Patriots Rumor Is Mike’s job security in danger? (Vrabel + Russini)

[Ross12]

Yep. We weren’t down at the bottom of the standings and up at the top of the draft order long enough.

Brady leaves, Bill loses his touch - “Haha, sucks for you”

Bill gets fired, Pats end up with a very high pick - “Now you have to see what it’s like trying to find your future franchise QB and coach, but hey, we’ve all been there. Get ready for the pain like the rest of us deal with”

Pats select an elite QB with that pick immediately and find an elite coach two years removed from Bill leaving - “Hey wait that’s not right, it’s supposed to be hard”

Patriots immediately win their division and return to Super Bowl - “I hate you again”

 

[borisman]

Finally, a good summation of why some folks insist on still fanning the flames. They just want to see Vrabel in hell, and they’re taking personal responsibility for making sure he’s there…

They are telling half truths. They want him miserable, yes. But they also do care if he is fired. They care a lot. That is their goal, their icing on the cake, their JOY IN LIFE.

 

[XLIX]

What? Inheritance?

The legal issues at play would include the requirement to pay child support, there would be custody issues at play if they got divorced, and the parentage of the children could impact a divorce settlement. And since you mention it, yes, inheritance issues would be impacted.

Only if you let it. If you obsess about it it will. But if you live in the moment and focus on loving your family and cherishing the time you spend together you’ll be too busy doing well to be poisoned by your unhealthy obsession about where some bits of dna originated.

********. 99.9% of men would want to know one way or another. It’s not an “unhealthy obsession”
to want to know if a child is yours.

It is also better for the child to know family history of things like cancer, high blood pressure, heart attacks, etc.

 

[XLIX]

There is a body of work out there referring to "psychological parent" with legal and psychological ramifications.
Basicly a child is inevitably and deeply harmed by separation from a primary caregiver who has cared for, nurtured and loved the child for a lengthy period of time. Parental bonds are created, the disruption of which can be confusing and have long term implications. 22 states recognize the concept of "psychological parent" that can impact custody issues.
If Vrabel is the parent and then have the father leave can have long range psychological effects due to the disruption (perception of abandonment) by a caring adult without the child understanding why.
How would you begin to explain any of this to a 5 year old??
This whole family dynamic is a mess and needs to be sorted with professional guidance, but understanding this situation is difficult as we may never know all the issues and dynamics of this affair, rightfully so.

Do we really need a professional study to tell us divorce is a **** sandwich for all involved, especially the children?

As for parentage…. I cannot imagine how it is easier or better to wait to tell a kid the truth. Again, it’s another **** sandwich but better to let them know at 5 than at 20.

 

[XLIX]

They are telling half truths. They want him miserable, yes. But they also do care if he is fired. They care a lot. That is their goal, their icing on the cake, their JOY IN LIFE.

This ties into a point I (sarcastically) made the other day about how nice it is that Jets fans, Eagles fans, Steelers fans all want the Patriots to do what’s right for the team and fire Vrabel. It’s almost like they know that would hurt the team more than help.

 

[DarrylS]

Do we really need a professional study to tell us divorce is a **** sandwich for all involved, especially the children?

As for parentage…. I cannot imagine how it is easier or better to wait to tell a kid the truth. Again, it’s another **** sandwich but better to let them know at 5 than at 20.

Yes you need professionals to do studies such as this and can't arbitrarily minimize the effect of abandonment.
This child has been attached to this father his entire life.
But this discussion is speculative as we have no idea about the paternity of the child. I don't care who is, all I care about is the safety, care and nurturing of this child.

 

[ViperGTS]

What? Inheritance?

Don’t tell me you’re landed gentry, worried about the estates some ancestor stole at swordpoint?

Anything else, make a will, name your heirs.

BFD.


Only if you let it. If you obsess about it it will. But if you live in the moment and focus on loving your family and cherishing the time you spend together you’ll be too busy doing well to be poisoned by your unhealthy obsession about where some bits of dna originated.

Honestly, I’d rather be with chosen family instead of blood relatives. Why would I choose mindrot worrying about something that’s really not important?

Yeah, here’s the honest to god truth. It’s just a way to assert your dominance.

I'm just being pragmatic about the whole situation, instead of putting my feelings into it. It has no bearing my life whatsoever outside of possibly causing the team to be affected by it. It might be already with reports of Vrabel not exactly being 100 percent Vrabel. Those margins can lead to losses. That isn't exactly a bold statement.

By legal ramifications I meant in a divorce battle. The husband would have proof that his wife cheated on him many times. With the courts almost all the time side with the mom in custody battles or divorce proceedings. It is very slanted towards that angle (I again have no first hand knowledge of such things but have seen plenty). I doubt any man worth his **** would denounce a child that wasn't actually his. Being a dad isn't about blood in that regard it's about who raised the child.

The child would deserve to know who his real dad is. If it is found out that Vrabel is the Dad it's up to the family to decide when to tell the kid. That is a choice only they can make.

