Eliot Wolf Press Conference

[upstater1]

Very interesting note, Wolf did emphasize how the majority of franchise QB's in today's league were first round picks.

The numbers don't lie. We went over the stat that only 7 of 221 QBs selected after the 1st rd in the last 25 years have panned out.

 

[203Pat]

The numbers don't lie. We went over the stat that only 7 of 221 QBs selected after the 1st rd in the last 25 years have panned out.

Did I miss something here?

 

[PatsFan2]

Considering it's a underwhelming FA class all around I would tag Onwenu knowing I'm bringing in a Young QB.

 

[Clonamery]

That pin on his chest was shiny and distracting.

 

[Love The Drake]

That pin on his chest was shiny and distracting.

lol I didn’t even notice it watching again.

 

[PatsFan2]

The numbers don't lie. We went over the stat that only 7 of 221 QBs selected after the 1st rd in the last 25 years have panned out.

I am not against Double Dipping at QB with either Penix Jr and Rattler after a QB @ 3 just to make sure.

 

[upstater1]

I am not against Double Dipping at QB with either Penix Jr and Rattler after a QB @ 3 just to make sure.

Like I said, 3% chance that pick helps you, and if 1st rounders are a 50/50 proposition, that means you cut the need for a latter rounder in half. So there's actually a 1.5% chance that a later QB pick will help you as anything other than a backup.

 

[Ross12]

I think that Wolf's comments pretty much seal Mac's fate, but Zappe may still fit on the team. He is tough and showed good leadership, and physically he is a better fit for the new scheme. I don't think he's the long-term answer, but he may be allowed to compete with a veteran addition for the starting job while a drafted rookie like JJ McCarthy sits in year 1 (if we are following the Packers model like Wolf says, where a mid-1st QB is allowed to sit and develop).

 

[PatsFan2]

Like I said, 3% chance that pick helps you, and if 1st rounders are a 50/50 proposition, that means you cut the need for a latter rounder in half. So there's actually a 1.5% chance that a later QB pick will help you as anything other than a backup.

Lert's hope this is similar to that 83 Draft that produced Elway - Marino and Kelly I am not sure which one the 2024 QB's I like the best.

 

[KCSVEN]

The numbers don't lie. We went over the stat that only 7 of 221 QBs selected after the 1st rd in the last 25 years have panned out.

What?
Stroud, Lawrence, Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Love is 6 guys in the last 3 years, so there was 1 in the last 22? Yet there was Mahomes, Luck, Goff?
Are we just talking Super Bowl wins or QB's that let you compete for a layoff every year? Super Bowl wins would be a very stupid way to judge it if that's what 7 of 221 is coming from?

We have 6 out of 14, a 42% hit rate on franchise QB's the last 3 years with all the advanced analytics.
It's still possible Young, Daniel Jones, and Fields could be franchise QB's.
So a 50% success rate is probably a good # these days.
Now if you back out and only take guys rated near Daniels/Maye and Williams the success rate is much higher.

 

[PatsFan2]

I think that Wolf's comments pretty much seal Mac's fate, but Zappe may still fit on the team. He is tough and showed good leadership, and physically he is a better fit for the new scheme. I don't think he's the long-term answer, but he may be allowed to compete with a veteran addition for the starting job while a drafted rookie like JJ McCarthy sits in year 1 (if we are following the Packers model like Wolf says, where a mid-1st QB is allowed to sit and develop).

Hopefully not @ 3.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

I didn't see it but from the comments I get the feeling they are going to sign a stopgap QB in free agency ( Brissett?)and draft one at #3 and let him sit for a year or so ala the Packers with Rodgers/Love to get adhusted to the NFL rather than throw them into the fire.

 

[PatsFan2]

What?
Stroud, Lawrence, Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Love is 6 guys in the last 3 years, so there was 1 in the last 22? Yet there was Mahomes, Luck, Goff?
Are we just talking Super Bowl wins or QB's that let you compete for a layoff every year? Super Bowl wins would be a very stupid way to judge it if that's what 7 of 221 is coming from?

We have 6 out of 14, a 42% hit rate on franchise QB's the last 3 years with all the advanced analytics.
It's still possible Young, Daniel Jones, and Fields could be franchise QB's.
So a 50% success rate is probably a good # these days.
Now if you back out and only take guys rated near Daniels/Maye and Williams the success rate is much higher.

I get it but you might be pushing it on Daniel Mac Jones.

 

[PatsFan2]

I didn't see it but from the comments I get the feeling they are going to sign a stopgap QB in free agency ( Brissett?)and draft one at #3 and let him sit for a year or so ala the Packers with Rodgers/Love to get adhusted to the NFL rather than throw them into the fire.

J Biscuit sucks we'll be Drafting Top 5 again.

 

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[KCSVEN]

I get it but you might be pushing it on Daniel Mac Jones.

I get it, and left him off originally, but 2022 was good and 2023 were injuries so it's possible, though not likely.

 

[upstater1]

Lert's hope this is similar to that 83 Draft that produced Elway - Marino and Kelly I am not sure which one the 2024 QB's I like the best.

Hmmmmm, maybe not. Remember that O'Brien, Blackledge and Eason were the guys after Elway. Marino went second to last pick.

 

[upstater1]

What?
Stroud, Lawrence, Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Love is 6 guys in the last 3 years, so there was 1 in the last 22? Yet there was Mahomes, Luck, Goff?
Are we just talking Super Bowl wins or QB's that let you compete for a layoff every year? Super Bowl wins would be a very stupid way to judge it if that's what 7 of 221 is coming from?

We have 6 out of 14, a 42% hit rate on franchise QB's the last 3 years with all the advanced analytics.
It's still possible Young, Daniel Jones, and Fields could be franchise QB's.
So a 50% success rate is probably a good # these days.
Now if you back out and only take guys rated near Daniels/Maye and Williams the success rate is much higher.

I wrote AFTER the first round.

 

[Ross12]

I didn't see it but from the comments I get the feeling they are going to sign a stopgap QB in free agency ( Brissett?)and draft one at #3 and let him sit for a year or so ala the Packers with Rodgers/Love to get adhusted to the NFL rather than throw them into the fire.

I got that sense as well but I would not be surprised to see them trade down a bit if they really like a guy like JJ McCarthy and think they can get him a few picks later and still pick up an extra 2nd to use on receiver/tackle/TE help.

 

[KCSVEN]

I wrote AFTER the first round.

Ha Ha, well, reading comprehension is apparently not my strong suit LOL.