Honestly have no idea how that Defense can be fixed

[PatriotsPimp136]

Seattle's offensive line had two UDFA at tackle, and the rest are late round draft picks and still the pats couldn't mount any pressure!!

Fixing the defense, at least this year, is not the question, the real question is why did BB break it to begin with?

I like flowers. I hope he keep's getting alot of snaps. Chris Long has been a dead corpse

 

[PatsFan2]

Good points Ted that was disturbing don't know who runs Pete Carroll's scouting department but they are leagues ahead of the Patriots. Brady cannot play for ever but he has covered up a lot of deficiencies on this Team.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Fixing the defense, at least this year, is not the question, the real question is why did BB break it to begin with?

He overthinks things sometimes, i.e., player X is not going to be here in 2017 so let's trade him now and get something for him. Normally i like that kind of foresight, but not with a contending team. I would almost rather have jones and collins back if it meant ring #5. If we lose those guys in 2017 then it will be much easier to let them go after securing another title.

And were jones and collins that much of a lockerroom cancer?

 

[PatriotsPimp136]

He overthinks things sometimes, i.e., player X is not going to be here in 2017 so let's trade him now and get something for him. Normally i like that kind of foresight, but not with a contending team. I would almost rather have jones and collins back if it meant ring #5. 2017 can wait.

Season's not over. I feel this team can get to the superbowl. Let's hope they can tweak the defense a lil. Lot's of games remaining.

 

[PatsFan2]

He overthinks things sometimes, i.e., player X is not going to be here in 2017 so let's trade him now and get something for him. Normally i like that kind of foresight, but not with a contending team. I would almost rather have jones and collins back if it meant ring #5. If we lose those guys in 2017 then it will be much easier to let them go after securing another title.

And were jones and collins that much of a lockerroom cancer?

Exellent Post! couldn't agree more.

 

[BobDigital]

Worse defensive game of the season but they are usually better than this. They need to play better and scheme better.

the 2 man rush is a horrible mistake. We don't have the guys who cover for that long no matter how many are thrown out there. 3 isn't much better. We need to 4 rush all the time.

They need to have McCourty take a little more risk vs these good offenses and cheat more
They need to put Rowe in at CB the rest of the year and just stick with it and hope for the best. I do believe Butler/Rowe/Ryan is your best option and you need need to slot them in and ride it out.
More Flowers.

That is all really... That and play better which they can.

 

[Love The Drake]

Gilmore has been a disaster this season. Bills fans don't want him back; they're just worried about whether he'll still get them a decent comp pick or if he has ruined his value too much for that.

Id bring him in and try to fix him.
I want tall defensivebacks who dont get outjumped on majority of plays

 

[AvocadoIceCream]

I care more about January than about now.

Uhh I don't think they will be better in January without those three then with those three..... wtf?

 

[luuked]

Uhh I don't think they will be better in January without those three then with those three..... wtf?

Uhh... I think we might be better because more consistent then. I guess you forgot that "Do your job" was the mantra long before it became a marketing gimmick and that's what it boils down to.

Like I said before I prefer a solid player like Ninkovich over inconsistent, unreliable players like Collins. I rather take the 2-3 yard loss on plays knowing this is the worst it will be over a player where it can go from sack to 28 yard loss. And I'd say that the coaching staff also values reliability and consistency over players that go often up but then also sometimes down.

And all three players had some form of inconsistency in common. Out of those three Chandler Jones was the only one who actually seemed to be leadership material and who could be of use this year. Unfortunately, the way he was used here would have never matched the money he was expecting on his first real contract so it was the end of line here anyway. In return we got at least 4-5 cheap years of Thuney and Mitchell, so that's also the one trade that delivered on a value scale.

 

[luuked]

But I guess Chatham is another homer that can't be critical right ?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

But I guess Chatham is another homer that can't be critical right ?

If it's not scheme then it's talent or the players weren't doing the right thing.

 

[TennisBallHead]

Good points Ted that was disturbing don't know who runs Pete Carroll's scouting department but they are leagues ahead of the Patriots. Brady cannot play for ever but he has covered up a lot of deficiencies on this Team.

LOL, we don't know how good the Pats scouts are because Bill overrules them all the time. They tell him a player is worth a 4th round pick and Bill takes him in the 1st.

 

[AvocadoIceCream]

Uhh... I think we might be better because more consistent then. I guess you forgot that "Do your job" was the mantra long before it became a marketing gimmick and that's what it boils down to.

Like I said before I prefer a solid player like Ninkovich over inconsistent, unreliable players like Collins. I rather take the 2-3 yard loss on plays knowing this is the worst it will be over a player where it can go from sack to 28 yard loss. And I'd say that the coaching staff also values reliability and consistency over players that go often up but then also sometimes down.

And all three players had some form of inconsistency in common. Out of those three Chandler Jones was the only one who actually seemed to be leadership material and who could be of use this year. Unfortunately, the way he was used here would have never matched the money he was expecting on his first real contract so it was the end of line here anyway. In return we got at least 4-5 cheap years of Thuney and Mitchell, so that's also the one trade that delivered on a value scale.

Thanks for your opinion Bill

 

[Tony2046]

If it's not scheme then it's talent or the players weren't doing the right thing.

If you factor in fumbles (lost one) and an interception the defense would have been good enough to win Sunday night although they could have played better.

 

[thecore762]

This team sucks at zone defense, got to go man to man and really let out safeties go in, blitz more, I want us to be more aggressive, even if we get burned once in a while it's worth taking risks, if we do that then people will respect our defense.

 

[Mack Herron]

Obviously confidence in the defense took a hit this week. Not hearing any panic from players or coaches though; just the opposite in fact. I have little doubt the defense will be improved Sunday. The question is where it will be in a month.

 

[luuked]

Good points Ted that was disturbing don't know who runs Pete Carroll's scouting department but they are leagues ahead of the Patriots. Brady cannot play for ever but he has covered up a lot of deficiencies on this Team.

Exactly what even remotely successful player have the Seahawks drafted since 2012 ? Tyler Lockett ?

They got Earl Thomas and Bruce Irvin with top15 round 1 picks. If memory serves Bobby Wagner was a top 50 pick. The only really surprising draft hits they had were Chancellor and Sherman in 2010 and 2011.

Have you checked where we have been drafting relative to them for the majority of that time period ? This Seahawks drafting narrative is the same kind of myth as the Ozzie Newsome drafting narrative. The draft remains a crapshoot where sometimes teams hit late and others miss early on.

 

[luuked]

This team sucks at zone defense, got to go man to man and really let out safeties go in, blitz more, I want us to be more aggressive, even if we get burned once in a while it's worth taking risks, if we do that then people will respect our defense.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Exactly what even remotely successful player have the Seahawks drafted since 2012 ? Tyler Lockett ?

They got Earl Thomas and Bruce Irvin with top15 round 1 picks. If memory serves Bobby Wagner was a top 50 pick. The only really surprising draft hits they had were Chancellor and Sherman in 2010 and 2011.

Have you checked where we have been drafting relative to them for the majority of that time period ? This Seahawks drafting narrative is the same kind of myth as the Ozzie Newsome drafting narrative. The draft remains a crapshoot where sometimes teams hit late and others miss early on.

umm Frank Clark, Tyler Lockett, C.J Prossie....

 

[luuked]

umm Frank Clark, Tyler Lockett, C.J Prossie....

So in other words no special players since 2012. Made my point I guess..