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Could we be working on a Big Trade Possibly??

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Bill's Girl said:
Come on, the real reason BB and SP have been so quiet is because they are working on thier Jive and Tango skills for the next season of Dancing with the Stars!
Well, atleast they are not doing nothing as many have implied.
 
Only one man has ever had the right to call me son, and you are not even close to his caliber.
I don't know you, and I don't ever need to, I can just tell exactly what kind of person you are by reading your posts, just like alot of the other pats fans who have come to infiltrate this fine forum over the last few yrs. I am not going to point any fingers. If you feel like I am accusing YOU while you read this then you're probably right. ALOT of self rightous let's slam down anybody with a creative thought "cause that aint how the pats do it" schmoes.
You live out your life loving your team but only cause they make YOU feel better about yourself. People like you can often be found sitting around day dreaming about yourself hanging out with BB and Pioli over an Ice cold Sam Adams talking about us poor sad LITTLE fans who should be following the REDSKINS cuz they are exciting. Unlike you, the REAL FAN since day 1.
I don't care what INSIDER books some of you may read on how the pats do it. Hell, we have all read those same books, and just cause some of us think out side of the norm a little bit, there's something wrong with us. we're not "Real pats fans". Alright, I honestly don't care that much and wasn't going to post anymore on the matter. We each have our own views and that's what makes it soooo much fun. However, calling me son really PISSED me off and my first feeling was that if I saw you in person I would kick your a**.
However, after taking a deep breath.....(sigh) I have calmed down. After all, I am sure that is why you said it. To disrespect me and belittle me. It worked and good job pops! :eat3:
 
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It's not that you have creative, unconventional opinions. That is fine.

The problem is, it's clear you don't understand how the Patriots have had success, and you don't understand their philosophy. You can make fun of reading books all you want, but those books were written by people who helped real fans understand how our favorite organization operates. So when you poke fun at that, you sound like one of those fans who has extremely strong, but uninformed, opinions.

Also, I don't think some of the older posters experience appreciate your attitude. I think it's because every now and then a new poster comes along who is abrasive and confrontational. I'm not sure if that's what you intended, but that's how you come across as.

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No mav, that's not it. I wasn't making fun of those books. I own more than a few myself. I am just trying to point out that just because they have a formula, it doesn't mean they aren't ever going to do something different. I am sure BB and Pioli get an itch in there pants every once in awhile too.
Also, I was just trying to point out that just because you have read INSIDER books, doesnt menan you know everything that this team is thinking or doing. Anyone who has every run an organization before knows that even though you have a formula in place for winning doesn't mean you can't change with your surroundings and mold your formula alittle differently to survive. If you don't, then you're too stubborn and you're going to lose.
 
holyredeemer said:
Only one man has ever had the right to call me son, and you are not even close to his caliber.

Anyone have a clue who this cretin is ranting about here?

I don't know you, and I...

Incoherent rant deleted as mercy to fans reading this thread

I don't care what INSIDER books some of you may read on how the pats do it. Hell, we have all read those same books,

It's best if you have some minimal comprehension of what you read.

However, calling me son really PISSED me off and my first feeling was that if I saw you in person I would kick your a**.

What a shock. Yet another Internet tough guy!

:eat3:

This is fun.....
 
No, I am not an internet tough guy. Just someone who can get pissed when someone feels the need to direspect him on a personal level. It has nothing to do with the internet. I'm done with you though. Your just a prick and I am not going to respond to anymore of your attacking. By the way, there's my FREEDOM. TO not read or respond to your posts...NOT BAN you. Now go change your depends. Oh, and I was talking about my FATHER. It's hard to read the obvious when you're so damn blind isn't it?
 
holyredeemer said:
However, after taking a deep breath.....(sigh) I have calmed down. After all, I am sure that is why you said it. To disrespect me and belittle me. It worked and good job pops! :eat3:
"Creative thought" That's a pretty charitable characterization. I would have gone with "stupid, hysterical, impetuous rants", but it's your post, so I'll trust your 'judgement'.

Secondly, its not about INSIDER books or anything else. It's simply about paying attention over the last six seasons, not only to the games, but the way the team has been constructed. Sure, the FO has surprised us all from time to time, but just the same, I think anyone who's been paying attention understands some basic truths about how this stuff works. Such as, teams are neither built nor dismantled, nor are championships won and lost in the first 48 hours of free agency, despite the protestations of the hold-my-breath-and-stamp-my-feet crowd.

I'm not even going to dignify the bizarre psychological profiling job. You're right - you don't know me. As far as the threats and so on, I'll just say that's a pretty sad response, yet not altogether surprising.
 
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holyredeemer said:
Only one man has ever had the right to call me son, and you are not even close to his caliber.
I don't know you, and I don't ever need to, I can just tell exactly what kind of person you are by reading your posts, just like alot of the other pats fans who have come to infiltrate this fine forum over the last few yrs. I am not going to point any fingers. If you feel like I am accusing YOU while you read this then you're probably right. ALOT of self rightous let's slam down anybody with a creative thought "cause that aint how the pats do it" schmoes.
You live out your life loving your team but only cause they make YOU feel better about yourself. People like you can often be found sitting around day dreaming about yourself hanging out with BB and Pioli over an Ice cold Sam Adams talking about us poor sad LITTLE fans who should be following the REDSKINS cuz they are exciting. Unlike you, the REAL FAN since day 1.
I don't care what INSIDER books some of you may read on how the pats do it. Hell, we have all read those same books, and just cause some of us think out side of the norm a little bit, there's something wrong with us. we're not "Real pats fans". Alright, I honestly don't care that much and wasn't going to post anymore on the matter. We each have our own views and that's what makes it soooo much fun. However, calling me son really PISSED me off and my first feeling was that if I saw you in person I would kick your a**.
However, after taking a deep breath.....(sigh) I have calmed down. After all, I am sure that is why you said it. To disrespect me and belittle me. It worked and good job pops! :eat3:

Dude -
I suggest you stow your Holier than thou attitude and learn how to use the QUOTE button so that people don't have to guess that you are replying to Pats76.

