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I don't understand this love affair with the Colts

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Why is there a love affair with the Colts? Everyone loves a loser. Ask a Cubs fan.
 
GayBrady said:
I don't understand this love affair with the Colts

Odds to win Superbowl next year.

Colts 9-2
Seahawks 6-1
Patriots 6-1
etc.
Remember, the love affair you indicate is the love affair of the bettors. The odds do NOT reflect what the oddsmakers themselves may or may not think about the teams (if they even give any thought to the matter). The oddsmakers job is to post odds that will cause as close to an equal amount of payoff (ie a balanced book) as they can no matter who wins. So what the odds DO reflect is a shrewd guess as to what the betting public will BET on given those odds. So the 'love affair' you mention is with the deluded bettors of which there seem to be an inordinate number for whom hope is eternal that their darling Colts will actually 'do it' this year.

By the way, betting on the Colts this year is a sucker bet. James was a pretty special back and the odds are long that Addai can do well enough to keep defenses from putting a real crush on the Colt's passing game. AND the Colts are BLESSED with a schedule which has them playing the AFC East AND the NFC East this year PLUS Cincinatti and Denver. Jaguars have been steadily improving their team which will be tough competition for 2 more games. That's 12 pretty tough games for the Colts to face. Good luck Ponies - and that's not even likely to get them to the playoffs.
 
The media are Colts junkies...

They have been picking them for so long they are just going to ride their train and hopefully if the Colts do win the SB someday they can say, "Told you so."
 
At this point I think the deciding factor this season will be the development of the younger LB's like TBC, Beisel, and Claridge. Until we know how they will play and step in for Willie M and Ted J, from an outsider's view this season could go either way.
 
GayBrady said:
I don't understand this love affair with the Colts

Too bad you never met BradyBirdYazOrr, GayBrady - he didn't like the Colts either and was always going off on anti-Colts rants too. (Of course, he didn't seem to like gays either - though ironically he'd probably be pleased to see the feathers you've ruffled with your name and avatar!) You really just missed him by a few days as he was just recently banned.

In response to your question, the media desperately wants to be "right" in their adoration of Peyton Manning as a SuperStar

As such they will continue to predict his success until one day - they hope - they are proven right.
 
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Ice Cold Bruschi said:
My rationelle for how I think we got worse is simply this, we lost our best reciever and replaced him with a rookie. We lost our best pass rusher and replaced him with [blank]. And we lost the best kicker in the game and replaced him with a rookie. And some key players on D- Bruschi, Rodney, and Vrabel- got older and added to their injury history. And as for strengthening the o-line, Koppen's future is unclear and there are concerns about Light.

Givens wasn't our best receiver.

McGinest wasn't our best pass rusher.

Vinatieri isn't the best kicker in the league. Most clutch, yes, but best overall? Not with that leg he isn't.

Your argument that we lost the best pass rusher on the team conflicts your argument about Tedy, Rodney and Vrabel getting older. Everyone on the team got older. Tedy is going to be healthy again. Rodney should be back. Vrabel may well play his preferred position at OLB.

Not sure I see such major questions about Light beyond who plays LT.

Koppen's future is in doubt for 2007. Most expect him around for 2006.

Now calculate adding the draft choices, FAs and the returning injured players...and tell me again how we are worse...?
 
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Flying Fungi said:
Givens wasn't our best receiver.

McGinest wasn't our best pass rusher.

Vinatieri isn't the best kicker in the league. Most clutch, yes, but best overall? Not with that leg he isn't.

Your argument that we lost the best pass rusher on the team conflicts your argument about Tedy, Rodney and Vrabel getting older. Everyone on the team got older. Tedy is going to be healthy again. Rodney should be back. Vrabel may well play his preferred position at OLB.

Not sure I see such major questions about Light beyond who plays LT.

Koppen's future is in doubt for 2007. Most expect him around for 2006.

Now calculate adding the draft choices, FAs and the returning injured players...and tell me again how we are worse...?



Whether we are better of worse remains to be seen - we've certainly lost some good contributors, gained a few interesting rookies, and have a few players coming back from injury as well.

