ESPN predicts Pats are 3 years away from SB contention

[festy1986]

Might as well be 10 million seasons. Give me a eta when you give me the qb of the damn team.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

They are wrong! We almost made it this year if it weren’t for the too many losses

 

[sb1]

Might as well be 10 million seasons. Give me a eta when you give me the qb of the damn team.

Well Pick Six Stidham is the only QB on the roster so if we're going by that then obviously ETA is never.

I expect someone much better than that to be on the roster.

 

[Grogan14]

There are some teams that have taken a lot longer than 3 years. See Bengals, Bills, Lions.

3 years is actually almost a best case.
If you do not get QB right it could be longer. There is nothing written in stone that Pats will bounce back within 3 years.

 

[Joker]

There are some teams that have taken a lot longer than 3 years. See Bengals, Bills, Lions.

3 years is actually almost a best case.
If you do not get QB right it could be longer. There is nothing written in stone that Pats will bounce back within 3 years.

yeah...some teams take a lot longer...then there are the Jets

 

[Pat the Pats Fan]

But but but, rodgah says the league is set up for parity(or maybe parody, never really sure), so every team is competing for the super bowl every year...

 

[NE_Zealot]

Fortunes change quickly in the NFL. Chiefs are a perfect example, Mahomes lands there and makes them relevant after 50 years of crap and changes the narrative of Andy Reid over night.

 

[Steve102]

ESPN can eff off.

 

[TheRainMaker]

The clock doesn't even start until they find a QB. And he may need a couple years until he's ready to help them contend. Aside from that, WR, TE and Front 7 are among the worst in the league. The Pats have come back down to earth with the rest of the league.

 

[mgteich]

Almost all teams are within 3 years of SB contention. The keys are QB, HC and ownership. When the patriots sign a QB within a week of the start of the season, we will be within 3 years.

 

[Hyped]

F that....I expect us to play in Superbowl LVI!!!

 

[sb1]

There are some teams that have taken a lot longer than 3 years. See Bengals, Bills, Lions.

3 years is actually almost a best case.
If you do not get QB right it could be longer. There is nothing written in stone that Pats will bounce back within 3 years.

I believe the team will move on from BB if the rebuild is a failure so in that case it certainly will be longer. In the meantime no reason why we can't rebuild in that time frame with a favorable cap situation and a decent draft slot.

 

[sb1]

The clock doesn't even start until they find a QB. And he may need a couple years until he's ready to help them contend. Aside from that, WR, TE and Front 7 are among the worst in the league. The Pats have come back down to earth with the rest of the league.

Bill is already on the clock. It started when he chose to move on without Brady. He's got 3 years I think and I really doubt he'll get more than that.

Even an all time great coach like Bill has a best before date. He rolled the dice and now it's time to build the new Pats. Want to see progression.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Bill is already on the clock. It started when he chose to move on without Brady. He's got 3 years I think and I really doubt he'll get more than that.

Even an all time great coach like Bill has a best before date. He rolled the dice and now it's time to build the new Pats. Want to see progression.

I agree with that. My response is that a team can't realistically contend without at least a competent QB which is a "coach killer". I see the only way the Kraft's move on from Bill is if he keeps putting out 7-9/8-8 seasons or worse and can't make the playoffs with a now added team.

If Bill can't at least fix either the QB, WR, TE or front 7 with the upcoming FA and draft, he may have a serious problem.

 

[FCB02062]

Not going to click on ESPN, but 3 years is the absolute maximum. We've seen many teams survive the loss of a franchise quarterback and get back to the playoffs and contention the following season or within 1 year. I know I'm touching nerves when I mention that Dave Wannstedt and Wade Phillips both turned the trick beautifully after losing Dan Marino and Jim Kelly respectively, while Bill the Coach went from 12-4 with Brady to 7-9 with Cam Newton. Fanboys on here don't want to acknowledge Bill the Coach's abject failure last season. he put the team together, that the players opted out is on him and no one else. Bill the Coach's team led the nfl in opt outs - why? Spare me the "BUT THEY ALREADY WON TITLES!".
Do folks understand that Coach Bill and Bill the GM had the worst "negative" turnaround out of every team in the AFC after Houston? Coach Bill's team won 5 fewer games in 2020 than in 2019, a dubious feat matched only by conference powerhouses the New York Jets and Jacksonville Jaguars. We are headed for some very lean years and things will get worse before they get better. There is no excuse for this. Krafty Bob has the supposed best coach in the league and many on here say Krafty also has the best GM in the league. There's no reason, if this is true, that the club should not be back in the playoffs NEXT year. Again, Wade Phillips and Dave Wannstedt did it; so should the supposed all time greatest coach in NFL history.

