Patriots Rumor ESPN hitpiece on Patriots (Rift with Brady/Belichick/Kraft) - Merged

[PF_SU]

Some of this is sportstalk influenced, with Felger spouting how the "cap is crap" all of the time, he denies the reality of the situation.. which only serves to feed the trolls..

Volin is also another troll that ignores the situation. I saw it on the twitter feed here that he went on a rant saying the Patriots traded Garoppolo out of loyalty to Brady and they should admit so. That it would have been possible to keep Garoppolo. They can just cut guys like Dwyane Allen, Brandin Cooks and so on.

 

[nowayback]

Amendola about Patriot player of the week, 1st said yes, than said I think its like employee of the week like at hotels and such

 

[Kontradiction]

Figured it works here, too...



Perhaps this thread can be closed?

 

[PF_SU]

Seth Wickersham on K&C: I talked to multiple Patriots players for ESPN story

He is full of hot air. The NFL publicly denies that Goodell and Belichick met last week. And he goes out there and claims that it was indeed last week. Not last year, last week.

 

[luuked]

Cool story, has nothing to do with my point.

There is no point to your story. You are fan of a dysfunctional clown show whereas this is a team that has clear structure and planning. The fact that there was no meltdown but just pragmatism about moving on from JG tells the entire story even if ESPN and the rest of the garbage franchises dont want to believe it.

 

[Deus Irae]

Figured it works here, too...



Perhaps this thread can be closed?

Either Bill's lying about not having read it (or being shady because he's read less than 100% of it), or the statement that was released, with his name attached to it, was fraudulent.

And I think we can both agree that Bill's almost certainly lying/being shady about not having read it.


Edit: And, former fan, you can click the disagree button all you want, but the BB contradiction (see what I did there?) is inescapable.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Nobody believed it when it happened, but Ralph Wilson threw out Bill Polian and in all of Buffalo's history of stupid moves, that one is number 1 on the list. The problem with these "reports" is there some truth, some exaggeration, and some nonsense all together. Granted, New England has endured such a long run of excellence the probability of implosion gets greater with every year, so does the probability of excellence dimensioning (statistically). As an outsider trying to be objective and experience the bickering bills, the Owner/GM/QB success feuds (yes those happened when the bills were good for that stretch), all I can say is that taking a position of absolute is a poor one. This happens in everything that has power and success. Hopefully what happens is, they all take their SB win this year or next or whenever that moment before it's obvious you waited too long, and hang it up for their own sake and go out on a high note. It's just a poor showing to keep stringing this out until that one season where brady gets really hurt, egos end up getting the best of each other, whatever, do not ask for the Bill Polian situation. Take your winnings, and go home, which is the hardest thing for people like them to do.

You could have simply said


Please stop winning and go away.

 

[jri37]

Amendola about Patriot player of the week, 1st said yes, than said I think its like employee of the week like at hotels and such

Yeah, i believe he said the people shoveling snow could win it. Maybe that was tongue in cheek but it seems it isn't exclusive to players but anyone that works for the Patriots.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Nobody believed it when it happened, but Ralph Wilson threw out Bill Polian and in all of Buffalo's history of stupid moves, that one is number 1 on the list. The problem with these "reports" is there some truth, some exaggeration, and some nonsense all together. Granted, New England has endured such a long run of excellence the probability of implosion gets greater with every year, so does the probability of excellence dimensioning (statistically). As an outsider trying to be objective and experience the bickering bills, the Owner/GM/QB success feuds (yes those happened when the bills were good for that stretch), all I can say is that taking a position of absolute is a poor one. This happens in everything that has power and success. Hopefully what happens is, they all take their SB win this year or next or whenever that moment before it's obvious you waited too long, and hang it up for their own sake and go out on a high note. It's just a poor showing to keep stringing this out until that one season where brady gets really hurt, egos end up getting the best of each other, whatever, do not ask for the Bill Polian situation. Take your winnings, and go home, which is the hardest thing for people like them to do.

It really is “ a poor showing” for the Patriots to keep hogging Lombardi’s.”

I’ll speak to them about that, maybe Bill and Tom will hang them up for the sake of Buffalo fans.

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

Either Bill's lying about not having read it (or being shady because he's read less than 100% of it), or the statement that was released, with his name attached to it, was fraudulent.

And I think we can both agree that Bill's almost certainly lying/being shady about not having read it.


Edit: And, former fan, you can click the disagree button all you want, but the BB contradiction (see what I did there?) is inescapable.

