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Defense front 7 ONLY: One player you want, one to stay away from

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During what round would you place them at their proper value, and which OLB/DEs and DE/DTs would you draft ahead of Bequette & Wolfe respectively?

I wont take any ahead of them. Both have great size, great field production, Wolfe had a solid combine for his size, solid in all drills, while Bequette had an excellent, excellent showing in 3-cone and short shuttle, which mean for me far more than the 40 yard dash.

Cox had a poor vert of only 26, which suggests poor lower body strength, and possibly explains why he cant get sacks unless the QB runs into him.
 
I'm with you on Poe. Insane athleticism but he's lacking the fundamentals. Put him with a great DLine coach and he would go far. He falls down and loses sight of the ball a lot because he plays with his head down. That majorly needs to be corrected.

I also don't get the Nick Perry love from Pats fans. When I look at his combine stats he's everything I don't want in an OLB in our system.

What don't you like about his combine stats?
 
For players who could fall to us I'd like to see Cox and Hightower.

Hard to imagine Cox falling beyond the 18 to 20 range. He ran great at the combine and he has some really good tape available for review.

Also in my mind, Hightower solidfied his first round value by running a 4.6. And he also has some fantastic tape available. I could see BB using him outside on first and second downs and inside on passing downs.

Heard Ingram say he wants to play all over the front seven in whatever team drafts him. Sounds like a guy BB could use in just that very role.
 
Hard to imagine Cox falling beyond the 18 to 20 range. He ran great at the combine and he has some really good tape available for review.

Also in my mind, Hightower solidfied his first round value by running a 4.6. And he also has some fantastic tape available. I could see BB using him outside on first and second downs and inside on passing downs.

Heard Ingram say he wants to play all over the front seven in whatever team drafts him. Sounds like a guy BB could use in just that very role.

I think Ingram's going to go top 10. Good tape and wowing at the combine will probably do that - only downer is his short arms. Hightower did well with his 40 but looked pretty ugly in coverage skills but still should be an end of first round pick.
 
Hard to imagine Cox falling beyond the 18 to 20 range. He ran great at the combine and he has some really good tape available for review.

Also in my mind, Hightower solidfied his first round value by running a 4.6. And he also has some fantastic tape available. I could see BB using him outside on first and second downs and inside on passing downs.

Heard Ingram say he wants to play all over the front seven in whatever team drafts him. Sounds like a guy BB could use in just that very role.

Cox is definately moving on up. I said the same thing about Hightower.
 
I'm with you on Poe. Insane athleticism but he's lacking the fundamentals. Put him with a great DLine coach and he would go far. He falls down and loses sight of the ball a lot because he plays with his head down. That majorly needs to be corrected.

I also don't get the Nick Perry love from Pats fans. When I look at his combine stats he's everything I don't want in an OLB in our system.

Adding 20 lbs of pure muscle and not really dropping off on his 40 time at all is going to attract a lot of people.

At around 250 lbs and an OLB convert prospect playing DE at USC he was nowhere near my radar...now at 271 lbs I'm thinking very differently. The big question mark was could he play DE in the NFL..he couldn't...but now? Possibly.

I still wouldn't take him too high, but with good interviews and team workouts he could be a 1st round pick quite easily. He didn't wow me with his hips and I don't think he's going to b a great OLB when it comes to coverage. He wants to play DE and it reflected in his workout program and the pounds he added...he has a chance to prove himself at DE now and, with a little work, could potentially be molded into a guy who can work a little at OLB in a Patriots hybrid scheme.
 
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The Pats have the chance to get two or possibly three of these picks without a trade:
Cox - 4 time SEC DL of the week
Mercilus - is a high-upside player lead the nation in sacks
Branch - versatile athlete and reminds me of Willie McGinest
Worthy - top 15 pick before the injury (may be available with 2nd pick)
Hightower - a great fit with Spikes and Mayo
Brockers - will the poor combine drop him to 27...
Crick - first round value before the pectoral injury (may be available with 2nd pick).
 
I really believe Hightower is over-drafted. He's got size and his speed is deceptively okay at 4.6. But he is as stiff as a board, not effective in coverage and doesn't move through the linesmen with much agility at all.

There's a tough reality that is starting to dawn for me, regarding all the Alabama defensive players. They got a lot of national media attention, and the were a GREAT team defense. Saban at his finest. But taken individually, the key Bama defenders are just not all that great as individual prospects.

Dre was once neck and neck with Claiborne from LSU, but has slipped due to off-field stuff. Upshaw looked terrible at the combine, and is dropping like a rock. Barron, who I really like, is slipping down boards too, mostly because of medical. And Hightower, who I think benefitted most from having all those potential first rounders around him to hide the fact that he doesn't really navigate space all that well. He's not a first round talent in my book, at all.

I want Saban's kids to do well in the NFL, but I have that sinking feeling that they all outplayed their actual talent, and are likely to disappoint as pros.
 
As far as Hightower Rook, I agree, but he still has me interested. He ran a lot faster in his 40 than I expected. I still want to see his 3 cone and his shuttle at his pro day to see if he can anser his critics about being an OLB at the pro level.

To me Barron is the best of a mediocre bunch. I wouldn't mind the Pats drafting him early because he fills a need but I'm not going bananas over the guy. I'm looking more for a guy who can cover a whole lot of field in a hurry.
 
Has Crick weighing in at 279 made you question his ability to play 3-4 end. That's 15 lbs less than most web sites had him at. I don't know if all of that can be attributed to not being able to lift weights due to his pec surgery.
 
He didn't BP at the combine, and he has short arms (32") for the position.
What was Crick's playing weight at the start of the 2011 season? If that was also 276-282,
then he has no future here as a 3-4 DE. If Bill plans on using 4-3 personnel in any significant manner,
then perhaps he could be effective as a running-down DE.
 
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