If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick ...

[rdf63]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

Are you disappointed if you hear

With the 27th (or 31st) pick of the 2012 NFL Draft, the New England Patriots select:

Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame OR Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor OR Mohammed Sanu , WR, Rutgers

Are people going to be pissed if they har any of these? I for one would be happy to take any of those 3 with either first round pick....

Floyd may fall to 27th or 31st with the latest news about his alcohol problems. Pats can call old friend Charlie Weis and find out who good Floyd really is. I am still against a first round WR when players like Fletcher Cox, Dont'a Hightower, Whitey Mercilus could be available and get a WR in the late 2nd or 3rd round.

 

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

Kendall Wright's 40 time means nothing except that he sucks at coming from a 3 point stance. He stumbled on both of his 40 attempts and still ran 4.45 and 4.5 unofficially. And he can definitely play outside for the Pats.

Yeah, he looked like he missed a gear coming out of the box. If I saw it, scouts saw it. He still might not make it to us.

 

[Why?PJ]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

If Floyd fell to them they'd have to take him, unless he really is a bad human being.

Wright isn't what the Pats need. If Hill or Jeffrey fall to them in the 2nd, that is who they should grab.

 

[McCourty Island]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

Kendall Wright's 40 time means nothing except that he sucks at coming from a 3 point stance. He stumbled on both of his 40 attempts and still ran 4.45 and 4.5 unofficially. And he can definitely play outside for the Pats.

Wright ran an official 4.6 so his stock is definitely down.

Does anyone know where to get the 10 yard splits from the combine? It would be interesting to see if he started slow and picked up speed.

 

[Sciz]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

Wright ran an official 4.6 so his stock is definitely down.

Does anyone know where to get the 10 yard splits from the combine? It would be interesting to see if he started slow and picked up speed.

He didn't run either of them cleanly though. Of course he's going to run slowly when he stumbles and has to regain his balance. He'll still whip out a sub-4.4 at his Pro Day, I'm sure. Low 4.4s max.

Both of his starts were bad. He'll have to work on that between now and his Pro Day, which is a shame considering that he'll never have to start from a 3 point stance in the NFL. If a TE has a problem with his start, then it's a minor concern because he'll have to start down like that most of the time. It's not a problem at all for a WR.

 

[Patriot Missile]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

Kendall Wright's 40 time means nothing except that he sucks at coming from a 3 point stance. He stumbled on both of his 40 attempts and still ran 4.45 and 4.5 unofficially. And he can definitely play outside for the Pats.

Good call. Personally this guy is still my favorite Wr for the Pats despite the 4.6. If he falls because of it, all that much better. Your right though, I think he shows good at his pro day and gets back on the hype train. Kid is a very explosive Wr.

 

[worldchamps5433]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

I don't hate him. But, he's not much of a deep threat. I read that his longest catch was 32 yards. That's kind of surprising since he played in the Big East. I don't think there's a cb I've seen even mentioned from that league. Don't think he's the right guy for us. I'D love K. Wright. He'll be gone. Reminds me of Terry Glenn. Hopefully, not a diva. Does M. Floyd come in under the drug/alcohol policy? If so, that's a gamble. A 3RD DUI is jail time.

Never heard of a cornerback from the Big East? Try Darrell Revis (Pittsburgh). Although people think of the Big East as a terrible football conference, they do produce their share of great NFL talent. The last guy to put up the receiving numbers that Sanu had this season in the Big East was Larry Fitzgerald...Not saying that Sanu is the next Fitzgerald, but I am saying that players from the Big East tend to do very well in the NFL. Also, Sanu was playing with some terrible quarterbacks this season, and the fact he was in double coverage the entire season because he was the only weapon on that Rutgers offense. Lead the league in receptions, and I would much rather take a guy with sure hands than those other receivers

 

[patsfaninpa]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

Never heard of a cornerback from the Big East? Try Darrell Revis (Pittsburgh). Although people think of the Big East as a terrible football conference, they do produce their share of great NFL talent. The last guy to put up the receiving numbers that Sanu had this season in the Big East was Larry Fitzgerald...Not saying that Sanu is the next Fitzgerald, but I am saying that players from the Big East tend to do very well in the NFL. Also, Sanu was playing with some terrible quarterbacks this season, and the fact he was in double coverage the entire season because he was the only weapon on that Rutgers offense. Lead the league in receptions, and I would much rather take a guy with sure hands than those other receivers

I'm talking about current draft prospects. Miami and Va Tech were once in the Big East too. But, it doesn't matter NOW.

