Oswlek
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This is a rebuttal thread in response to mg's thread here.
Alright everyone, 5-time probowler Diick Seyman is on the trading block and available for a 2011 first rounder. I am trying to figure out whether he is worth the investment so I've listed all the pros and cons to the deal. Please help me figure out the right course of action.
PROS
* Already fluent with the system and would not only be an immediate starter, he very likely could be the best defensive lineman on the team.
* Is an asset against both the pass and run, and when in both 3/4 and 4/3 sets. Additionally, he can play in any spot along the defensive line. The definition of an every down player.
* Coming off his best, and not coincidentally, healthiest season since 2004.
* Is willing to play hurt.
* Well respected around the league, both by players and coaches. A guy other teams gameplan for.
* Is playing for a new contract so you can be sure to get his best effort.
* My team is loaded on offense and really only has questions on defense. Adding a player of Seyman's caliber would definitely increase my odds of winning this year.
* The draft pick is not applicable until 2011, which gives me time to make further transactions covering for its loss.
CONS
* Has a recent history of elbow and knee injuries, which can be recurring in lineman. While he is willing to play, he isn't quite an elite player when not fully healthy.
* Is only a one year rental.
* He plays a position that is the deepest and most balanced on the entire roster. My team already has two other elite players, two competent starters and two promising rookies.
* While he is relatively cheap for his one season, his arrival would remove more than $3.5mm of the ~$5mm of cap room available. This limits the funds for mid-season and injury signings and all but eliminates the ability to extend current players.
* He is a negative leader. Quietly preaches a "get mine" message and has rebuffed all attempts by management and ownership to go all-in. This subtle undercurrent running counter to the team philosophy is particularly noteworthy considering I have turned over almost 40% of my roster this year and have 14 first year players on the team and reserve lists. A couple more rookies are on the practice squad as well.
* Due to the uncertain labor status, my ability to acquire top-end talent may be limited in the upcoming seasons, making high draft picks the unparalleled method of adding elite players to the team. I have a tremendous track record of success with first rounders which removes almost all of the uncertainty of whether the player selected will be any good.
* Despite the time value, a first rounder is still a first rounder. I will be getting almost assuredly very good player performance from 2012 to 2015 (we'll give a free pass on his rookie season). Considering the larger number of FAs I have leaving after this and next season, a big chip will help me reload and continue my success.
Are you in favor of trading for Diickie Seyman? As much as his performance would really help as my young defense works through some kinks, I have to admit I am leaning towards no. The long term health of my franchise is more important than swinging for the fence this year and, frankly, I think I have the best roster in the league without Seyman.
So what say you?
Alright everyone, 5-time probowler Diick Seyman is on the trading block and available for a 2011 first rounder. I am trying to figure out whether he is worth the investment so I've listed all the pros and cons to the deal. Please help me figure out the right course of action.
PROS
* Already fluent with the system and would not only be an immediate starter, he very likely could be the best defensive lineman on the team.
* Is an asset against both the pass and run, and when in both 3/4 and 4/3 sets. Additionally, he can play in any spot along the defensive line. The definition of an every down player.
* Coming off his best, and not coincidentally, healthiest season since 2004.
* Is willing to play hurt.
* Well respected around the league, both by players and coaches. A guy other teams gameplan for.
* Is playing for a new contract so you can be sure to get his best effort.
* My team is loaded on offense and really only has questions on defense. Adding a player of Seyman's caliber would definitely increase my odds of winning this year.
* The draft pick is not applicable until 2011, which gives me time to make further transactions covering for its loss.
CONS
* Has a recent history of elbow and knee injuries, which can be recurring in lineman. While he is willing to play, he isn't quite an elite player when not fully healthy.
* Is only a one year rental.
* He plays a position that is the deepest and most balanced on the entire roster. My team already has two other elite players, two competent starters and two promising rookies.
* While he is relatively cheap for his one season, his arrival would remove more than $3.5mm of the ~$5mm of cap room available. This limits the funds for mid-season and injury signings and all but eliminates the ability to extend current players.
* He is a negative leader. Quietly preaches a "get mine" message and has rebuffed all attempts by management and ownership to go all-in. This subtle undercurrent running counter to the team philosophy is particularly noteworthy considering I have turned over almost 40% of my roster this year and have 14 first year players on the team and reserve lists. A couple more rookies are on the practice squad as well.
* Due to the uncertain labor status, my ability to acquire top-end talent may be limited in the upcoming seasons, making high draft picks the unparalleled method of adding elite players to the team. I have a tremendous track record of success with first rounders which removes almost all of the uncertainty of whether the player selected will be any good.
* Despite the time value, a first rounder is still a first rounder. I will be getting almost assuredly very good player performance from 2012 to 2015 (we'll give a free pass on his rookie season). Considering the larger number of FAs I have leaving after this and next season, a big chip will help me reload and continue my success.
Are you in favor of trading for Diickie Seyman? As much as his performance would really help as my young defense works through some kinks, I have to admit I am leaning towards no. The long term health of my franchise is more important than swinging for the fence this year and, frankly, I think I have the best roster in the league without Seyman.
So what say you?
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