Hindsight being 20/20 are the Patriots the biggest LOSERS of the 2019 draft?

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Are the Patriots LOSERS of the 2019 draft?

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 35.1%
  • No

    Votes: 24 64.9%

  • Total voters
    37

VJCPatriot

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Here's an article that sums up the Patriots trades on draft day 2019:

What became of Patriots’ traded-away 2019 draft picks?

To summarize, we gave up Mecole Hardman who contributed right away as a KC Chief 500 yards and 6 scores plus 700 return yards and 1 return TD, DK Metcalf who contributed straight away as a Seahawk with 900 yards and 7 scores, and David Montgomery who contributed to Chicago right away with 1,000 yards and 7 scores, amongst other assets.

Our best pick out of the draft to date is punter Jake Bailey at #163.

Did the Patriots get too cute with their wheeling and dealing or are their scouts just THAT BAD?
 

Danger Zone

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Here's an article that sums up the Patriots trades on draft day 2019:

What became of Patriots’ traded-away 2019 draft picks?

To summarize, we gave up Mecole Hardman who contributed right away as a KC Chief 500 yards and 6 scores plus 700 return yards and 1 return TD, DK Metcalf who contributed straight away as a Seahawk with 900 yards and 7 scores, and David Montgomery who contributed to Chicago right away with 1,000 yards and 7 scores, amongst other assets.

Our best pick out of the draft to date is punter Jake Bailey at #163.

Did the Patriots get too cute with their wheeling and dealing or are their scouts just THAT BAD?
Why did 31 other NFL teams not take this guy with their picks 1-63?
 

DarrylS

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How many times are we going to reframe the same subject, how come we passed on player A when we could have had player b???..

Most other teams passed on the same player B as did the NEP..

Biggest losers, good draft or great draft the jury is still out.. lets revisit this in Jan. 2021...
 

Sciz

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How can you define a “biggest loser” while evaluating no other candidates?
 

Nehalem

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Here's an article that sums up the Patriots trades on draft day 2019:

What became of Patriots’ traded-away 2019 draft picks?

To summarize, we gave up Mecole Hardman who contributed right away as a KC Chief 500 yards and 6 scores plus 700 return yards and 1 return TD, DK Metcalf who contributed straight away as a Seahawk with 900 yards and 7 scores, and David Montgomery who contributed to Chicago right away with 1,000 yards and 7 scores, amongst other assets.

Our best pick out of the draft to date is punter Jake Bailey at #163.

Did the Patriots get too cute with their wheeling and dealing or are their scouts just THAT BAD?
To be fair Hardman had only 6 catches over the last 7 games. This is half as many as Harry had. :eek:
 

jmt57

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Isn't a bit early to evaluate the 2019 draft when doing so with hindsight?


If we are going to only evaluate the first-year performance of the 2019 draft class, then the Patriots, Chargers, Cowboys and Lions are the frontrunners for the bottom of the barrel. Not sure which one of those four is worst.


If we are going to evaluate the one-year return on investment of the 2019 traded draft picks then why did the author not include Danny Shelton (received in exchange for a 2019 third round pick)?
 

maust1013

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Isn't a bit early to evaluate the 2019 draft when doing so with hindsight?




If we are going to evaluate the one-year return on investment of the 2019 traded draft picks then why did the author not include Danny Shelton (received in exchange for a 2019 third round pick)?

 

Ice_Ice_Brady

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Here's an article that sums up the Patriots trades on draft day 2019:

What became of Patriots’ traded-away 2019 draft picks?

To summarize, we gave up Mecole Hardman who contributed right away as a KC Chief 500 yards and 6 scores plus 700 return yards and 1 return TD, DK Metcalf who contributed straight away as a Seahawk with 900 yards and 7 scores, and David Montgomery who contributed to Chicago right away with 1,000 yards and 7 scores, amongst other assets.

Our best pick out of the draft to date is punter Jake Bailey at #163.

