Kraft Orchids Case - Prosecuters Want a Tug Rule?

[Actual Pats Fan]

Correct. Imho Kraft would have not changed logo...my 2 cents...

I agree...for me too that was the only reason...Pat Patriot was allready "out" when Kraft became the owner

I heard that Kraft participated in choosing the ugly thing practically identical to proto elvis

He definitely loves and has kept f.e.

He never cared about alienating lifelong fans of the team

He cares about himself

Anything he says that sounds acknowledging about the old Patriots is disingenuous.

 

[Zuma]

Kraft adopted Goodell as his son when Roger followed Tagliabue's order to come up here and facilitate keeping the Pats in the Boston [money] market. Finneran did a 180, Kraft took advantage and backed out of the Hartford deal just in time.

It is a privilege to be part of the National Football League. Everyone who is part of the league must refrain from 'conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in' the NFL. This includes owners, coaches, players, other team employees, game officials, and employees of the league office, NFL Films, NFL Network, or any other NFL business. Ownership and club or league management have traditionally been held to a higher standard and will be subject to more significant discipline when violations of the Personal Conduct Policy occur. Conduct by anyone in the league that is illegal...or irresponsible puts innocent victims at risk, damages the reputation of others in the game, and undercuts public respect and support for the NFL.

That describes Goodell perfectly, yet Kraft endorsed his contract extension and raise.

Just as Kraft adopted Drew Bledsoe as his son, anointing him better than half a dozen Pats quarterbacks who were vastly superior, and creating the army/legion of Kraftfans who worship the flying elvis, believe that we sucked for our first 33 years and to this day believe Bledsoe should have been reinstated as the starter in 2001, Berry/Eason style, and that we'd have still won, when in fact we'd have been eliminated and Tom would have gone off to success in some other city and the Patriots would have continued to indeed, stink...under Kraft.

I'd like people to stop saying how Kraft "allows Belichick to run the team."

He only did this after driving Parcells out of town, and after winning the Super Bowl when Bill defied the army of Bledsoe lovers created by Kraft.

I will never understand the Bledsoe shade. I appreciated his talent...why throw the guy under the bus. Parilli, Grogan, Bledsoe and Brady...4 great QB's with a long Patriots history that helped define the greatest NFL franchise of all time.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I will never understand the Bledsoe shade. I appreciated his talent...why throw the guy under the bus. Parilli, Grogan, Bledsoe and Brady...4 great QB's with a long Patriots history that helped define the greatest NFL franchise of all time.

Drew was not a very good QB from 1999-2001. That's the shade.

Class act though. Solid human being.

 

[Patjew]

I will never understand the Bledsoe shade. I appreciated his talent...why throw the guy under the bus. Parilli, Grogan, Bledsoe and Brady...4 great QB's with a long Patriots history that helped define the greatest NFL franchise of all time.

I was going to make a Zolak joke, but man... I actually love Zolak.

 

[Zuma]

Drew was not a very good QB from 1999-2001. That's the shade.

Class act though. Solid human being.

Large quantities of talent but never put the time in to excel....that was the case from day one.

 

[maust]

I was going to make a Zolak joke, but man... I actually love Zolak.

Who doesn't? (now that is)
Nobody has it better than Zo and somehow we all get to go along for the ride

 

[maust]

Large quantities of talents but never put the time in to excel....that was the case from day one.

But there was this one time in '94 (not to be confused with one time at band camp)...

This Day in Football: Bledsoe's 70 passes

 

[Zuma]

But there was this one time in '94 (not to be confused with one time at band camp)...

This Day in Football: Bledsoe's 70 passes

Not shabby...

 

[Ring 6]

I will never understand the Bledsoe shade. I appreciated his talent...why throw the guy under the bus. Parilli, Grogan, Bledsoe and Brady...4 great QB's with a long Patriots history that helped define the greatest NFL franchise of all time.

It was close to the worst franchise of all time before Brady took over. So it’s kind of disingenuous to credit their that came before him for the franchises success when there pretty much was none before him.

 

[letekro]

Large quantities of talents but never put the time in to excel....that was the case from day one.

1. Having a lot of talent while not trying hard and
2. having a lot of arm talent but also having poor mental and pocket movement talent while trying hard would probably look the same to an outside observer.

 

[Zuma]

It was close to the worst franchise of all time before Brady took over. So it’s kind of disingenuous to credit their that came before him for the franchises success when there pretty much was none before him.

Close was sitting on steel benches in freezing weather enduring a 1-15 season. The Bledsoe years were a welcome reprieve.

 

[Ring 6]

Close was sitting on steel benches in freezing weather enduring a 1-15 season. The Bledsoe years were a welcome reprieve.

The Bledsoe years were .500 football.
We didn’t become the greatest franchise in the nfl because of the Bledsoe-led run of averageness.

 

[mgteich]

The patriots from 1994-2000 were NOT close the worst franchise of all time.

It was close to the worst franchise of all time before Brady took over. So it’s kind of disingenuous to credit their that came before him for the franchises success when there pretty much was none before him.

 

[Ring 6]

The patriots from 1994-2000 were NOT close the worst franchise of all time.

The patriots up until 2000 were.
The patriots under Bledsoe were mediocre.
Saying that Bledsoe (and parilli and grogan) is part of why this is the greatest franchise ever is not correct.
As I said before Brady took over it had been close to the worst.

 

[PatsWSB47]

The patriots up until 2000 were.
The patriots under Bledsoe were mediocre.
Saying that Bledsoe (and parilli and grogan) is part of why this is the greatest franchise ever is not correct.
As I said before Brady took over it had been close to the worst.

At the time I thought Bledsoe gave us hope. We did make the playoffs for a while. Then came Brady. That's when I realized how mediocre Bledsoe was

 

[Zuma]

At the time I thought Bledsoe gave us hope. We did make the playoffs for a while. Then came Brady. That's when I realized how mediocre Bledsoe was

This. That’s exactly how I felt...Hope. Their was no hope with Tony Eason.

 

[Ring 6]

At the time I thought Bledsoe gave us hope. We did make the playoffs for a while. Then came Brady. That's when I realized how mediocre Bledsoe was

I’m not trying to bash Bledsoe, but he had nothing to do with this becoming the greatest franchise in the nfl unless you give him credit for getting injured so brady could take over.

 

[Ring 6]

This. That’s exactly how I felt...Hope. Their was no hope with Tony Eason.

Tony Eason 28-21; 3-2 post season
Drew Bledsoe 63-60; 4-3 post season

Hope is in the eye of the beholder

 

[JarOfMayo51]

The best way out of these things is to admit wrong doing and put it behind you.

Kraft cant do that now since he denies that anything inappropriate occurred.

Not necessarily, he could argue the solicitation part... some of these types of parlors, they offer a handy J at the end as standard operating procedure

So he could legitimately argue that he didn't solicit a prostitute.. he just went in for a massage, the girl asked if he wanted a happy ending and he nodded

He could still admit wrong doing afterwards, but from a legal perspective he could get out of the solicitation charge... especially with an ace team of lawyers and friends in high places

 

[MassPats38]

The patriots from 1994-2000 were NOT close the worst franchise of all time.

People have funny memories. 8.5 wins per season hardly qualifies as the worst franchise of any era. 1989-1993 at just under 4 wins per season is a much stronger case. Those were the Patsies.