The bottom line is that with the possible exception of choosing to franchise AV, keeping all those players was NOT an option, making debate over the issue of whether their absence is good or bad irrelevant.
 
USA Today has Pats 6-1

...Colts 6-1, everybody else in the pack behind. I think the 8th best team was the Steelers at something like 15-1.

Like it matters. They play football games on fields not in newspapers and web pages.

PFnV
 
JoeSixPat said:
Whether we are better of worse remains to be seen - we've certainly lost some good contributors, gained a few interesting rookies, and have a few players coming back from injury as well.

The bottom line is that with the possible exception of choosing to franchise AV, keeping all those players was NOT an option, making debate over the issue of whether their absence is good or bad irrelevant.

I concur wholeheartedly. My curiosity was in regards to the conclusions presented as evidence by the original poster.
 
Ice Cold Bruschi said:
I don't understand their love affair with us, of course I'm rooting for the pats, but we got worse in the offseason but we're tied in second for best odds with Seattle.
OH MY GAHD, we lost MR. PEY ME A TON VINATAERI, Old Willie and Davey Givens.

We got Maroney, Jackson, Caldwell, Warfield, TEBUCKY!!!! We are awesome. :rocker:
 
JoeSixPat said:
The bottom line is that with the possible exception of choosing to franchise AV, keeping all those players was NOT an option, making debate over the issue of whether their absence is good or bad irrelevant.
My understanding is that AV was very unhappy aobut being franchised and the Patriots said they wouldn'tdo it twice, but would negotiate a long term deal or let him go.

They kept their word and did not ranchise him again, as promised. Although they certainly could have, the Pats are more about team, and a very unhappy player forced to be on the team agaisnthis will can kind of wereck locker room chemistry.

It would have been nice to keep him. Ithink if he stayed he had a decent shot at the HoF. But it is chis choice. Now he is a Colt, and I ampulling for himto pull his kicks.
 
JoeSixPat said:
The bottom line is that with the possible exception of choosing to franchise AV, keeping all those players was NOT an option, making debate over the issue of whether their absence is good or bad irrelevant.

That ignores the possibility that the Pats could have extended those players in 2005. Example - if the Pats made Adam their best offer in 2005 Adam may be a Patriot today.
 
Miguel said:
That ignores the possibility that the Pats could have extended those players in 2005. Example - if the Pats made Adam their best offer in 2005 Adam may be a Patriot today.

Key word being 'may'. I think that clearly for some reason Adam wanted to leave. Thus, The Vinitraitor!
 
The Clots are not even likely to win thier division, JMHO. The Jax Jags will...
 
Miguel said:
The Colts lost 2 players (Tripplett and Thornton) and that's a dismantling of their defense??

When those two players are two thirds of your defense, the answer is yes....
 
Ice Cold Bruschi said:
My rationelle for how I think we got worse is simply this, we lost our best reciever and replaced him with a rookie. We lost our best pass rusher and replaced him with [blank]. And we lost the best kicker in the game and replaced him with a rookie. And some key players on D- Bruschi, Rodney, and Vrabel- got older and added to their injury history. And as for strengthening the o-line, Koppen's future is unclear and there are concerns about Light.

Now on the positive side we have alot of guys who gained alot of experience next year which SHOULD only make them better, but that is never a garauntee.

And I do think its bull**** that the Colts are on top, I also think its bull**** that the Eagles are that high as well.

Givens was not "our best" WR. No way. No how. If anything you should have tried to make the argument that he was as good as Branch, but certainly, no better.
 
spacecrime said:
My understanding is that AV was very unhappy aobut being franchised and the Patriots said they wouldn'tdo it twice, but would negotiate a long term deal or let him go.
actually we did franchise him twice...but not thrice..and he returned the favor with a big ol stab to our back
 
Richter said:
Maybe it's because their so-called championship is as fraudulent as their coach.
You said what we are all thinking...thanks
 
Mike the Brit said:
If I were a betting man, I'd have some Dolphins at 40-1. Otherwise, I don't see much value there.

That line for the Jags is tempting too... everyone always overlooks the amount of young talent they actually have
 
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