Where did BB say he read the story in the statement?

 

[jri37]

If he did read it he's probably embarrassed to admit he wasted his time reading that steaming pile of sh*t. I know I am.

 

[Billsfanonapatsforum]

There is no point to your story. You are fan of a dysfunctional clown show whereas this is a team that has clear structure and planning. The fact that there was no meltdown but just pragmatism about moving on from JG tells the entire story even if ESPN and the rest of the garbage franchises dont want to believe it.

A lot was said about the Ralph Wilson/Bill Polian situation and the bickering bills as well. Your opinion on the Buffalo organization during the tenure I'm speaking to is just idiotic at best. Bills fans weren't any different, taking positions that all of it is true or all of it is false with some somewhere in the middle. There is likely some truth to the story , some exaggeration, and some nonsense. Reasonable people can read it and make that deduction. the ramifications and severity of it? who really knows but ultimately I'd hate to see such a dynasty have a sour ending so hopefully it's mostly false. Just because I'm a bills fan doesn't mean I deserve to be treated like some lesser fan of the game or that I don't appreciate whats been done and that I've not seen this before with my team when it was successful.

 

[Deus Irae]

Where did BB say he read the story in the statement?

In recent days, there have been multiple media reports that have speculated theories that are unsubstantiated, highly exaggerated or flat out inaccurate.

How would he be able to call the theories "unsubstantiated, highly exaggerated or flat out inaccurate" if he hadn't read them? Simple word of mouth would not be enough to be sure, obviously.

Are you really going to try pretending that you believe BB doesn't get the info on things like this? Don't be that guy.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Nobody believed it when it happened, but Ralph Wilson threw out Bill Polian and in all of Buffalo's history of stupid moves, that one is number 1 on the list. The problem with these "reports" is there some truth, some exaggeration, and some nonsense all together. Granted, New England has endured such a long run of excellence the probability of implosion gets greater with every year, so does the probability of excellence dimensioning (statistically). As an outsider trying to be objective and experience the bickering bills, the Owner/GM/QB success feuds (yes those happened when the bills were good for that stretch), all I can say is that taking a position of absolute is a poor one. This happens in everything that has power and success. Hopefully what happens is, they all take their SB win this year or next or whenever that moment before it's obvious you waited too long, and hang it up for their own sake and go out on a high note. It's just a poor showing to keep stringing this out until that one season where brady gets really hurt, egos end up getting the best of each other, whatever, do not ask for the Bill Polian situation. Take your winnings, and go home, which is the hardest thing for people like them to do.

Congratulations Billsfan

Great showing this weekend.


Did you know that this will be Bill and Tom’s 7th straight AFCCG if they win Saturday night?

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Off topic, but since you used them as a source, do you ever gain anything of use from those sites, or do you find that additional forums/opinions etc just tend to muddy the waters? Just curious. I never believed in using one of those “services” to select games or give you plays, and I only lightly dabbled in casually browsing some of the forums. I didn’t find them too helpful myself, but figured that I’d bring it up since you linked their tweet as a source.

Oh I'd never pay for a tout. 100% useless imho. I do pretty well on my own. Covers, RX, Touts etc have never giving me anything I can't find and tbh I think im better than most (not trying to come off as anything but being honest)

That was the first clip that showed up when I type in Rick C etc

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

How would he be able to call the theories "unsubstantiated, highly exaggerated or flat out inaccurate" if he hadn't read them? Simple word of mouth would not be enough to be sure, obviously.

Are you really going to try pretending that you believe BB doesn't get the info on things like this? Don't be that guy.

Didn't get info does not equal didn't read the story.

Are you claiming that if he didn't read the story there's no way he could know what it was about?

 

[Billsfanonapatsforum]

Did you know that this will be Bill and Tom’s 7th straight AFCCG if they win Saturday night?

No, I'm just googling to find comparative situations and pretending to know about them.

 

[Soliel]

He holds ESPN in contempt, that’s what he won’t even grace the report with answers which would give it more credibility.

 

[Huckleberry1]

No, I'm just googling to find comparative situations and pretending to know about them.

That sounds about right.

Try googling Yankees, Celtics, and Canadians, it should give you the comparative situations you are looking for,

 

[Billsfanonapatsforum]

anyways..... who makes up all of the source content. There's certainly a lot of inference and speculation in that piece and you'd have to be a real TMZ goon to make such bold correlative inferences if like 95% of that is fabricated. What a gross waste of time if the later is true.... that's like "click bait" garbage.