Patriots Rumor ESPN hitpiece on Patriots (Rift with Brady/Belichick/Kraft) - Merged

[IcyPatriot]

There is stupid and there is hyper-stupidity:

Eight teams that might fit Tom Brady if he left the New England Patriots

 

[SVN]

its quite funny that people are suggesting belichick floated this story via wickersham because he is the only one who comes out looking good in this.

 

[Dingleberry]

An unnamed friend of Bill says BB would love to be coach of Giants. This turns into a headline that BB is eyeing Giants job.

"Big if true", is the response. Big if true? Clickbait, unsourced horseshyt should not inspire the response, "Big if true."

I suppose some people walk by the supermarket tabloids with the same ignorance. Whoa! Elvis is alive and fathered Bigfoot's love child? Holy phuck! That's big if true!

 

[RobertWeathers]

Dynamite drop in Monty. You know that broadcast school has really paid off.

LOL

"Hes not best color man in the league for nuthin' folks...."

 

[bormio]

Brady's starting to remind me of Tom Cruise and his scientology beliefs. If you don't believe in their alternative beliefs or question it, they go off on you or cut you out.

Here’s your sign....

This thread is serving a useful purpose - idiots declaring themselves.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Patriots covering New England’s homeless with game blankets

 

[PatriotSpy]

Based of the stuff you made up in your head about Brady?

I meant that in jest. Still a Tom Cruise fan.

 

[PrairiePat]

He did say that Jimmy could run the offense that Tom could and there would hardly be a noticeable difference. He's praised him in public and it's obvious he liked Jimmy. I think BB was setting things up for Jimmy to take over next season. I've watched Jimmys niner games and it's clear he has elevated that team. Lightning quick release, good footwork, mobile, elusive, accurate, pin point throws that are on time. His YPA was significantly higher than hoyer and beathard. His completion percentage is significantly higher. All this while learning the playbook on the fly and playing with a bunch of bums on offense. Look at Peyton when he had to learn Kubiak's offense. Turned into a bum. For Jimmy to do what he did in the middle of the year like this. He was a keeper.

I don't get why people keep harping on this like it's not an obvious fact. Yes, BB wanted to keep JG, but there was no way he was trading Brady coming off his greatest Superbowl victory. So he held onto Jimmy through the preseason, delaying a decision as long as he could - had Brady's play slipped this year, it's possible he would have moved TB instead. Possible, but still unlikely. Brady's play didn't slip; he has played at an MVP level this season. How can you trade away the face of your franchise in the midst of an MVP season?

Anyhow, one of them had to go; they would be too expensive to keep as a pair. The trade deadline was the last chance to get anything in return other than a compensatory pick. So JG was shipped out. Reluctantly, as BB himself said.

I don't see the great mystery in all of that, or why BB wouldn't have reached this exact conclusion with or without urging from Kraft. They ended up with the somewhat happy problem of having two stud QBs, and made the best of that circumstance. All this Wickersham nonsense is just uninformed people not understanding how the sequence of events worked out, and creating a narrative based on their fervent hope that it represented a great crisis within the organization. Wishful thinking on their part.

 

[Jackson 2]

I think people forget that Willie Mac was the one that introduced Brady to Alex G. For those old enough to remember Willie had some groin problems early in his career and credits Alex with helping him get back on track. Not privy to his client list, but that is two decades of success in helping Patriots stay on the field. If you listen to Curran on quick slants, Curran indicates that BB himself respects Alex's work. That is part of why he has a place adjacent to the stadium and treats so many Patriots. But when Alex starts questioning the Pats training methods, it is time to remind him of his place. JMHO, but I think Alex does good work, but has a tendency to overstep his bounds.

Excellent take.

 

[upstater1]

In 2 years I'd be willing to let Belichick go to the Giants in return for 2 first rounders and 2 second rounders.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Bold prediction: this 40 year old quarterback, 65 year old coach, and 76 year old owner have very few years left working together.

Shocking!

ESPN will declare themselves to have been correct, even if it takes 4 years!