Did the Patriots get too cute with their wheeling and dealing or are their scouts just THAT BAD?
“Gave up Hardman” is an asinine take from the draft. Good for the Chiefs for picking a really fast guy whose strengths are sure to stand out as the #4/5 option in that offense. But it’s intellectually dishonest to equate trading the pick with losing out on a player they were unlikely to draft anyway, considering they had already drafted a WR.

It’s sufficient to say the early returns on the WR class really make the early returns on Harry sting even more.
 
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203Pat

In the Starting Line-Up
When you’re a team that’s desperate for young healthy talent and you have a second and third round pick as healthy scratches most of the year that isn’t a good draft.
 

billdog3484

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dumb thread...how can you say we are the big losers of the draft at this point?

harry still could be good. he had moments where he looked pretty good, just seemed to have difficulty staying healthy and understanding the offense.

joejuan williams was a disappointment this year, but i didnt see anything to make me think he was awful.

winovich was a good player, should be a decent player for a bunch of years.

damien harris we really dont know. i am disappointed we didnt see more of him but nothing i have heard leads me to think he sucks.

we drafted 2 raw lineman, include cajuste who apparently has talent and wouldve gone higher if not for an injury.

plus jarrett stidham, who i dont think is going to be great but we have heard a lot of good things about him

i think if you want to say the 2019 draft class was disappointing in that it didnt help us in 2019, then i agree. but i dont think in terms of the long run we know if we were the losers of the draft. plus, we drafted last in every round, so we have that going against us.

in sum, i think your post is awful
 

betterthanthealternative

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“Gave up Hardman” is an asinine take from the draft. Good for the Chiefs for picking a really fast guy whose strengths are sure to stand out as the #4/5 option in that offense. But it’s intellectually dishonest to equate trading the pick with losing out on a player they were unlikely to draft anyway, considering they had already drafted a WR.

It’s sufficient to say the early returns on the WR class really make the early returns on Harry sting even more.
To qualify as "intellectually dishonest" something has to contain intellectual content.

Heat-seeking attempts for misery don't qualify.
 

patsinthesnow

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Yes when you get an edge rusher in the third round that plays part time in a BB defense:

30% snaps
5.5 sacks
23 pressures
2nd highest PFF grade among rookies (Bosa)
4th most productive on a per snap basis (Bosa, Allen, Burns)

The punter is the best pick in the draft.

Also, the correct hindsight WR is AJ Brown IMO.
 

BUSTAMOVE

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Once again. We suck at drafting. Our scouts stink. BB is a horrible evaluator.

We have a certain system that some players will not fit into no matter how well they played in another system (ex:Ochocinco). Also Brady, Edleman, Wilfork, Seymour, McCourty, Samuel, Vareen, White, Gronk, Light, C Jones, Hightower, Slater, Branch, Solder, Warren, Vareen, Collins, Watson, Vollmer, Mankins, Mayo etc only to mention a few turned out very good.

Some of you guys think that all the other teams hit on every draft pick but in reality they are in the same boat as us. It’s a crap shoot. 70% (fact) of your draft picks will not make the team or be a bust. But with the Patriots we have a specific system on all 3 sides of the ball which limit the specific type of player needed. Not all will work out. Some will. Some will be Stars.

BB plugs in certain types of players for certain positions and gets one or two more same type of player for depth. Plug and play. A certain type of player can be a star somewhere else but flat out stink here.

If you feel that other teams are better talent evaluators then go buy one of their jerseys. Betcha none of them won 6 SB’s, 9 SB appearances in a 20 years.

Another Fact.. It takes 6 years to truthfully Evaluate a draft pick. Some look great out of the blocks but stumble later. Some look slow out of the blocks but become solid players. Few are stars from start to finish



With all due respect some of you are spoiled little brats. This is the greatest dynasty for a sustained period of time. Enjoy it

Edit..I think you would have had a more meaningful poll if you eliminated this nonsense and went with “What is better Big Mac or Whopper”
 
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aluminum seats

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Lol it takes you 5 years to see if someone is good or bad?
I think it’s better to wait to really be able to analyze a draft. Of course you can see how things are trending in year one or year two, but the full picture emerges later.
 
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