In BB We Trust

[olschool]

How about no rings in FORTY years ? Jeez are we spoiled now or what ?

I'm happy with a legit shot at it every year, but no way do I expect a ring every year.

 

[LeonPowe]

Re: Giving Bill Belichick Too Much Blame and/or Credit

The other one, Brady would have led the team to a game winner if the defense didn't let the Giants' offense keep their last drive alive on three separate plays (two of which should have been INTs).

Are you really blaming the defense for the SB42 loss, boy? The Patriots would have and should have put up 30+, but One-Dimensional McDaniels refused to make in-game adjustments. That loss is completely on him. He DID cost us 19-0 and recognition as the greatest team ever.

50 passes per game with this new stooge in charge has really helped, hasn't it, boy? A game they should have lost to the Bills and then scoring NINE points against the Jesters.

Meanwhile, Fred Taylor, with his 6 YPC, gets 8 attempts. Maroney, who is finally running hard, has about 15 attempts on the season. How is Maroney supposed to gain any confidence if he never gets the ball, boy?

 

[Rob0729]

What has he 'produced' in the last 4 years?????? No ring in 4 years.

He has produced more than any other active coach besides Mike Tomlin and Tom Coughlin. During that time he has two AFC Championship appearances, one Super Bowl appearances, 18-1, and had at least 10 wins in each of those seasons.

BTW, Bill Walsh went 4 years in between Super Bowls. Chuck Knoll went 3 years in between Super Bowls.

 

[NEPatriot]

SO you are saying 3 Championships in this decade is a poor job?

Why did BB succeed in his FIRST 4 YEARS as a NFL HC?????

Do you want to continue looking at these 'past' championships when Pats fails to produce a new championship YEARS after YEARS????

Some NFL teams also 'had' 3 championships but you don't see their fans mentioning it today.

Do you know why you like to bring up 3 OLD championship every time??? Because your favorite team doesn't have a 'new' one. I'm sure that you are going to be TIRED of doing it at some point.

The question is when?????

 

[NEPatriot]

BUT HE DOESNT WIN EVERY SB. HOW LONG ARE YOU GOING TO PUT UP WITH THAT

Would you consider BB's first 4 years to be more success than the rest??? Of course.

Why did he succeed between 01 and 04??? Because he got his ars kicked out of Brown and Jets and he felt the need to 'prove' something.

After he proved it, he realized that you were going to worship him for the rest of your life regardless of what he was going to do.

Do you know why BB and TB are untouchable??? Because people like you choose to make it happen.

If you are willing to criticize other players or coachs for X and Y, you shouldn't have a double standard for BB and TB.

Yes, we appreciate 3 old championships but WE ARE NOT GOING TO DWELL on it for the rest of our life when we don't have any new championship years after years.

There is NOTHING GREAT ABOUT it if all you have is 3 rings.

 

[apple strudel]

What has he 'produced' in the last 4 years?????? No ring in 4 years.

Yeah, you're right. No rings in 4 years in spite of a super bowl appearance, an 18-1 record in 2007, a record setting offense, 2 AFCG appearances, 3 playoff appearances, 3 AFCE championships, and a winning record. The guy's obviously a bum. What in the world is going on in this thread?

 

[Absurdly Metro]

As far as managment goes, it's a complete failure when the team can't duplicate the same success that they had in 01 , 03, and 04.

Why did a past OK offensive win more championships than an explosive O???

Why did an explosive O only score 9 pts?

Was it because of the defense?? If so, why can't we have that kind of defense?

Some of you use 'micro management' as a lame excuse to blindly support BB. Do you know that you can't ignore 'micro management'?

Was Buster Douglas a better fighter than Mike Tyson? No.

Then how could an inferior fighter knock out the baddest man on the planet?

Answer: He was better on that day. That's how the Pats beat the Rams in SB XXXVI. It's how the Eli led Giants beat the '07 Pats.

Idk what you're talking about with micro-managing being an excuse to support BB. We support BB because he coaches our team. We support him because of what he's been able to do with that team on the field these past eight seasons. With the exception of 2002, ANY of those Patriot teams could have won the SB with a few breaks here or there. Conversly, but for a few breaks here or there, ANY of the three Pats SB teams could have lost the SB.

 

[Rob0729]

Re: Giving Bill Belichick Too Much Blame and/or Credit

Are you really blaming the defense for the SB42 loss, boy? The Patriots would have and should have put up 30+, but One-Dimensional McDaniels refused to make in-game adjustments. That loss is completely on him. He DID cost us 19-0 and recognition as the greatest team ever.

50 passes per game with this new stooge in charge has really helped, hasn't it, boy? A game they should have lost to the Bills and then scoring NINE points against the Jesters.

Meanwhile, Fred Taylor, with his 6 YPC, gets 8 attempts. Maroney, who is finally running hard, has about 15 attempts on the season. How is Maroney supposed to gain any confidence if he never gets the ball, boy?

I'm blaming both sides of the ball for the loss. I'm sorry that I look at the game intelligently and examine the whole game and see that there is plenty of blame to go around. I skipped my McDaniels haters club labotomy appointment so I could dumb down my football knowledge to blame McDaniels for every problem this team has.

BTW, are you some kind of racist? Why are you calling me boy? Only old school racists use that term. Also, I am white.