Also, leave the internet tough guy act at the door. You want to be taken seriously, how about you start acting with the intelligence you claim to have. Especially if you supposedly have read "all the insiders books." 90% of what you have babbled has been in direct contradiction to what BB and Pioli are on record as saying how they have done business.

You can think outside the box and still follow the basic standards that BB and Pioli use for their decision making.

But, Hey, weren't you the one saying that you didn't have to read other people's messages? Yet, here you are, reading them, and getting all pissy about what is being said. Guess there is a double standard.
 
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holyredeemer said:
No, I am not an internet tough guy. Just someone who can get pissed when someone feels the need to direspect him on a personal level. It has nothing to do with the internet. I'm done with you though. Your

It's 'you're' the contraction for you are, not the possessive 'your'

just a prick and I am not going to respond to anymore of your attacking. By the way, there's my FREEDOM. TO not read or respond to your posts...NOT BAN you. Now go change your depends.

Another gratuitous slam at older guys. Sigh.

Oh, and I was talking about my FATHER. It's hard to read the obvious when you're so damn blind isn't it?

Luke, Luke I'm your father.
 
holyredeemer said:
No, I am not an internet tough guy. Just someone who can get pissed when someone feels the need to direspect him on a personal level. It has nothing to do with the internet. I'm done with you though. Your just a prick and I am not going to respond to anymore of your attacking. By the way, there's my FREEDOM. TO not read or respond to your posts...NOT BAN you. Now go change your depends. Oh, and I was talking about my FATHER. It's hard to read the obvious when you're so damn blind isn't it?

Actually, your threats are exactly the type an Internet tough guy makes. Its pretty amazing how you whine and complain about Freedom of Speech, yet you so like to ignore the fact that other people have that same Freedom and that your excercising your Freedom of Speech can have consequences. Just because you have Freedom of Speech doesn't mean that you are free from the consequences of excercising that Freedom. I suggest you remember that the next time you try and rant.

As for Banning someone, you don't have that right because you don't OWN the board. That is Ian.

And, HolyRedeemer, I suggest that, if you don't like it, you take your holier than thou attitude somewhere else. You aren't better than anyone here and all you have done is yammered on and on about things that you aren't showing you have a full comprehension on. And then you get in a snit when people try to correct you and point out your errors.
 
He must be off defending his 'honor' on the number of other threads he's currently fighting on.
 
SCPatBoy said:
With our silence in FA so far i wonder if we are quietly working on a trade for a high profile player?


Man did this thread go off topic!

I don't know why everyone's so quick to discount a trade.

Last year BB very much wanted Derrick Mason, recognizing that his WR corps could use an infusion of talent.

The only thing that's changed from this year to last is that Branch is a year closer to the end of his contract, and our #2 receiver is a FA.

Aside from Givens there's not a lot in FA, and the draft looks weak. If we want a WR a trade might be the way to go - and we've already got plenty of 3,4,5,6 WRs - we need a #2 or #1B
 


So now we are into this.
 
BB does make trades. Think Ted Washington, Starks #3 (ugh!) and Andre Davis #5 IIRC. The only one I'd call a BIG trade (this topic) was Ted W, and that was for a measly 3rd pick. BB will wait until hysteria settles down or some team becomes hysterical enough to do something stupid. But a trade for a big name FA ain't gonna happen.
 
Joe, at least for me, its not a trade that I discount, its a MAJOR trade. What teams (aside from Philly, of course) are looking to deal a #1, #1B or a #2 receiver? And who are these players, specifically? And what would the Patriots give up? If someone could answer these questions in a logical way, and present a reasonable scenario, I doubt anyone would be discounting anything.
 
PATSNUTme said:


So now we are into this.
My dad's been dead since 1994. I don't think this is going to be a fair fight.
 
PatsWickedPissah said:
Luke, Luke I'm your father.

LMAO!!!!

Roller, please READ Management Secrets of the NEP, then get back to us with something insightful!

I would think after 3 Super Bowls "true" fans such as yourself would have some clue that BB and SP know what they are doing. The two of them don't toss this team together like a cassarole at the last minute and cross their fingers that things work out! Just because the Patriots don't hold a press confrence when they have free agents in for an interview does not mean they are all sitting on their hands!
 
I thought I had signed up for a football forum, but no, Patsfans.com must be a free counseling board for angry and easily offended pre-teens-> everything is personal and everything hurts....
 
PatsWickedPissah said:
BB does make trades. Think Ted Washington, Starks #3 (ugh!) and Andre Davis #5 IIRC. The only one I'd call a BIG trade (this topic) was Ted W, and that was for a measly 3rd pick. BB will wait until hysteria settles down or some team becomes hysterical enough to do something stupid. But a trade for a big name FA ain't gonna happen.

Phil, meet Corey. Corey, meet Phil.
 
Redeemer's on the ropes again. LOL!

Usual trade time is at the draft.

And they are usually small, for a draft pick to fill a specific need.

For blockbuster trades watch baseball or one of those basketball extravaganzas where you have to throw in half the team to make the salaries match.

If you want excitement this time of year, follow Washington or Arizona.

Of course that's where the excitement ends. (although the Skins snuck into the playoffs this year, I think they're headed for a scandal-penalty)
 
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