If patriots lose out, Travis Hunter could be theirs

[slash83]

Trade the 2nd pick to the Raiders, take their 1st rounder and Crosby, draft your tackle whichever one is available. Build up both lines, target a WR in free agency or via trade if need be.

 

[mgteich]

In the top 10 of R1? Yes. You are confused about this?

I agree that all-pros are only in the top 10 or so. Obviously, some won't be and some a bit latere project to be all-pros, for example Bower last year.

 

[Brick27]

Good point. Hunter, Carter or Graham would be great to walk away with. I'd be thrilled with any of the 3.

Just the potential of what Hunter can do is alluring. He could easily be bust or turn into the first NFL player to be both a pro bowl CB and pro bowl WR.

After watching Allen and other opposing QBs sit cozy in the pocket and seeing this team struggle against bad OLs like Indy and Jacksonville, someone like Carter would be very intriguing if staying put.

Think it was the Colts in particular who were starting some guy on the OL who never started before, and another who was off the street a week or so prior. In those lenient matchups, a top rusher can obviously make all the difference and be one of those handful of multi sack games for them that happen over the season.

This team needs players nearly everywhere, and if they feel full conviction for a guy picked near the top, why the hell not vs. trying to saddle towards assumed need.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

DL IS A DEFINITE NEED.

 

[oceansizer]

It all depends on our draft position and FA. If we are at 3rd position I would take Hunter with no hesitation ( I hope we will be able to sign Cam Robinson, Holand, Nick Bolton or maybe Higgins ).Differences between OL are slender so I believe there will be a chance to grab someone at the end of 1st or in 2nd .
Different story is if we are at 2nd. Let's trade down a bit, grab extra picks and take Graham ( with Barmore's unclear future DL is a nagging problem ) and then try to pick Burden. Of course our scenarios are based on picks we get.
I am not a fan of taking Carter because I am not sure he can play a full time LB or Edge. McMillan is interesting however I prefer a speedy receiver who can create position and separation.
The bottom line is to find eventually a starters not only situational players.

 

[trailbird62]

Who cares about Divas. If they can get open and catch the ball, that’s all we care about. We’re not running a choir boy practice here. Most great WRs exude confidence and arrogance; accept this and embrace it.

As for Edelman, Givens, Welker, Amendola I could show you a lot more success stories of players drafted in the top 5 overall: Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, Larry Fitzgerald, Jamar Chase.

Lastly, those guys you listed Edelman Givens Welker Amendola ….they had BRADY. The greatest QB of all time. Maye is not Brady!!! And to expect him to turn water into wine like Brady did is unrealistic and unfair to his development.

There is a 6’5 X Wide Receiver in the draft who moves like a slot guy…draft him and reap the rewards

Kinda ironic that the wide receivers you cite as examples were never know to be divas or arrogant

 

[NE_Zealot]

The worst thing that can happen is KC clinching the #1 seed prior to week 18 and BUF having no reason to play and rest starters.

 

[Headcase]

Stop focusing on particular positions and focus on this team’s needs. There are plenty of players near the top of the draft (especially if they trade down). The Pats have two positions where they are definitely all set - #1 CB and QB. Hunter appears to be a redundancy to one of the two positions the Pats don’t need help.

This team shouldn't be drafting for needs, they have needs everywhere...BPA other than QB. The draft is the best place for a NFL team to get top end talent, we are seeing fewer and fewer impact FAs at important positions and half of half of the league is in on them, so that is a player's market. It takes Team interest, player interest, and a contract to make a FA work.

In FA we should be focused primarily on replacing fringe NFL guys with league average guys....that alone will improve the quality of the roster. I would rather overpay a bunch of league average guys by 10% than try and blow the load on the couple of top tier players that maybe available.

There are probably 5ish guys in this draft that are true high end talent, we need one of them....and the fact is two of those will be CBs; two are front 7, and 1 is a RB. There are no Blue Chips LTs or WRs in this draft (with Hunter apparently wanting to be a CB fulltime, with some WR time).

Hunter may improve two positions, but it is also two positions that are weakened if he gets hurt, so that is a double edged sword. If he wanted to play WR full time I would probably be in on him, he is just faster/more explosive/better ball skills than anyone we have, maybe anyone in the draft.

If we end up at two and we don't want Hunter, we should look to trade back no further than 6, get whatever extra picks we get, and pick from whatever remains of the Blue Chips.

This team needs talent.

 

[mgteich]

This team shouldn't be drafting for needs, they have needs everywhere...BPA other than QB. The draft is the best place for a NFL team to get top end talent, we are seeing fewer and fewer impact FAs at important positions and half of half of the league is in on them, so that is a player's market. It takes Team interest, player interest, and a contract to make a FA work.

In FA we should be focused primarily on replacing fringe NFL guys with league average guys....that alone will improve the quality of the roster. I would rather overpay a bunch of league average guys by 10% than try and blow the load on the couple of top tier players that maybe available.

There are probably 5ish guys in this draft that are true high end talent, we need one of them....and the fact is two of those will be CBs; two are front 7, and 1 is a RB. There are no Blue Chips LTs or WRs in this draft (with Hunter apparently wanting to be a CB fulltime, with some WR time).

Hunter may improve two positions, but it is also two positions that are weakened if he gets hurt, so that is a double edged sword. If he wanted to play WR full time I would probably be in on him, he is just faster/more explosive/better ball skills than anyone we have, maybe anyone in the draft.

If we end up at two and we don't want Hunter, we should look to trade back no further than 6, get whatever extra picks we get, and pick from whatever remains of the Blue Chips.

This team needs talent.