 

[tuckeverlasting]

I'm just being pragmatic about the whole situation, instead of putting my feelings into it. It has no bearing my life whatsoever outside of possibly causing the team to be affected by it. It might be already with reports of Vrabel not exactly being 100 percent Vrabel. Those margins can lead to losses. That isn't exactly a bold statement.

By legal ramifications I meant in a divorce battle. The husband would have proof that his wife cheated on him many times. With the courts almost all the time side with the mom in custody battles or divorce proceedings. It is very slanted towards that angle (I again have no first hand knowledge of such things but have seen plenty). I doubt any man worth his **** would denounce a child that wasn't actually his. Being a dad isn't about blood in that regard it's about who raised the child.

The child would deserve to know who his real dad is. If it is found out that Vrabel is the Dad it's up to the family to decide when to tell the kid. That is a choice only they can make.

as far as we know .....he does. any testing could already be done.

 

[lancerman]

To answer the question about if Mike's job is in danger. No. It's the implication of danger. Dianna takes Mike on that boat trip, he looks around and see's nothing but open ocean, "what am I going to do say no", shakes head.

 

[Bill Lee]

Finally, a good summation of why some folks insist on still fanning the flames. They just want to see Vrabel in hell, and they’re taking personal responsibility for making sure he’s there…

I've listened to a NFL podcast for a decade now. The guy who is the main host is really talented at thinking of interesting ways to present the content in a mirthy way. Yet he's a hard core Jete fan, so when he gets talking about anything to do with the Dynasty he's pretty much unlistenable to me.

He had this "gradual decline" meme going about late-period Brady that he leaned into, yet this was all throughout the time we had our last SB with Brady AND throughout his Tampa SB year too. He kept saying it was going to happen any day now, which of course is true, yet he looked like a total ass as Brady kept kicking ass. Brady was league MVP at age 40, won his last NE Super Bowl at age 41 and the Tampa SB at age 43. Gradual decline, my ass!

And the dude is still all over anything Brady does. He's deeply triggered by the Raiders ownership thing, thinks he's behind every single thing LV does, yada yada. It gets tired quick.

And yes, he's had every single bite of the Vrabel apple right from the start, and even a bite too many. Fans online called him out for beating the dead horse, as they should have.

So, yeah, people definitely cheer when the Patriots have any sort of drama, but bleep them. I lived through some pretty bad teams in the 80s and 90s. They can suck it.

 

[Rob0729]

What a distraction this mess is.

Your Boy Scout QB is fielding questions. That will go on and on.

THenderson, an amazing Christian who led the charge at Ohio State to commit to Jesus, which revitalized the program, is quoting from Hebrews on X, in order for his sinful head coach to be Born Again.

And Jason Whitlock is speculating that six years ago Vrabel's then pregnant girlfriend was impregnated by the tall stud rather than her beta husband she openly mocked.

And Rob Parker, who sounds like a Patriots hater, says Robert Kraft's chances to be elected to Canton will be even less likely if he continues backing Vrabes.

I don't see Vrabel lasting. Kraft covets the Hall of Fame more than almost anything.

Here is Henderson’s real statement about Vrabel.

 

[TomPatriot]

I mean no offense to anyone, but this is one damn ugly thread.

 

[TheRainMaker]

The articles, videos and comments getting brutal - they either don't think Vrabel will be the HC or want him to resign.

 

[Bill Lee]

The articles, videos and comments getting brutal - they either don't think Vrabel will be the HC or want him to resign.

Who cares? It's a bunch of internet randos. All kinds of gets posted to the Internet every second of every day.

 

[upstater1]

The articles, videos and comments getting brutal - they either don't think Vrabel will be the HC or want him to resign.

Who is they? Seriously, I dont follow this religiously. Hopefully none of the players or administrators.

 

[upstater1]

It is true. Maybe you wouldn't want to know, but most guys would want to know if those boys are their biological kids

As soon as they do that, they basically forfeit their fatherhood.

So... great you thought I wasn't your son. Then you found out I was. But now I know you were prepared to disavow me in a flash.

 

[upstater1]

Whitlock isn't wrong to speculate that one of both of Russini's kids might be Vrabel's

Russini's husband needs to test those kids paternity

He's wrong. It's worthy of soap operas and the National Enquirer.

Of course he's wrong. Think about what you wrote. Gossip column stuff. Embarrassing. Aren't you embarrassed?

 

[Boogs]

As soon as they do that, they basically forfeit their fatherhood.

So... great you thought I wasn't your son. Then you found out I was. But now I know you were prepared to disavow me in a flash.

Nobody said he has to disavow any kids.

 

[Boogs]

He's wrong. It's worthy of soap operas and the National Enquirer.

Of course he's wrong. Think about what you wrote. Gossip column stuff. Embarrassing. Aren't you embarrassed?

He's actually not wrong.

If you think he is, then show us where specifically

 

[tuckeverlasting]

seeings as how players do this all the time in all sports he's probably just trying to be relatable to his players.

"Nobody said he has to disavow any kids."

that's what getting a blood test might mean to his kid.