Last ten NFL draft #14 picks- judge for yourself

[Sam Bam Cunningham]

Hopefully BB can do better than the typical #14 pick over the last 10 years
Mostly one step above JAGS. Only difference maker(s) perhaps are Lindstrom and Kinlaw
In this draft position...perhaps less than 50:50 chance of finding a gem?

2013- Star Lotulelei
2014- Kyle Fuller
2015- Devante Parker
2016 Karl Joseph
2017 Derek Barnett
2018 Marcus Davenport
2019 Chris Lindstrom
2020 Javon Kinlaw
2021 Alijah Vera-Tucker
2022 Kyle Hamilton

 

[UrbanCowboy]

No kiddin' ... geez. Time to start lowering our expectations.

 

[aluminum seats]

Trade down

 

[Sciz]

The secret is to go into draft night with pick 14 but then trade it:

2021: Vikings traded down from 14 to 23 and picked Christian Darrisaw
2020: Bucs traded up from 14 to 13 for Tristan Wirfs
2018: Packers traded back from 14 to 27, then back up to 18 for Jaire Alexander

 

[Brandon_Cox]

Chris Lindstrom was an all-pro last year. PFF gave Chris Lindstrom the highest grade of any NFL player last year. Not just of guards, but of all NFL players. That's pretty damn good for the no. 14 pick. I'd be happy with that

 

[ahmed]

I would want them to trade up for an elite prospect. Hate the constant trading down.

 

[DaBruinz]

Hopefully BB can do better than the typical #14 pick over the last 10 years
Mostly one step above JAGS. Only difference maker(s) perhaps are Lindstrom and Kinlaw
In this draft position...perhaps less than 50:50 chance of finding a gem?

2013- Star Lotulelei
2014- Kyle Fuller
2015- Devante Parker
2016 Karl Joseph
2017 Derek Barnett
2018 Marcus Davenport
2019 Chris Lindstrom
2020 Javon Kinlaw
2021 Alijah Vera-Tucker
2022 Kyle Hamilton

Your assessment that they're jags except for Lindstrom and Kinlaw really isn't accurate.

Vera-Tucker and Hamilton haven't been in the league long enough to call them Jags.
Not sure how you can say Kinlaw is good when he's only played 10 of 34 games the last two seasons.
Lotulelei was a very dominant player at a position that doesn't get recognition.
Kyle Fuller was an ALL-PRO for 2 straight years in 2017 and 2018.

The one thing I see is that 5 of the 8 players who you should be evaluating against are oft-injured.

Lotulelei - 119G - 115 Starts. 2 teams. - 8 years in the league
Fuller - 113 G - 105 Starts. 3 teams. Currently UFA. All-Pro 2017 & 2018
Parker - On his 2nd team. Only played 1 full season.
Joseph - 6 years - Out of league since 2021. Never played a full season.
Barnett - Can't stay healthy. Never played a full season.
Davenport - Can't stay healthy. Part-time starter.
Lindstrom - 3 yr starter for Atlanta. 2022 All-Pro
Kinlaw - Plagued by injuries last two years.
Vera-Tucker - Too early to tell.
Hamilton - Too Early to tell.

 

[PatsFan2]

Hopefully BB can do better than the typical #14 pick over the last 10 years
Mostly one step above JAGS. Only difference maker(s) perhaps are Lindstrom and Kinlaw
In this draft position...perhaps less than 50:50 chance of finding a gem?

2013- Star Lotulelei
2014- Kyle Fuller
2015- Devante Parker
2016 Karl Joseph
2017 Derek Barnett
2018 Marcus Davenport
2019 Chris Lindstrom
2020 Javon Kinlaw
2021 Alijah Vera-Tucker
2022 Kyle Hamilton

Yikes #14 not really a sweeet spot based on previous history I open to anything.

 

[Efstratios]

I would want them to trade up for an elite prospect. Hate the constant trading down.

IIRC the last time Bill did that was the 2012 draft and it caught a lot of people by surprise (said draft also got us Jones and Hightower so it was absolutely a success overall). I've stopped predicting anything the guy does and Mercury is in retrograde so perhaps he might buck the trend.

 

[TheRainMaker]

He's shown some flashes when he plays, but Kinlaw is not anywhere near the class of difference makers. He's got much criticism by the media for not staying on the field. In fact, he flipped out on a reporter about it and physically tried to intimidate this reporter by pushing or body checking him.

 

[203Pat]

As long as we take the consensus top 1 or 2 tackle, corner, or receiver I will be happy. Don't get cute and trade back and then draft a RB or, god forbid, a guard. Get someone who is a blue chip (or very close) at 14. Stop this value shopping ********. This team needs premium talent and not a collection of average to good players.

 

[Drunken Cicerone]

Whoever they take likely will be a third round talent anyway so I wouldn’t compare it to the past #14s

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

The secret is to go into draft night with pick 14 but then trade it:

2021: Vikings traded down from 14 to 23 and picked Christian Darrisaw
2020: Bucs traded up from 14 to 13 for Tristan Wirfs
2018: Packers traded back from 14 to 27, then back up to 18 for Jaire Alexander

Came here to post this. 14 is an option, not an absolute.

And like you said, you can move around. Recent 12th overall picks ... JJ Watt, Demarcus Ware, Patrick Willis, Big Ben, Freeney, Culpepper.

Just go get one of the 7-8 1st RD guys and I'll be happy.

 

[State]

Zay Flowers will make the selection bloom.

 

[Steve102]

Hopefully BB can do better than the typical #14 pick over the last 10 years
Mostly one step above JAGS. Only difference maker(s) perhaps are Lindstrom and Kinlaw
In this draft position...perhaps less than 50:50 chance of finding a gem?

2013- Star Lotulelei
2014- Kyle Fuller
2015- Devante Parker
2016 Karl Joseph
2017 Derek Barnett
2018 Marcus Davenport
2019 Chris Lindstrom
2020 Javon Kinlaw
2021 Alijah Vera-Tucker
2022 Kyle Hamilton

Good job compiling this.

 

[holyredeemer]

If he’s still there around 10, trade up and draft Wilson. Let’s get this front 7 back to the top!

 

[ahmed]

IIRC the last time Bill did that was the 2012 draft and it caught a lot of people by surprise (said draft also got us Jones and Hightower so it was absolutely a success overall). I've stopped predicting anything the guy does and Mercury is in retrograde so perhaps he might buck the trend.

All his high picks have turned out well. Solder is worst pick under 20 (warming seat up for Mac) and he still had a really good career with us winning 2 SBs

His record in high 20s and after is much more mixed which is another reason I have always been unhappy whenever we traded down or out of the 1st round.

 

[VJCPatriot]

The secret is to go into draft night with pick 14 but then trade it:

2021: Vikings traded down from 14 to 23 and picked Christian Darrisaw
2020: Bucs traded up from 14 to 13 for Tristan Wirfs
2018: Packers traded back from 14 to 27, then back up to 18 for Jaire Alexander

Definitely trading the pick is the move, but do we go up or down, and who is the target?

 

[TheBeers]

I think getting to 11 will get us one of the top 2 OT or CB. That's what I'd like to see, or a trade down if they can't get there.

 

[BTTA]

No kiddin' ... geez. Time to start lowering our expectations.

This isn't unusual. Picks in the teens are 50/50 deals to be starters, much less to be stars.