 

[DW Toys]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

I don't hate him. But, he's not much of a deep threat. I read that his longest catch was 32 yards. That's kind of surprising since he played in the Big East. I don't think there's a cb I've seen even mentioned from that league. Don't think he's the right guy for us. I'D love K. Wright. He'll be gone. Reminds me of Terry Glenn. Hopefully, not a diva. Does M. Floyd come in under the drug/alcohol policy? If so, that's a gamble. A 3RD DUI is jail time.

Terrible combine by Sanu. Awful deep threat. Better off with a Wayne or Lloyd in FA. He's off my board (my opinion board). I would rather have Fleener who is a better deep threat, faster and a third TE we need. 10.8yds. per catch for possession WR Sanu versus 19.6 YPC for Fleener as a "Tight End". He splits and plays in the backfield. Sound familiar? He also is said to be a willing TE blocker. Fleener also protects us if we loose Hernandez or Gronk to injury like this year or contract next. Why is everyone from Rutgers to the Pats now? We have a possession WR. If we don't get a speed bigger WR, think of the possibilities for Fleener.
What does Sanu bring that Fleener does not? Think flexibility with Fleener, bigger, more speed.
DW Toys

 

[bucky]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

The only WR I'd consider in the 1st is Wright. Hopefully, the combine will put Floyd ahead of Wright, though I doubt either will make it to 27 in any case.

There's quite a number of good WR prospects to be had after the first, which is where I'd prefer to see the Pats address the position twice.

 

[ay-yo]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

Floyd's DUI problems take him off my board completely although his production and measurables are impressive.

I haven't looked into Wright as I believed he would never make it close to us and I didn't want to trade up for ANY WR. Given his combine he could fall and I'd certainly consider him if it wasn't a trade up.

Sanu isn't a 1st round prospect for me. I want a guy with good production and a good combine in the 1st.

In general I'd rather not take a WR in the 1st. A player at another position would have a better chance of making an impact next year.

 

[BlueThunder]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

A top OLB,DE,S could make a big difference in the Defense. Grab your WR thru FA and draft a WR in rd 3 or later.....

JMHO

 

[midwestpatsfan]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

I am trying to look at this from BB's perspective and what we interpret his philosophy on the draft to be. WR seems to have so much depth at the position in this years draft that I do not see the value in taking a WR in the first round. I think there is some fantastic talent that can be had in the 2nd round and beyond.

 

[PatsFan2]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

Combine 40 time for WR's is overrated...remember Anquan Boldin many moons ago how did his career turn out? We have been suckered by those guys in shorts too much...i like seeing them run in pads.

 

[DW Toys]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

I am trying to look at this from BB's perspective and what we interpret his philosophy on the draft to be. WR seems to have so much depth at the position in this years draft that I do not see the value in taking a WR in the first round. I think there is some fantastic talent that can be had in the 2nd round and beyond.

Good point. BB is all about value and versatility. Nobody predicts he will go TE but he needs one more for the roster than just two. Fleener is my shock pick.

Fleener can play TE, WR, H-Back, RB. He is much bigger and faster than a guy like Sanu who is a slow possession WR. We have a few of those already. Sanu is a 4.7 guy and Fleener will run about a 4.66 on his pro day.

At 6'6" and as a former BB player with jumps, Fleener is more versatile and will run faster than even Wright (who will have a smashing pro day). It also is insurance over how the Team was less effective when Hernandez was out a few games and Gronk in the SB, or if either pouts about $. Does a 6'6" 254lb WR with superb hands and gets open seem scary to even a Revis? Yep. He is even not a bad blocker as a TE. Better than Hernandez but not as good as Gronk. Sanu averaged 10.9 YPC and Fleener as a "TE" had 19.6 YPC. He can get deep.