 

[RobertWeathers]

I was a fan since Parcells/Bledsoe came aboard so I didn't experience the truly crappy era you guys did. Hopefuly under the Krafts, it'll be a long time before we see that again.I just think going from Bledsoe,Brady, Jimmy and having 35 years of good qb play would have been pretty cool. I will say i'm slowly moving on but that article on espn drew me back in.

I hear you. In a perfect world TB12 wins a SB (or 2 more), retires with Gisele by his side and Jimmy carries the torch for 3-4 more SBs.

I swear that is where some of this is coming from. People aren't seeing a clear path to the status -quo of winning 12-14 games a year and a SB appearance and it scares them.

Sometimes life isn't that nice and neat and perfect.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Bold prediction: this 40 year old quarterback, 65 year old coach, and 76 year old owner have very few years left working together.

Shocking!

You are really putting yourself out there.....

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

Frenemies

Regards,
Chris

 

[PittPatriot]

I like Holley very much. He seems like the best of the bunch. Fair but not a total kiss ass.

...and he has spent a lot of time on the “inside” with the Pats/BB. He must have intel that we aren’t privy to.
I don’t understand how we have insiders like Zo, Curran, and Holley and we have this outside hack Wicker-sham as the whistle blower.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Brady wanted Jimmy to go to his childhood team the 49'ers so they could dominate after Brady retires.

If I write an article to prove that point does that mean I could work for ESPN?

 

[PatriotSpy]

I don't get why people keep harping on this like it's not an obvious fact. Yes, BB wanted to keep JG, but there was no way he was trading Brady coming off his greatest Superbowl victory. So he held onto Jimmy through the preseason, delaying a decision as long as he could - had Brady's play slipped this year, it's possible he would have moved TB instead. Possible, but still unlikely. Brady's play didn't slip; he has played at an MVP level this season. How can you trade away the face of your franchise in the midst of an MVP season?

Anyhow, one of them had to go; they would be too expensive to keep as a pair. The trade deadline was the last chance to get anything in return other than a compensatory pick. So JG was shipped out. Reluctantly, as BB himself said.

I don't see the great mystery in all of that, or why BB wouldn't have reached this exact conclusion with or without urging from Kraft. They ended up with the somewhat happy problem of having two stud QBs, and made the best of that circumstance. All this Wickersham nonsense is just uninformed people not understanding how the sequence of events worked out, and creating a narrative based on their fervent hope that it represented a great crisis within the organization. Wishful thinking on their part.

Like I said before nobody outside the Patriots organization knows the story or how it went down. It's just conjecture on both sides. You could say all that but you can also say BB is cut throat, all business, ruthless and will do what he feels is best for the team and will ditch Brady before he's officially toast as a legit qb. Maybe we'll know the story some day in an all tell bio from belichick (doubt it). This has been good chatter but right now I just want to tie the steelers for super bowl wins.

 

[Vatahala]

Any posters doing double duty at CBS Sportsline where the Will Brinson story about the ESPN story has 1384 comments so far.

 

[PittPatriot]

Jimmy wanted to be his own man. Well jimmy let's see you be the man in San Francisco and lead them to a couple of championships.

He doesn’t need to win championships. He can just be a top 10-12 QB make his money and flirt with the playoffs and it would be a successful career.
If Jimmy is going to win “a couple championships” in SF, we’ve already made the wrong decision on which QB to keep.

 

[FoxboroFlyer]

The intestinal fortitude of the younger fans has not been tested. They have no idea what 1-15, blackouts and almost relocating feels like. Its sheer hopelessness.

Agree. BB is not perfect. You can legitimately argue his draft record is mixed (like most teams). Success of his FA acquisitions also mixed. His in-game decisions also questionable (hard to find but they are there) but for god's sake hes #3 all time in career wins and #1 in SB championships.

Until there is a ~2 year drought and a trend of really bad decisions, you gotta give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

Ah j**** c***** don't bring up the drafts! Lol! I have grown to dread draft day, well at least day two when BB makes his inevitable ??? Pick. Lol! I admit it, and I'm not proud of it, but those are my most regretful posts in this forum, even though I was correct at the time. You take the leagues bests "short comings" at that stage. If that's their biggest short comings the future is bright