Halfway mark check - how many wins for the Pats in 2024?

[sb1]

Bill's have the 49ers and Chiefs coming up and if we could beat them twice that's 6 losses. Just saying.

I think the Bills match up well with KC. They're still my pick to come out of the AFC.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

9 games left, predicting 6-3 assuming Maye is back for the Bears game:
@ Tenn: W
@ Chi: W
Rams: L
@ Mia: L
Indy: W
Bye
@ AZ: W
@ Buf: L
Chargers: W
Buf: W = final record of 8-9

The wins after the bye week are the most questionable, but AZ is right after our bye, the Chargers are here in late December, and the Bills may have nothing to play for and rest everybody.

 

[signbabybrady]

I think the Bills match up well with KC. They're still my pick to come out of the AFC.

Bill's are a poor man's version of the 90s they are destined to loose a couple more times to the Chiefs and never even make a SB.

 

[festy1986]

It was a long time ago but I remember a team at the turn of the century who didn't have a number 1 pick one year, selected 6 the following year without trading back, skipped on the weapon everyone thought we desperately needed, and took a 5tech DL despite still needing to replace a decade long LT and then got that LT in Rd 2.

Trading back is certainly not the only way.

If Maye is the guy we think he is then we are afforded some flexibility in getting the drafts wrong.

 

[festy1986]

9 games left, predicting 6-3 assuming Maye is back for the Bears game:
@ Tenn: W
@ Chi: W
Rams: L
@ Mia: L
Indy: W
Bye
@ AZ: W
@ Buf: L
Chargers: W
Buf: W = final record of 8-9

The wins after the bye week are the most questionable, but AZ is right after our bye, the Chargers are here in late December, and the Bills may have nothing to play for and rest everybody.

They are not beating Chicago, Indy, Arizona or the chargers lol.

1 and 3 at best.

 

[Kdo5]

The WRs have become the achilles heel of this offense, not the line. We lost at least one game due to one of our receivers.

If they got their head out of their ass we could win a few more games.

 

[sb1]

Bill's are a poor man's version of the 90s they are destined to loose a couple more times to the Chiefs and never even make a SB.

The Bills are 2-2 vs KC in the regular season since 2020 so they can hang with them. They've also come too close to beating the Chiefs the last couple of times in the playoffs. They are due for one of these close ones to go their way IMO.

 

[signbabybrady]

The Bills are 2-2 vs KC in the regular season since 2020 so they can hang with them. They've also come too close to beating the Chiefs the last couple of times in the playoffs. They are due for one of these close ones to go their way IMO.

They were due for a SB to break their way too. They're still waiting.

 

[sb1]

They were due for a SB to break their way too. They're still waiting.

Eh they were only competitive in one Super Bowl. The "break" on the kicked ball didn't go their way lol

 

[Wozzy]

2006 riddled with injury lost to Denver divisional
2007 pissed down our pants in AFCCG
2008 ugh... no need to even mention
2009 lost at home to Ravens
2010 loss at home to Jets in divisional
2011 made it to superbowl lost again
2012 lost at home to Ravens AFCCG
2013 lost at Denver in playoffs
2014 won against Seahawks

So that 10 year stretch we didn't win your summizing that was bradys fault?

I didn’t say it was Brady’s fault, but I also didn’t attribute 20+ years of success to one player like you did… that’s garbage.

Brady doesn’t have 7 rings and his peers, the best of the best, have one or none because Tom was six times better than they were.

It’s a team sport, it takes a team to win a ring. When Brady won a ring it’s because he had the best team around him. Peyton Manning had to play the Patriot defense, not Tom.

It’s hard to win a ring, just because the dynasty made it look easy doesn’t make it so.

 

[Real fan 02]

Taking a bad Patriots team completely devoid of talent and making them great by coaching? I don't think so. That's not his fault because that can't be done.

A coach of Bill's pedigree can turn a good team into a great one (and he has) and also prevent a subpar team from completely cratering (he's done that too at least until last season) but coaching just can't turn a bad team into a great one. It's all about having good players.

Absolutely correct. I pinpointed that teams comparable to where we are.. Washington and Chicago. Both have rookie QBs. Washington new ownership and coaching staff. They are far more talented as a roster than we are currently. For example give Drake McLaren or Keenan Allen. Or DJ Moore he would be even better.

 

[Wozzy]

Yeah I agree the OL is a joke.. however we do have a find with Benny brown. I believe he makes it easier to transition from Andrews. Our WRs aren't terrible I'd say just not game changers.

He got smoked multiple times yesterday by Quinnen Williams and came back to Earth. The opposition matters.

The coaches have to get on the WR’s and have them do better.

 

[Real fan 02]

I didn’t say it was Brady’s fault, but I also didn’t attribute 20+ years of success to one player like you did… that’s garbage.

Brady doesn’t have 7 rings and his peers, the best of the best, have one or none because Tom was six times better than they were.

It’s a team sport, it takes a team to win a ring. When Brady won a ring it’s because he had the best team around him. Peyton Manning had to play the Patriot defense, not Tom.

It’s hard to win a ring, just because the dynasty made it look easy doesn’t make it so.

I never said it was "just" brady.. I simply mention he had ALOT to do with it. A coach can coach all they want if brady never executed than the offense doesn't score. The job of the players is to execute, and allow their talent to make plays.

 

[Real fan 02]

He got smoked multiple times yesterday by Quinnen Williams and came back to Earth. The opposition matters.

The coaches have to get on the WR’s and have them do better.

Brown has been far from the problem. Dave Andrews got handled by quinnen Williams too. Quinnen is a top 5 DL..

 

[farn]

Lucky to get back to 4.

 

[sb1]

I didn’t say it was Brady’s fault, but I also didn’t attribute 20+ years of success to one player like you did… that’s garbage.

Brady doesn’t have 7 rings and his peers, the best of the best, have one or none because Tom was six times better than they were.

How many of those peers have 7 rings from someone else?

It’s a team sport, it takes a team to win a ring. When Brady won a ring it’s because he had the best team around him. Peyton Manning had to play the Patriot defense, not Tom.

It's interesting how Brady has more rings than any other player in NFL history - and the Dilfer's, Flaccos and the rest of the "along for the ride" QB's never have more than one. Not that hard to understand why.

Brady beat Peyton Manning several times in an era where Peyton Manning also got to benefit from rules that favor the passing game. So yes wins and rings are team stats but downplaying the QB's role in those wins is shortsighted. He outplayed his peers.

It’s hard to win a ring, just because the dynasty made it look easy doesn’t make it so.

I can think of one former Patriots QB who made it look easy.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

In the preseason prediction thread, I had us at 2-6 by this point, and I had four for the season. So feeling like it's 4 with a fifth possible.

Not much to add to that. 4, maybe 5.

 

[PatsFan2]

Tennessee, Arizona, Chicago, Miami and San Diego The Chargers are all winnable.

Don't sleep on Arizona: Maye would have to play lights out to give us a chance...Murray is playing very good.

 

[PatsFan2]

6-7 wins = Tennessee - Bears - Colts and maybe one of the Dolphins/Chargers. The Rams - Dolphins - Cardinals and *Bills twice* might have too much on Offense for us to defend. That said Injuries can even the playing field.

 

[Steve102]

Don't sleep on Arizona: Maye would have to play lights out to give us a chance...Murray is playing very good.

I guess what I am saying is that none of those teams are juggernauts that are playing at Super Bowl type levels. I know the Any Given Sunday thing, but I don't think any of us place those teams as elite NFL competition.