Line up Gronk and Fleener tight. Wing Hernandez and flank Welker. As a D cordinator is it run or.....deep pass? Match up nightmare.
DW Toys

 

[patfanken]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

Good point. BB is all about value and versatility. Nobody predicts he will go TE but he needs one more for the roster than just two. Fleener is my shock pick.

Fleener can play TE, WR, H-Back, RB. He is much bigger and faster than a guy like Sanu who is a slow possession WR. We have a few of those already. Sanu is a 4.7 guy and Fleener will run about a 4.66 on his pro day.

At 6'6" and as a former BB player with jumps, Fleener is more versatile and will run faster than even Wright (who will have a smashing pro day). It also is insurance over how the Team was less effective when Hernandez was out a few games and Gronk in the SB, or if either pouts about $. Does a 6'6" 254lb WR with superb hands and gets open seem scary to even a Revis? Yep. He is even not a bad blocker as a TE. Better than Hernandez but not as good as Gronk. Sanu averaged 10.9 YPC and Fleener as a "TE" had 19.6 YPC. He can get deep.

Line up Gronk and Fleener tight. Wing Hernandez and flank Welker. As a D cordinator is it run or.....deep pass? Match up nightmare.
DW Toys

I originally intended to post on this subject by saying that its ridiculous to be discussing picking up WR, because of a need to add a speed threat to the WR position. A guy who can get separation and go deep. AND THEN give us the option of 3 very nice "possession" WRs with our first pick. STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.

Then Toys, you bring up Fleener and you've made me wonder if this isn't the kind of out of the box pick that BB makes. This is an interesting assessment. You've made a decent case that Fleener's speed and versatility is Hernandez like. He seems like he's fast enough to play on the outside. Certainly as fast as the 3 guys originally offered. We definitely need to add a 3rd TE, and finally, it is likely that in 2 years the Pats won't be able to keep BOTH Gronk and Hernandez. Most likely it will be Hernandez that would be let go. It would be nice to have his replacement right there with 2 years experience.

All my common sense says NO NO NO to a WR with one of our first round picks. AND I still think that way. However your strong case for Fleener at least makes me think about it. But I STILL wouldn't do it.

 

[captain stone]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

If Fleener's available at 48, then and only then will I think about it...
...unless every front-7 edge defender (and Barron, and Harrison Smith) who I feel worthy of a top-50 value
has already been taken by 31. That would be a very worst-case scenario indeed.

 

[DW Toys]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

I originally intended to post on this subject by saying that its ridiculous to be discussing picking up WR, because of a need to add a speed threat to the WR position. A guy who can get separation and go deep. AND THEN give us the option of 3 very nice "possession" WRs with our first pick. STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.

Then Toys, you bring up Fleener and you've made me wonder if this isn't the kind of out of the box pick that BB makes. This is an interesting assessment. You've made a decent case that Fleener's speed and versatility is Hernandez like. He seems like he's fast enough to play on the outside. Certainly as fast as the 3 guys originally offered. We definitely need to add a 3rd TE, and finally, it is likely that in 2 years the Pats won't be able to keep BOTH Gronk and Hernandez. Most likely it will be Hernandez that would be let go. It would be nice to have his replacement right there with 2 years experience.

All my common sense says NO NO NO to a WR with one of our first round picks. AND I still think that way. However your strong case for Fleener at least makes me think about it. But I STILL wouldn't do it.

Fair enough,
DW Toys

 

[UK_Pat37]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

The Patriots are interested in a FB type TE, so they will likely draft one. That's the common consensus...but they won't draft one in the first round and it's unlikely they';ll need to reach for a FB type in the top 3 rounds. Day 3 will likely see one picked up.

 

[Banjo]

Re: If Pats take one of these WRs - Floyd, Wright or Sanu - with a first round pick .

I really want them to take Kendall Wright. I'm glad he had a bad combine. It's the only way we would get a shot at him. He would be a great contributor to this team