Study up on your football and maybe you can argue with the big boys some day. And when you make a statement and someone proves you wrong, don't start insulting them. You only look foolish.

McDaniels is gone, can we stop with the bashing already. If Bill O'Brien is a failure, it isn't McDaniels' fault. Charlie is gone too. Let's stop comparing every OC to him especially when you use the legend of Weis rather than the reality of Weis which wasn't nearly as good as people remember.

 

[apple strudel]

There is NOTHING GREAT ABOUT it if all you have is 3 rings.

2nd most all time, only after Chuck Knoll. Tied with Joe Gibbs and Bill Walsh. That's obviously not even close to great. Oh boy. I'd call it a troll, but instead it's an earnest and seriously misguided NEP.

 

[Absurdly Metro]

What in the world is going on in this thread?

NEPatriot is on a bender again. He gets started early some days.

 

[NEPatriot]

How about no rings in FORTY years ? Jeez are we spoiled now or what ?

I'm happy with a legit shot at it every year, but no way do I expect a ring every year.

Is it a good feeling when Pats is always listed on a paper as X and Y years AFTER years when it doesn't produce anything significant????

If you want to look at BB's career at pats, you want to see good progress every year.

What you don't want to see is he had 3 rings in his first 4 years BUT nothing in his remaining years.

 

[NEPatriot]

NEPatriot is on a bender again. He gets started early some days.

It's good to have a guy who has different perspective instead being a loyal homer.

 

[NEPatriot]

Yeah, you're right. No rings in 4 years in spite of a super bowl appearance, an 18-1 record in 2007, a record setting offense, 2 AFCG appearances, 3 playoff appearances, 3 AFCE championships, and a winning record. The guy's obviously a bum. What in the world is going on in this thread?

Do you know what you sounds like??? Colts or Chargers fans. They are NOT happy about it. Why are you????

Because you are a blindly BB loyal????

 

[maverick4]

Re: Giving Bill Belichick Too Much Blame and/or Credit

To get back more to the point of this thread...

I think the people who work for Bill Belichick deserve a lot more credit (and blame too) for things that happen on this team.

Whether it be McDaniels putting up monster points, Pioli drafting players, Dimitroff scouting, Crennel with his turnover-creating D, Weiss with his clutch drives, or Mangini with his suckiness, not everything that happens with the team is the direct fault or credit to Bill Belichick. Belichick is the best, but he isn't a micro-manager dictator. To give him all the blame/credit, is a disservice to the people who work their arses off under him,

 

[Absurdly Metro]

Is it a good feeling when Pats is always listed on a paper as X and Y years AFTER years when it doesn't produce anything significant????

If you want to look at BB's career at pats, you want to see good progress every year.

What you don't want to see is he had 3 rings in his first 4 years BUT nothing in his remaining years.

Dude. Lay down the suds and pick up the Kool-aid.

Seriously. Do you have any idea how hard it is to even win a game in this league let alone a Superbowl? Ask a Detroit Lions fan.

 

[NEPatriot]

2nd most all time, only after Chuck Knoll. Tied with Joe Gibbs and Bill Walsh. That's obviously not even close to great. Oh boy. I'd call it a troll, but instead it's an earnest and seriously misguided NEP.

You don't have any desire for more, do you????

 

[Absurdly Metro]

It's good to have a guy who has different perspective instead being a loyal homer.

Hey I can respect a different perspective but come on man. You have absolutely zero credibility with the kind of reasoning on display in your posts. You couldn't convince a single person with your arguments. If you don't believe me set up a poll. Man. Step back and listen to yourself. It's embarrassing dude.

 

[in 12 we trust]

im happy for what we , i will agree that the 3 rings are awesome, but losing a 18 point lead at half in the 2007 AFC Championship and then the 2008 Super Bowl still makes me angry. And , after all, it is a "what have you done for me lately" world.

 

[Rob0729]

Do you know what you sounds like??? Colts or Chargers fans. They are NOT happy about it. Why are you????

Because you are a blindly BB loyal????

I'm not happy about it, but only one team can win the Super Bowl a year. As much as Pats fans expect the Pats to win the Super Bowl year after year, it just doesn't happen that way. Bill Walsh had a four year hiatus from the Super Bowl (even getting there).

The Chargers have never been to big dance. I don't know how you can compare them to the Patriots who have been there five times and won three.

Colts fans have one Super Bowl win and have had a decade of being one of the top team and never getting close otherwise.

As a Pats fan, I am not satisfied that the Pats haven't won a Super Bowl. But that doesn't mean I have or should have lost confidence in Belichick. He has given this team a shot to win it every year and were one defensive stance with one minute left of winning it two years ago and having a perfect season. Execution was more of a reason why the Pats lost that game than coaching although people want to blame the coaching 100%.

Again, tell me another coach other than Tomlin or Coughlin coaching today who has had more success than Belichick over the last four years. There are only two other coaches alive who have had more success than Belichick in that period of time.

 

[oldskool138]

im happy for what we , i will agree that the 3 rings are awesome, but losing a 18 point lead at half in the 2007 AFC Championship and then the 2008 Super Bowl still makes me angry. And , after all, it is a "what have you done for me lately" world.

True dat....