McMillan says hi

 

[Rob0729]

This team shouldn't be drafting for needs, they have needs everywhere...BPA other than QB. The draft is the best place for a NFL team to get top end talent, we are seeing fewer and fewer impact FAs at important positions and half of half of the league is in on them, so that is a player's market. It takes Team interest, player interest, and a contract to make a FA work.

In FA we should be focused primarily on replacing fringe NFL guys with league average guys....that alone will improve the quality of the roster. I would rather overpay a bunch of league average guys by 10% than try and blow the load on the couple of top tier players that maybe available.

There are probably 5ish guys in this draft that are true high end talent, we need one of them....and the fact is two of those will be CBs; two are front 7, and 1 is a RB. There are no Blue Chips LTs or WRs in this draft (with Hunter apparently wanting to be a CB fulltime, with some WR time).

Hunter may improve two positions, but it is also two positions that are weakened if he gets hurt, so that is a double edged sword. If he wanted to play WR full time I would probably be in on him, he is just faster/more explosive/better ball skills than anyone we have, maybe anyone in the draft.

If we end up at two and we don't want Hunter, we should look to trade back no further than 6, get whatever extra picks we get, and pick from whatever remains of the Blue Chips.

This team needs talent.

Drafts should always be a combo of best player available and need. But for this team, it means almost every position except QB and #1 CB.

And the fact that this team has holes everywhere. They may be better off acquiring more high draft picks rather than putting all their eggs in one basket. If they trade down from the #2 spot, they will likely still be picking in the top 10 and as high as 4 or 5 while picking up high draft pick(s) as high as another first. That is the best way to fill out the team with impact talent.

 

[Huckleberry1]

It all depends on our draft position and FA. If we are at 3rd position I would take Hunter with no hesitation ( I hope we will be able to sign Cam Robinson, Holand, Nick Bolton or maybe Higgins ).Differences between OL are slender so I believe there will be a chance to grab someone at the end of 1st or in 2nd .
Different story is if we are at 2nd. Let's trade down a bit, grab extra picks and take Graham ( with Barmore's unclear future DL is a nagging problem ) and then try to pick Burden. Of course our scenarios are based on picks we get.
I am not a fan of taking Carter because I am not sure he can play a full time LB or Edge. McMillan is interesting however I prefer a speedy receiver who can create position and separation.
The bottom line is to find eventually a starters not only situational players.

My concern with MacMillan is separation. You can’t throw contested balls all day in the NFL. At this point I have come to the conclusion that I would take either Hunter or Burden to help at WR.

 

[p8ryts]

My concern with MacMillan is separation. You can’t throw contested balls all day in the NFL. At this point I have come to the conclusion that I would take either Hunter or Burden to help at WR.

I'm sick of these contested catch guys. We've had too many of them, to no avail. Just get someone who can get open, and catch the ball.

 

[mgteich]

I would suggest that the man who rarely, if ever, missed with a top 10 pick, would likely trade down a couple of picks and draft Graham.

There is much, much less risk with a DL than with a WR or CB.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

McMillan says hi

McMillan running a 4.5+ sec 40 yard dash?? Very risky pick for a top 10 guy. 4.5 sec guys can work out, but a lot of them bust.

Hunter at 4.2 to 4.3 sec is a world better.

 

[Kdo5]

If we lose to LAC I think it’s important to find opportunities to throw the final game against the Bills backups to secure Henry.

 

[Ray Ray 717]

I'm sick of these contested catch guys. We've had too many of them, to no avail. Just get someone who can get open, and catch the ball.

McMillan is 6’5! He moves like a slot receiver. He has hands like glue. His YAC is fantastic. He has underrated acceleration and gets open all the time. His game tape is incredible.

He is a top 5 prospect….not some middling 2-3rd round prospect we have drafted in the past.

 

[Ray Ray 717]

McMillan running a 4.5+ sec 40 yard dash?? Very risky pick for a top 10 guy. 4.5 sec guys can work out, but a lot of them bust.

Hunter at 4.2 to 4.3 sec is a world better.

Watch this guy
T Mac is a beast. Incredible yards after catch for his size. Separates elusively and runs routes very fluidly. He is also 6’5!!!

He played against double and triple coverage every game and still heavily produced.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I'm sick of these contested catch guys. We've had too many of them, to no avail. Just get someone who can get open, and catch the ball.

That’s my feeling as well. Pro QB’s are so interception averse that they don’t want to just throw it up for grabs, so if you aren’t open or coming open they look elsewhere. They need to draft guys who are explosive so Maye doesn’t have to throw 50/50 balls.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I would suggest that the man who rarely, if ever, missed with a top 10 pick, would likely trade down a couple of picks and draft Graham.

There is much, much less risk with a DL than with a WR or CB.

I would be fine with Graham as well. When you have Barmore, White, and Graham you have 3 building blocks for a great DL.

 

[KCSVEN]

McMillan is 6’5! He moves like a slot receiver. He has hands like glue. His YAC is fantastic. He has underrated acceleration and gets open all the time. His game tape is incredible.

He is a top 5 prospect….not some middling 2-3rd round prospect we have drafted in the past.

I think Tet will be successful as his size and ability in the red zone will be a huge asset.
His separation numbers were bad in 2023, haven’t found that data yet for 2024 but that’s my #1 metric related to success at next level. He has YAC which is an important metric.
Release and route running need work.
You can’t teach his size. He uses it very well against college DB’s but playing vs Hunter he mostly got shut down outside a couple plays where he used his size.
I don’t see future #1 wr but I see a successful pro. if his 40 time ends up better than the 4.50 range and his 2024 separation data is improved I might change my mind