Is Belichick still a great coach or did Belichick “ruin” Mac Jones?

[Rob0729]

Rob you live with your parents. I don't think there's anything left to say.

I live with your mom. We were going to break it you over Christmas.

 

[Jlaff]

I live with your mom. We were going to break it you over Christmas.

Lol, ok Rob.

Are you typing this from your childhood bedroom next to your old single bed?

 

[pctronics0072]

Lol, ok Rob.

Are you typing this from your childhood bedroom next to your old single bed?

I think I found him....

 

[PATS16N0]

Rob needs posts deleted so he doesn’t look like he got ****ing curb stomped as hard as he did. It’s cool. Like I said very early on, I understand fully that defending Tom ****ing Brady from fat low T ****s with coltforum arguments is super taboo here now.

 

[Rob0729]

Lol, ok Rob.

Are you typing this from your childhood bedroom next to your old single bed?

Nope. Currently typing while my laptop is resting your mom’s back. I am good at multitasking.

 

[1960Pats]

Brady had clutch moments that year. I never said otherwise. But you can be clutch in a game manager role. Brady was a good QB in 2001. He wasn't elite yet.

Here's what I think Rob, as a person who has to resist the temptation to do what many other fans do here, and that is to keep on going with the T vs B debate as you'd like me to. Sorry, but Brady already won that going away, figuratively and literally.

 

[PATS16N0]

It’s a safe space for Mac Jones ball washers with hopelessly low T. Probably a forum name change is in order.

 

[Jlaff]

Wow this thread got short. @mike_usagisan the only mod on. So you're deleting half the posts Mike? I'm certain @Ian recently swore he's the only one allowed to delete posts and he's not here, so wtf are you doing?

 

[pctronics0072]

Posts are now disappearing and page 7 only has 3 posts even though there is a page 8.

Censorship again? @Ian

What a complete joke the staff and this site have become. I vote for calling the staff member responsible Ashley 2.0. Any takers?

 

[PATS16N0]

Wow this thread got short. @mike_usagisan the only mod on. So you're deleting half the posts Mike? I'm certain @Ian recently swore he's the only one allowed to delete posts and he's not here, so wtf are you doing?

Protecting Rob from absolute annihilation.

 

[PATS16N0]

Soon I’m sure it will just be effeminate cringelords left in a safe-space ***********, and this will be the least active football forum on the entire internet, since that’s legit the most unappealing concept in the entire universe.

 

[Rob0729]

Here's what I think Rob, as a person who has to resist the temptation to do what many other fans do here, and that is to keep on going with the T vs B debate as you'd like me to. Sorry, but Brady already won that going away, figuratively and literally.

This isn’t a Brady/Belichick debate. At least not on my part. I would rather have Brady in his prime than Belichick in his prime. If 2001 and just 2001, I’d take Belichick. For a career, it would easily be Brady.

 

[vicspats]

Mac is mentally weak and cannot handle adversity AND Belichick did play a role in ruining him. There were signs when Jones was drafted that he wasn't emotionally mature enough to handle the pressure. There was talk about him being called McEnroe because of his temper and reports that Saban said his biggest flaw with his emotional maturity. I personally underestimated it. It may have been a bigger issue than people thought at the time.

That said, Belichick pretty followed the bad team's handbook on how to ruin a young QB and then some. To give him a special team coach to be his QBs coach in his second year was criminal along with Patricia. He didn't surround him with players to help him and basically asked him to elevate a mediocre cast. When there was a QB controversy last year, instead of trying to squash it, he added fuel to the fire making Mac worry about his job. And of course, Mac started to play scared because he was worried about being benched.

But everything I just wrote about Belichick doing to Mac Jones, he also did most of it to Bailey Zappe.

Ultimately, it is on Jones because this is the NFL and all players face adversity. You gotta get over it.

As for if Belichick is still great? I tend to doubt it. I think he may be just going through the motions to get the record. The last two years, the Patriots on both sides of the ball haven't been the disciplined Belichick teams that they were in the past. It could also be he is just a relic of a time gone past and refuses to adapt to today's NFL and players tune him out more than in the past. Belichick was the greatest of all time. Now I might take a guy like Mike McDaniel over him. McDaniel is a goof, but players seem to love him and work hard for him. And he is definitely innovative on offense like Belichick used to be on defense.

That day Mac got drafted and galloped out on stage .. I thought that was an initial sign. Looked very weak, like a nervous 6 th grader going up to the chalk board to do a spelling B. When Gronk got drafted and acted a buffoon, I thought strange as well, only because of how strict we heard the Patriot way was. And truth be told he did end up being a buffoon, except he was our Buffon lol.

 

[Rob0729]

Wow this thread got short. @mike_usagisan the only mod on. So you're deleting half the posts Mike? I'm certain @Ian recently swore he's the only one allowed to delete posts and he's not here, so wtf are you doing?

Just for the record. I have never asked any moderator to delete posts. I really don’t care what you post.

 

[Jlaff]

@mike_usagisan the most sycophant mod I've seen here by a mile. Palms sweating as he deletes posts, caught up in the excitement of his first taste of power in life.

 

[PATS16N0]

-make thread
-Rob enters and says his usual ****ing ******ed cringelord beta male ****** ********
-defend Tom Brady
-get thread nuked into oblivion by cringelord mod
-wonders why activity is down

This place is going to be ****ing tumbleweeds by training camp.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

They need to be deleted in case super intelligent life invades the planet, download the entire internet, and are on the fence about our survival, and these posts might just tip the scales.

 

[PATS16N0]

Posts that are allowed:
“Hi guys. Yaaaaay. You can do it, Mac Jones! Yaaaaay! Who’s up for some sweating to the oldies!? Yaaaaaaay! I hope everyone’s wearing their masks! Yaaaaaaay! Other forums like every other one on the internet related to football are too edgy and mean! That’s what I say! Yaaaaaaay!”

 

[Chevy]

 

[PATS16N0]

Stand by 1000%.