Godchaux Speaks Out on his contract

[Real fan 02]

The same year he drafted Patrick Chung, Julian Edelman and Sebastian Vollmer… thanks Bill.

Agreed. Chung became a dam good player his 2nd time around. Jules was one of the best playoff performers in team history. Volmer was an absolute beast..

 

[captain stone]

Wilfork signed his deal in 2010. I wouldn't say it was leverage at the time because Brace was just drafted. But, the intention was for Brace to show enough in a year to where they could play hardball with Wilfork. That didn't happen and Bill probably quickly realized this. He had no idea where to put Brace on the field. That was one of the most idiotic selections during Bill's tenure. That 2009 draft could've been like the 2019 dynasty killing draft if it weren't for the bounce back 2010 draft and Brady playing forever.

I forgot about those 6-year rookie contracts then; but I do remember Ben Watson's agent, Tom Condon IIRC, putting-up a big stink about them...

 

[captain stone]

I believe what cap'n is basically saying is Bill knew Vince was on a long rookie deal when those crazy 6 year contracts were handed out.. so Bill knew Vince contract was coming up.. Brace a local guy, solid player at BC he had envionsed him playing next to Vince.. however I'm sure Vince likely took it as his replacement. Especially how Bill played hardball with him. Just my 2 cent..

Seems that Brace was mostly gravy-training BJ Raji at BC... I was hoping for Connor Barwin with one of those back-to-back picks...

 

[Real fan 02]

Seems that Brace was mostly gravy-training BJ Raji at BC... I was hoping for Connor Barwin with one of those back-to-back picks...

Yes Raji was the guy I wanted.. but GB took him he had a pretty good NFL career.. sadly it was only a matter of time when you pick a player in brace with a heart condition.. I mean just what goes into that type of thinking?

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

Agreed. Chung became a dam good player his 2nd time around. Jules was one of the best playoff performers in team history. Volmer was an absolute beast..

And wasn’t Chung mediocre when he went to the Iggles?

 

[Real fan 02]

And wasn’t Chung mediocre when he went to the Iggles?

He was. I believe the problem was whether he was a FS or SS..

 

[TheRainMaker]

Seems that Brace was mostly gravy-training BJ Raji at BC... I was hoping for Connor Barwin with one of those back-to-back picks...

It made sense as they just traded Vrabel. Conner Barwin was a hot name thrown around by media and fans. Clay Matthews was also a hot name for the Pats to take with their 1st round pick.

And wasn’t Chung mediocre when he went to the Iggles?

He was. I believe the problem was whether he was a FS or SS..

He was a SS in college, but Bill forced him to play FS where he wasn't good. Bill admitted he made a mistake with Chung. Chung was awful with the Eagles as well. Bill also forced Darius Butler on the outside where he was clearly struggled. I loved the Butler pick and Deion Sanders hyped him up, but he wasn't an outside CB.

When you think about it, one of the only reasons why McCourty moved to S was because Chung was injured. Had Chung not gotten injured, McCourty would've stayed at CB where he was getting historically toasted and his regression started in the Divisional Round against the Jets in 2010. He was getting worse each year and he actually may have left a lot sooner had he never made the switch to S.

 

[The Trickster]

I think we've seen Godchaux's ceiling. He's been basically the same player since 2020. He's a perfectly cromulent DT, but plays a devalued position.

The question for the FO is do we overpay for another devalued position (RB, S and potentially RG are already getting big money), or do we take advantage of 4 more years of cost controlled QB play and build the best roster we can as fast as we can to contend once he's ready? We have the cap space for the latter, but there will need to be a plan B at those positions in another 3 - 4 years.

Thank you. I didn't watch the Simpsons much.
I had to look up the word.
Love it!!

 

[Real fan 02]

It made sense as they just traded Vrabel. Conner Barwin was a hot name thrown around by media and fans. Clay Matthews was also a hot name for the Pats to take with their 1st round pick.


He was a SS in college, but Bill forced him to play FS where he wasn't good. Bill admitted he made a mistake with Chung. Chung was awful with the Eagles as well. Bill also forced Darius Butler on the outside where he was clearly struggled. I loved the Butler pick and Deion Sanders hyped him up, but he wasn't an outside CB.

When you think about it, one of the only reasons why McCourty moved to S was because Chung was injured. Had Chung not gotten injured, McCourty would've stayed at CB where he was getting historically toasted and his regression started in the Divisional Round against the Jets in 2010. He was getting worse each year and he actually may have left a lot sooner had he never made the switch to S.

Yes! Boy we had some horrible secondaries from about 09- 2013.. McCourty has a great rookie season.. they actually had historic amount of turnovers in the secondary.. alot of that was teams didn't believe their CBs could cover.. dmac moving to FS was the best thing for him and the patriots.. guy tuned into an all pro at FS.. that division game ugh!! Once crumpler dropped that end zone TD that should have told us how the game would go.. had it not been for brady putting up 40 each game we'd had been up ****s creek defensively those years..

 

[Real fan 02]

Thank you. I didn't watch the Simpsons much.
I had to look up the word.
Love it!!

I don't have a cow man!

 

[Huckleberry1]

Agreed Wozzy with everything. But the thought is posters are saying that '"if" the team can come to a agreement with and he decides to sit out. Then it's next man up.. he's a solid piece in the middle.. but he's not a game wrecking player like a judon, Barmore, peppers.. not slight on goddy...

I remember when bill didn't want to pay Vince until RK got involved.

Godchaux and Wilfork are in different universes. Godchaux is a good defensive tackle. Wilfork belongs in the Hall of Fame. They don’t belong in the same conversation. Kraft should stay out of this completely and let Wolf and his staff deal with the issue.

 

[Huckleberry1]

His current contract situation...

12 million a year s close to his actual value. I could see them giving him a bump, but no one is going to pay him 20 million a season.

 

[Real fan 02]

Godchaux and Wilfork are in different universes. Godchaux is a good defensive tackle. Wilfork belongs in the Hall of Fame. They don’t belong in the same conversation. Kraft should stay out of this completely and let Wolf and his staff deal with the issue.

I don't believe RK will get involved? ... as you said Vince was on a totally different level and goddy isn't.. he's a nice player and plays the run well.. but not an every down player..

 

[mgteich]

12 million a year s close to his actual value. I could see them giving him a bump, but no one is going to pay him 20 million a season.

The issue is whether the team and Godchaux are willing to wait until the offseason and see how much he's worth on the market.

 

[Wozzy]

12 million a year s close to his actual value. I could see them giving him a bump, but no one is going to pay him 20 million a season.

He was averaging closer to 10 million per season, I could see them matching and extending that.

Nobody including Godchaux expects 20 million, not sure where that number came from, but it ain't happening.

 

[DaBruinz]

Agreed. Chung became a dam good player his 2nd time around. Jules was one of the best playoff performers in team history. Volmer was an absolute beast..

What's interesting is that Butler became an above average player with the Colts. Ohrnberger ended up a JAG playing for the Cards and Chargers.

McKenzie tore his ACL in mini-camp and never amounted to anything

Ingram was a one year wonder as a longsnapper.
Pryor was a JAG.