. The same applies with LoMo. He looks the part, was drafted the part, but flat out sucks when it' showtime.