Do any of these five deserve to get into the Pats Hall of Fame?

[Huckleberry1]

No. Ironically they are all HOFers, but none were here long enough to be Patriot Hall of Famers.

 

[sb1]

No. Ironically they are all HOFers, but none were here long enough to be Patriot Hall of Famers.

Yeah Pats HOF is for the fans. It’s all about who meant a lot to this team and organization not just how great they are. Hard to mean a lot to this team if you’re not here that long.

I can see someone not being here long and being named to our HOF anyway if we were a team that never won a Super Bowl until he got here and that guy was really the reason we won. That’s team HOF worthy I think

 

[FCB02062]

No on all with the possible exception of Parcells. The man made a laughingstock franchise into a contender. I've never seen a football team make the drastic improvement that the 93 Parcells Patriots made from game 1 to game 16. It was the work of a coaching and motivating genius....and I was there sitting on those cold aluminum benches in 223 for every game.

 

[p8ryts]

No on all with the possible exception of Parcells. The man made a laughingstock franchise into a contender. I've never seen a football team make the drastic improvement that the 93 Parcells Patriots made from game 1 to game 16. It was the work of a coaching and motivating genius....and I was there sitting on those cold aluminum benches in 223 for every game.

I just can't forgive him for the last season. Transitioning to Jets during SB. Sorry.

 

[sb1]

I’ll always believe if Belichick was head coach already they beat the Packers in that SB. Partly because BB would make sure his team never gives Desmond Howard a chance to touch the football.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Parcells and Randy stick out bc of what they did while here. Not here for long but Randy had like 50 TD in 3 years, huge reason for 16-0 and was one of the very few players who actually made Brady a better QB. Obviously Parcells made a big impact in a short time.

We legitimately should put Revis in to F with jete fans.

 

[TommyD4207]

Moss. Anyone who picked Parcells is either in the media, or bought into his ******** while he was here.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

Parcells and Randy stick out bc of what they did while here. Not here for long but Randy had like 50 TD in 3 years, huge reason for 16-0 and was one of the very few players who actually made Brady a better QB. Obviously Parcells made a big impact in a short time.

We legitimately should put Revis in to F with jete fans.

That 3 year span is like a close to great 5 year for some wr’s

 

[sb1]

I’ll always believe if Belichick was head coach already they beat the Packers in that SB. Partly because BB would make sure his team never gives Desmond Howard a chance to touch the football.

OT - I wish Troy Brown played in that game. He makes the TD saving tackle on Howard that Hason Graham who replaced him couldn’t.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Not really, when you consider the logjam that's about to happen.

Tom is in. Not sure if that bumps anyone back, but the whole 1 per year thing is going to shut all the guys you listed out. Vinatieri gets in. Hightower, Slate, McCourty, Gronk all are locks. That fills in the next five years, plus Bill's clock is now ticking, he gets his own wing across from Brady's wing. Welker deserves to be in. Does Dave Andrews get in? Kevin Faulk and James White? Gilmore? I'd put all those guys in before Martin with Jete cooties, Revis the mercenary, Parcells the turncoat and Junior who just wasn't dominant enough to warrant getting in. I think you make a good case for Randy, but I don't want him ahead of the locks I listed. I have to be missing some other linemen as well. Mankins?

And Edelman, who will almost certainly win in a landslide his first year on the ballot.

 

[Steve102]

And Edelman, who will almost certainly win in a landslide his first year on the ballot.

Yeah, I think I caught that in a later post. Good catch on the omission.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I’ll always believe if Belichick was head coach already they beat the Packers in that SB. Partly because BB would make sure his team never gives Desmond Howard a chance to touch the football.

Packers were too good offensively and defensively that year. Also, the Pats were a year late on Favre turning into the playoff choker we came to all know which started the following year against Denver.

 

[BTTA]

What's with the discussion about Martin and Parcells? There should be a simple rule that if you left here to play for the Jets, you lose consideration, regardless of what you accomplished in New England.

 

[1960Pats]

What's with the discussion about Martin and Parcells? There should be a simple rule that if you left here to play for the Jets, you lose consideration, regardless of what you accomplished in New England.

That rule works fine for me.

Tuna Crap's best trait was recognizing which teams were the best to make him look like a savior, in spite of the fact that outside the one SB appearance with the Pats (that he sabotaged) he never won squat after he left the Giants and Bill's defenses. He was great at picking his spots though.

He went to the 2-14 Pats who had the top pick.
He went to the 1-15 Jets (the most talented 1-15 team ever) who also had the top pick
He went to the 5-11 Cowboys.
Any HC could have improved those teams.

I think he also had a stint as a GM somewhere (the Dolphins?) that didn't amount to anything.

 

[signbabybrady]

What's with the discussion about Martin and Parcells? There should be a simple rule that if you left here to play for the Jets, you lose consideration, regardless of what you accomplished in New England.

It's a rule worth some consideration but Ty says hi.

 

[Brotherblues]

None. I do not think of them as Patriots.

I agree for the most part but sometimes I think the impact in a short time matters. Especially with Randy, who on top of breaking league records with the Pats, has also largely been a Pats homer in his post playing days.

He's the only one that makes me really pause in this list.

 

[BTTA]

It's a rule worth some consideration but Ty says hi.

Oof, forgot about that one. Damn.

 

[signbabybrady]

Oof, forgot about that one. Damn.

We should come up with a wing to Celebrate Jets like Cox and Revis who came here to get rings. (Honorable mention to Klecko family).

I don't recall exactly how many others like Otis Smith who might have started here followed BP to NY and came back with Bill. I think there were a few more though.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

We should come up with a wing to Celebrate Jets like Cox and Revis who came here to get rings. (Honorable mention to Klecko family).

I don't recall exactly how many others like Otis Smith who might have started here followed BP to NY and came back with Bill. I think there were a few more though.

 

[Patriot Missile]

Moss gets the exemption code for me. Anytime you can put up 23 TD’s in one season is pretty magical. He absolutely proved to all the doubters left that if Brady was given the same weapons as Manning he was not some system qb. Parcels although a douche at times, especially at the end brought winning culture, drafted 1/2 the defense of the first dynasty, brought Bill Belichick. He should be in there regardless of how butt hurt people are. He put the Patriots on the map. Live your best life and stop sweating the small stuff.