 

[Sicilian]

Not going to click on ESPN, but 3 years is the absolute maximum. We've seen many teams survive the loss of a franchise quarterback and get back to the playoffs and contention the following season or within 1 year. I know I'm touching nerves when I mention that Dave Wannstedt and Wade Phillips both turned the trick beautifully after losing Dan Marino and Jim Kelly respectively, while Bill the Coach went from 12-4 with Brady to 7-9 with Cam Newton. Fanboys on here don't want to acknowledge Bill the Coach's abject failure last season. he put the team together, that the players opted out is on him and no one else. Bill the Coach's team led the nfl in opt outs - why? Spare me the "BUT THEY ALREADY WON TITLES!".
Do folks understand that Coach Bill and Bill the GM had the worst "negative" turnaround out of every team in the AFC after Houston? Coach Bill's team won 5 fewer games in 2020 than in 2019, a dubious feat matched only by conference powerhouses the New York Jets and Jacksonville Jaguars. We are headed for some very lean years and things will get worse before they get better. There is no excuse for this. Krafty Bob has the supposed best coach in the league and many on here say Krafty also has the best GM in the league. There's no reason, if this is true, that the club should not be back in the playoffs NEXT year. Again, Wade Phillips and Dave Wannstedt did it; so should the supposed all time greatest coach in NFL history.

The two guys you just referenced won a grand total of 1 playoff game combined with the two teams you're describing. I wouldn't use them as some measure of success.

As for the rest of your post, you're really going to blame Belichick for Hightower not wanting to risk Covid with a newborn baby? Or Marcus Cannon maybe having a compromised immune system related to being a cancer survivor? These things are now Belichick's fault? I don't think I could disagree with your assessment more than I do.

 

[Grogan14]

Not going to click on ESPN, but 3 years is the absolute maximum. We've seen many teams survive the loss of a franchise quarterback and get back to the playoffs and contention the following season or within 1 year. I know I'm touching nerves when I mention that Dave Wannstedt and Wade Phillips both turned the trick beautifully after losing Dan Marino and Jim Kelly respectively, while Bill the Coach went from 12-4 with Brady to 7-9 with Cam Newton. Fanboys on here don't want to acknowledge Bill the Coach's abject failure last season. he put the team together, that the players opted out is on him and no one else. Bill the Coach's team led the nfl in opt outs - why? Spare me the "BUT THEY ALREADY WON TITLES!".
Do folks understand that Coach Bill and Bill the GM had the worst "negative" turnaround out of every team in the AFC after Houston? Coach Bill's team won 5 fewer games in 2020 than in 2019, a dubious feat matched only by conference powerhouses the New York Jets and Jacksonville Jaguars. We are headed for some very lean years and things will get worse before they get better. There is no excuse for this. Krafty Bob has the supposed best coach in the league and many on here say Krafty also has the best GM in the league. There's no reason, if this is true, that the club should not be back in the playoffs NEXT year. Again, Wade Phillips and Dave Wannstedt did it; so should the supposed all time greatest coach in NFL history.

I think it is fair to say that since BB decided to move on from the GOAT he is on the clock now. The decision to move on from Brady could go down as one of the worst moves in football history if Brady winds up playing another 5 years and is in contention for SB every year. As I have mentioned before, one underrated aspect of moving on from TB12 is that suddenly the Pats are not a preferred destination for UFA.
I certainly am NOT confident that Pats will find an above average QB in next 3 years. That is not necessarily a given.

 

[yukon cornelius]

Bil is here until he no longer wants to be here.......

 

[TheRainMaker]

As for the rest of your post, you're really going to blame Belichick for Hightower not wanting to risk Covid with a newborn baby? Or Marcus Cannon maybe having a compromised immune system related to being a cancer survivor? These things are now Belichick's fault? I don't think I could disagree with your assessment more than I do.

They weren't the difference from the Pats being in the playoffs.

 

[Sicilian]

They weren't the difference from the Pats being in the playoffs.

That wasn't the point I was refuting. He blamed Belichick as the reason those players opted out, as though Hightower would have been fine with exposing his newborn if he was playing for a nicer coach, or Marcus Cannon would have risked his health if the Patriots had just built a better a roster. I find that notion to be absurd.