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Lee Smith and Alge Crumpler.

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Much apreciated. At this point in the tread it hard to tell what is flying your way.
 
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If the Pats switch to more 2 TE sets I could see all 4 TE's in. Crumpler and Smith for blocking. Gronk and Hernandez for receiving.

The Patriots already use an absurdly high amount of 2-3 TE sets. It's hard to see them doing even more.
 
BB loves roster flexibility. Four TEs seems like a lot.
 
It's pretty goofy ~ to be kind ~ to object to our keeping both Alge Crumpler + Lee "The Myth" Smith on the basis of redundancy.

It's called "Depth".
 
After his one and out performance last year vs. the Jets, I think he should legally change his name to Algae.
 
considering your total lack of a brain cell network, you should change your name to green amoeba....
 
There will be 4 TEs on the roster this year. You can take that to the bank.

It makes perfect sense. Our offense is now being built around the TE position. We have 2 TEs on the field much more than other teams. If one goes down, that leaves an injury away from not being able to run a huge part of the offense.

If Crumpler is injured, there's really no one to pick up that 2nd blocking TE role. Hernandez is a sub-par blocker. He can't do what Crumpler does. Lee can.
 
After his one and out performance last year vs. the Jets, I think he should legally change his name to Algae.

Crumpler showed more heart than any of our guys by chasing down Harris on that interception. How the hell can you be that slow? And Crump has 30 pounds and 6 years on that guy. lmao.
 
so when does Crump get traded or let go???


Lee Smith is a topnotch blocker w/ youth where as Alge is getting older and it would be foolish to carry 4 TE's not gonna happen.


Lee Smith is the future we should go young.

Lee Smith will get claimed off of practice squad. THEY BETTER NOT PUT HIM THERE. If anything put Crump on PS and some 1 will claim him.


Crump is a good player but he is very expendable ever since Lee Smith was drafted.

what will transpire? if we lose Lee Smith I will LOSE IT

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Crumpler will be a cap casualty. To be the third or fourth TE and the second or third Blocking TE off the bench and takeing up a criticle 4th possition on the TE depth chart with a total cap charge over 3 million I just don't see it . I fully respect him as a player, but he served his purpuse breaking in the two rookies last year and giveing the team a year of insurance at TE during the adjustment period. He would also hinder the progress of smith by takeing needed reps from him. Smith will do fine learning and shareing reps with Gronk, and Hernandez. Crumpler might get stached on PUP useing his sholder surgery as a reason but the 3 mill. tells me he is gone. And with BB bussiness is bussiness.
PS. Crump goes on the phone call list if not picked up.

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Gronkowski in 2010:
6'6" 265lb
42 catches 546 yds. 10 td's as a rookie starting behind Crumpler.
Hernandez in 2010:
6'1" 245 lb
45 catches 563 yds, 6td's as a rookie starting behind Crumpler.
Lee Smith in 2010:
6'6" 266 lb.
38 catches 358 yrds considered one of the best blocking TE's in the draft with soft hands.
Crumpler in 2010:
6'2" 275 lbs.
6 catches for 52 yds. 28 of which came on one play. 4 td's. started 10 game's played in 16.
Will be 34 yr. old this season, comeing off sholder surgery, and has a total cap hit of 3 million,double the other 3 combined.

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Here is the first attempt to prove this line of thinking other than to say "I say so". But the explanation of the reduced yardage being totaly atributed to Crump is unrealistic. How about Chris Johnsons own explanation for the reduced yardage :

Trying to figure out what's wrong with the Titans running game
Posted by NBC Sports on October 7, 2010, 10:50 AM EDT
The goal for Chris Johnson was 2,500 rushing yards. The Tennessean even built a nifty application to track his progress.

So far, he’s on pace for 1,416 rushing yards. That’s not shabby, but his 3.8 yards-per-carry average is 34th in the league, and he’s only recorded 38 receiving yards in four games.

Watch the Titans play, and you constantly see defenders in the backfield. Johnson is often breaking tackles just to get back to the line of scrimmage.

“I’m running the same,” Johnson said when asked if he’s been as decisive this year.

That may sound like Johnson is redirecting blame, but that’s not the case.

“One time the offensive linemen miss a block or one time (I) might
miss a read or not be in the right place, so it is the whole offense,”
Johnson told Jim Wyatt Wednesday. “It’s a long season and we know we’re going to get better. That is
the wrong thing to do, to start pointing fingers, you start separating
the locker room.”

Vince Young needs to start going deep more, and Kenny Britt’s role looks set to increase. Johnson was hoping for another deep threat though.

“Moss would of been a great move for us,” Johnson wrote Wednesday.


"Still, Johnson is having a hard time adjusting to defenses geared up to stop him. Johnson told his fantasy owners and fans that he’d have a great October, and that

"it was just taking him a little time to adjust to eight or nine defenders in the box."

Johnsons own explanation is holding more weight than speculation that Crumpler was the reason for Johnsons success. also looking back I see a reference to:FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | TIGHT ENDS 2010
showing TE stats, which if you follow Crumps career back to 01 shows a spuratic rise for his first 4 years then a slow than rapid decline in productivity in every catigory. his overall rankings follow: 01-21st,02-5th,03-16th,04-8th,05-20th,06-19th,07-22nd,08-29th,09-32nd,10-53rd. It doesen't take much thought to see he is at the end of his career, and even at the top of his game he was spuratic. Also even at the top of his game he never put up the stats and rankings that Gronkowski and Hernandez have in their rookie years(overall 2nd. and 5th.). I can't understand the disrespect you posters have for your new star TE's by insisting they need Crumpler to be successful when Crumpler never reached the point that our New TE's have started at. Crumpler did serve a valuble contribution to the team helping breakin the rookies but the coaching staf had a lot to do with it to. Now the team needs contributors, not cheerleaders. He should retire befors becomeing dead weight and give way to the future.

bump it up
 
Any need for 4 posts all saying the same thing to bump this thread? One would have done!
 
Anyone else cringe when they see a TheSolderKing thread?
 
Anyone else cringe when they see a TheSolderKing thread?

Always, but I can't see what he posts anymore The joys of the ignore list
 
Other teams have a field day signing Patriot discards....no way Crump lasts long if he gets cut.......and forget Smith, he'd be claimed off waivers and never make it to the PS.....BB finds a way to keep them both.....

Players that can't be good at playing at least their primary position and ST may be casualties....figure BB keeps 6 or 7 rookies on the 53 then there are lots of bubble players.....some of them still with lots of potential or gas in their tank....

Slater
Faulk
Morris
Taylor
McGowan
Wilhite
Butler
Ohrnberger
Moore
Ojinnaka
Levoir
Kaczur

I probably missed a couple and have a couple on the list that someone will say NO WAY....also, this list assumes BB doesn't stash a couple of rookies on IR (Cannon & Smith).....

TC can't come soon enough :rocker:
 
Why did someone necro this thread when we've got a more recent version up and running?
 
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