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[KCSVEN]

New report on Penix looking like season ending knee injury. His history with injuries in college was a red flag and now he can't finish year 1 as starter.

 

[TheRainMaker]

That is the slowest pick-6 I've seen from a DB in decades.

I clocked 10 seconds it took him to start running from the Steelers 27 yard line to the Browns end zone. Browns players looked like they gave up.

 

[TommyD4207]

I clocked 10 seconds it took him to start running from the Steelers 27 yard line to the Browns end zone. Browns players looked like they gave up.

Also looked like he was playing middle linebacker on that play (and didn't get deep enough, but Flacco threw it right to him).

 

[Grogan14]

What a horrific trade.

Flacco threw it right to him

 

[TheRainMaker]

I know that but the Bills are not in any Position to be picky: they were the SB Favorites for the AFC. They have a window which is closing slowly.

Disagree.
It's already closed.

If the Pats had a 10 year drought with the players they had from 2005-2014, how in the world would the Bills be able to win anything? Granted, the league was way better back then, but the Bills roster is absolute crap and I'm shocked there isn't outrage with the fanbase. Brandon Beane has been awful at drafting since 2018 and Steve Smith posted a video on his channel talking about Keon Coleman as "ain't the guy". Bills worst nightmare was Maye amounting to anything while the Pats have a **** load of cap space. Get ready for a spending spree in 2026.

 

[PatsFan2]

If the Pats had a 10 year drought with the players they had from 2005-2014, how in the world would the Bills be able to win anything? Granted, the league was way better back then, but the Bills roster is absolute crap and I'm shocked there isn't outrage with the fanbase. Brandon Beane has been awful at drafting since 2018 and Steve Smith posted a video on his channel talking about Keon Coleman as "ain't the guy". Bills worst nightmare was Maye amounting to anything while the Pats have a **** load of cap space. Get ready for a spending spree in 2026.

Bills Fans are in complete denial....they think they have have another five year window.

 

[The Gr8est]

Didn’t Penix have concerning knee issues in college?

 

[PatsFan2]

Didn’t Penix have concerning knee issues on college?

I think he blew out both knees in College. He had red flags age and injuries.

 

[The Gr8est]

Didn’t Penix have concerning knee issues in college?

Right now I think I’d rank Maye 1st and Williams 2nd from the 2024 draft.

I really don’t think Daniels is built to take the beating and is a bit older.

I don’t like Williams’ makeup but he has a solid compact build and has been playing well lately.

 

[Vindicate]

If the Pats had a 10 year drought with the players they had from 2005-2014, how in the world would the Bills be able to win anything? Granted, the league was way better back then, but the Bills roster is absolute crap and I'm shocked there isn't outrage with the fanbase. Brandon Beane has been awful at drafting since 2018 and Steve Smith posted a video on his channel talking about Keon Coleman as "ain't the guy". Bills worst nightmare was Maye amounting to anything while the Pats have a **** load of cap space. Get ready for a spending spree in 2026.

What team has drafted well after years of sustained top-5 finishes? Asking genuinely, I'm struggling to think of any. Chiefs haven't drafted **** in a long time. Bills haven't. Seahawks could not upkeep their defense or find an RB after Lynch. Denver sputtered, the Patriots could only hit on defensive players. Steelers were hot with receivers for a moment there, but also invested a lot of capital on that side.

Again, asking genuinely and not rhetorically.

 

[TommyD4207]

What team has drafted well after years of sustained top-5 finishes? Asking genuinely, I'm struggling to think of any. Chiefs haven't drafted **** in a long time. Bills haven't. Seahawks could not upkeep their defense or find an RB after Lynch. Denver sputtered, the Patriots could only hit on defensive players. Steelers were hot with receivers for a moment there, but also invested a lot of capital on that side.

Again, asking genuinely and not rhetorically.

Philadelphia.

 

[Vindicate]

Philadelphia.

I took a glance and uh yeah. Wow lmao.

Howie has been insane, the last 4 years for them has produced 8 starters, and one of the non-starter picks was Williams lmao.

Even before that.. fresh off the 2017 SB win, they scoop Goedert, Sweat, Maddox, Mailata.

Wtf is Howie on?

 

[TheRainMaker]

What team has drafted well after years of sustained top-5 finishes? Asking genuinely, I'm struggling to think of any. Chiefs haven't drafted **** in a long time. Bills haven't. Seahawks could not upkeep their defense or find an RB after Lynch. Denver sputtered, the Patriots could only hit on defensive players. Steelers were hot with receivers for a moment there, but also invested a lot of capital on that side.

Again, asking genuinely and not rhetorically.

The difference is that the Pats drafted well from 2000-2004 and had built one of the best D-lines in the NFL. Also landed Colvin, Ted Washington, Keith Traylor, Rodney Harrison and others I'm forgetting during their first run. They also made moves fairly quickly after poor drafts like trading for Moss, Welker and signing Stallworth in FA. The Bills had one draft landing Allen and then it took years to land Cook. The majority of their drafts have been unacceptable and FA's were awful. Stefon Diggs was their best move. Von Miller was another move in terms of trying to make something happen, but Miller has been dogging it since he left Denver. I'd be pissed if I were a Bills fan they are wasting Josh Allen like this.

But to answer your question: As @TommyD4207 already answered, the Eagles. Plus they make moves in trades, FA. The 49ers, Rams and Tampa Bay have also drafted well enough. Each year that passes, it's getting even more difficult to land impact players as the players coming out aren't as good as they used to be.

 

[Water Boy]

Philadelphia.

And Detroit

 

[p8ryts]

What a horrific trade.

Good for him. I wish him well.

 

[Borg140]

Bills Fans are in complete denial....they think they have have another five year window.

They are about as close to a one-man team as I’ve seen since the Elway teams in the 80s. They need a solid draft next year for both sides of the ball. Firing McDermott wouldn’t be a bad idea either.

 

[dliverey44]

I feel like I owe Caleb Williams an apology. While he is not destroying the NFL he has dragged the Bears to a 7-3 record and has 16 tot TDs with 4 INTs. He is actually playing better than I thought he would. I was pretty low on him.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

New report on Penix looking like season ending knee injury. His history with injuries in college was a red flag and now he can't finish year 1 as starter.

Sounds like ACL damage that might require a knee reconstruction. If it’s as bad as that, he might not be available until well into the 2026 season.

Report: Michael Penix Jr. will be placed on IR, has damage to ACL

While it’s currently unclear whether or not Michael Penix Jr. will miss the rest of the 2025 season, he is at least going to be sidelined for four weeks.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[The Gr8est]

Here is

I feel like I owe Caleb Williams an apology. While he is not destroying the NFL he has dragged the Bears to a 7-3 record and has 16 tot TDs with 4 INTs. He is actually playing better than I thought he would. I was pretty low on him.

Here is a thought question.

Of all the teams who drafted a QB in the 1st round in 2024, which would consider QB if they had the top or very high pick in 2026?

 

[Hammer of Thor]

Here is

Here is a thought question.

Of all the teams who drafted a QB in the 1st round in 2024, which would consider QB if they had the top or very high pick in 2026?

Minnesota with McCarthy might consider it.

If Atlanta’s afraid about Penix’ long term prognosis, they probably consider it too.

That’s it. Patriots, Denver, and Washington are very happy with their choices. And Caleb has shown enough that I don’t think Chicago would be able to justify to themselves moving on from him, especially since that might cost Poles his job.