Hoyer...upon reflection

[MoLewisrocks]

Personally, I don't understand the big deal. Mallett was drafted in the 3rd round and was expected to need a year to develop and beat out Hoyer this year. We paid Hoyer a couple of million of insurance money just in case. Mallett beat out Hoyer.

They didn't pay Hoyer a nickel and Mallett didn't beat him out. This decision was all about money and perceived ceiling and sadly probably ego. They tendered Hoyer where they did because they didn't like their first round talent all of last season. Had they tendered him at his compensation free undrafted level, he'd have had lots of suitors. Just not for a #2. That's all Cassel warranted after an 11-5 regular season. The system QB label scares suitors away. Then Mallett showed up in camp svelter and they decided he had some drive which must mean he's coachable. His mechanics, decision making and accuracy remain about where they were a year ago. His arm comes in handy when he takes too long to make a decision and has to try and fit the ball in a small window of his own creation. It also leads him to make some bad decisions. They seem to think they can clean that all up over the course of another season. Thing is likelong habits or lack thereof don't tend to just clean up. Guys revert to form under pressure. The more issues you have and are trying to overcome, the less likely it is you will. And in the meantime he is one snap away from your starting QB.

Hoyer will have interest. It will be interesting to see if KC or some other team Qb starved team like Miami lets him get through waivers. He would certainly have more value to KC based on their offense than another team. Quinn was named the backup 4 days ago after a pretty uninspiring pre season, but he responded in week 4 with a horrendous performance and a neck injury to boot. And Cassel isn't exactly on solid ground. He started the pre season strong and has gone down hill since.

 

[shmessy]

Here is the reality:




Basically the Pats were doing everything possible to make teams believe Hoyer was still fighting for the spot with Mallett when in reality he wasn't. Teams knew that and wouldn't give up anything of value ALONG with paying his salary when they knew he was getting cut.

Please. It's not just just his trading value NOW.

In two weeks when 2-3 QB's go down to injury around the NFL, Hoyer wouldn't have been a good trading chip?

Is Marcus Forston THAT vital?

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Please. It's not just just his trading value NOW.

In two weeks when 2-3 QB's go down to injury around the NFL, Hoyer wouldn't have been a good trading chip?

Is Marcus Forston THAT vital?

They made no effort to showcase Hoyer EVER. And this pre season it was all about showcasing Mallet internally - trying to figure out WTF he is. They still aren't sure but they don't want to admit that, even to themselves. And according to multiple sources they made little if any effort to trade him.

This was all about the money. Bill has wasted so much of it of late that Hoyer became a tipping point. We better not be heading down that road with the #1. What if he too appears to have hit his ceiling with a $22M cap hit while Mallett continues to inch towards his for mere pennies. Forget the gap between the two ceilings, do you go with the cheaper guy with remaining potential? That seems to be Bill's new philosophy...

 

[shmessy]

They made no effort to showcase Hoyer EVER. And this pre season it was all about showcasing Mallet internally - trying to figure out WTF he is. They still aren't sure but they don't want to admit that, even to themselves. And according to multiple sources they made little if any effort to trade him.

This was all about the money. Bill has wasted so much of it of late that Hoyer became a tipping point. We better not be heading down that road with the #1. What if he too appears to have hit his ceiling with a $22M cap hit while Mallett continues to inch towards his for mere pennies. Forget the gap between the two ceilings, do you go with the cheaper guy with remaining potential? That seems to be Bill's new philosophy...

I'm NOT arguing Mallet vs. Hoyer. I agree - - I'd rather keep Mallet.

My argument is Third Nipple/11th (ELEVENTH!) Defensive Lineman Marcus Forston vs. Hoyer - - who WOULD be a trading chip in 2 weeks when 2-3 QB's go down to injury. Teams in that situation don't necessarily look for a rocket arm - - just a SMART QB who can manage a game on short notice.

People are arguing that he doesn't have value NOW. Of course. But in 2 weeks he WOULD. An extra 4th or 5th rounder would have been better than "risking" the waiving of a Forston.