Coaching Loophole?

[MainePatsFan26]

Hey all, I just had a brief topic about assistant coaches I'd like to discuss.

Are coaching salaries the great loophole in the NFL? As far as I know, there is no salary cap or similar structure for coaches. Obviously with how much is going on in your average NFL game, having an elite coaching staff -- not just head coach -- goes a long way towards success. My question, then, is why don't some teams pay an absurd premium to keep great assistant coaches? The conventional wisdom is you seek a head coaching job because it pays more and creates a greater legacy. However, with McDaniels and Patricia meshing well with Belichick, why not back up the Brink truck?

We pay Belichick 7.5 million versus McDaniels 1.5 million. Why not give an assistant like McDaniels 5 million a season to keep him happy? Is there some sort of ratio in the NFL about how much an assistant coach should make in relation to the head coach? If so, pay Belichick 10 million a year and give McDaniels and Patricia a huge salary.

Having a great staff is what keeps you a winner as much as elite talent on the field. With Kraft being Mr. Money Bags with the Pats success, why not exploit the lack of a coaching salary cap by throwing a ton of money at the coaching staff?

Thoughts?

 

[Patstopia]

Right off the top of my head would be that a coach with head coaching aspirations will still leave for a better job no matter what they are currently being paid. So pay doesn't guarantee anything except more expenses.

 

[DaBruinz]

Hey all, I just had a brief topic about assistant coaches I'd like to discuss.

Are coaching salaries the great loophole in the NFL? As far as I know, there is no salary cap or similar structure for coaches. Obviously with how much is going on in your average NFL game, having an elite coaching staff -- not just head coach -- goes a long way towards success. My question, then, is why don't some teams pay an absurd premium to keep great assistant coaches? The conventional wisdom is you seek a head coaching job because it pays more and creates a greater legacy. However, with McDaniels and Patricia meshing well with Belichick, why not back up the Brink truck?

We pay Belichick 7.5 million versus McDaniels 1.5 million. Why not give an assistant like McDaniels 5 million a season to keep him happy? Is there some sort of ratio in the NFL about how much an assistant coach should make in relation to the head coach? If so, pay Belichick 10 million a year and give McDaniels and Patricia a huge salary.

Having a great staff is what keeps you a winner as much as elite talent on the field. With Kraft being Mr. Money Bags with the Pats success, why not exploit the lack of a coaching salary cap by throwing a ton of money at the coaching staff?

Thoughts?

There's this nifty little thing called a budget. Successful companies have them so they make money. That's not any different in the NFL.

As @Patstopia also mentioned, people don't want to be stuck behind the boss forever. No matter where they are. They want upward mobility and the chance to be the boss. Why do you think that Belichick resigned from the Jets? He didn't want to be beholden to Parcells as he would have been.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

This is probably one of those wink-and-a-nod situations, where all owners generally keep to the same ranges for coaches, who are indeed non-capped employees, to avoid bidding wars. Old boys club rules....

 

[Ring 6]

Hey all, I just had a brief topic about assistant coaches I'd like to discuss.

Are coaching salaries the great loophole in the NFL? As far as I know, there is no salary cap or similar structure for coaches. Obviously with how much is going on in your average NFL game, having an elite coaching staff -- not just head coach -- goes a long way towards success. My question, then, is why don't some teams pay an absurd premium to keep great assistant coaches? The conventional wisdom is you seek a head coaching job because it pays more and creates a greater legacy. However, with McDaniels and Patricia meshing well with Belichick, why not back up the Brink truck?

We pay Belichick 7.5 million versus McDaniels 1.5 million. Why not give an assistant like McDaniels 5 million a season to keep him happy? Is there some sort of ratio in the NFL about how much an assistant coach should make in relation to the head coach? If so, pay Belichick 10 million a year and give McDaniels and Patricia a huge salary.

Having a great staff is what keeps you a winner as much as elite talent on the field. With Kraft being Mr. Money Bags with the Pats success, why not exploit the lack of a coaching salary cap by throwing a ton of money at the coaching staff?

Thoughts?

I have a kick ass lawn guy, so I am thinking about paying him $200,000 a year

 

[WaterfallJumper]

I have a kick ass lawn guy, so I am thinking about paying him $200,000 a year

I'll do it for $150,000. Real bargain.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Hey all, I just had a brief topic about assistant coaches I'd like to discuss.

Are coaching salaries the great loophole in the NFL? As far as I know, there is no salary cap or similar structure for coaches. Obviously with how much is going on in your average NFL game, having an elite coaching staff -- not just head coach -- goes a long way towards success. My question, then, is why don't some teams pay an absurd premium to keep great assistant coaches? The conventional wisdom is you seek a head coaching job because it pays more and creates a greater legacy. However, with McDaniels and Patricia meshing well with Belichick, why not back up the Brink truck?

We pay Belichick 7.5 million versus McDaniels 1.5 million. Why not give an assistant like McDaniels 5 million a season to keep him happy? Is there some sort of ratio in the NFL about how much an assistant coach should make in relation to the head coach? If so, pay Belichick 10 million a year and give McDaniels and Patricia a huge salary.

Having a great staff is what keeps you a winner as much as elite talent on the field. With Kraft being Mr. Money Bags with the Pats success, why not exploit the lack of a coaching salary cap by throwing a ton of money at the coaching staff?

Thoughts?

Thats not the culture of that organization.

They don't pay people so they stay.

They pay people market value that are awesome, want to be here and have upside.

If Josh went to BB and said so and so is offering him $4m to be OC, BB would help him clean out his desk.

 

[Dr Pain]

Belichick is underpaid. $7.5M. He is worth more than any single player to a team.

 

[MainePatsFan26]

I have a kick ass lawn guy, so I am thinking about paying him $200,000 a year

Amen man. A burned lawn in August is a real downer.

 

[MainePatsFan26]

There's this nifty little thing called a budget. Successful companies have them so they make money. That's not any different in the NFL.

Agreed that successful companies have a budget. I'm just skeptical about paying quarterbacks 20-25 million a season, but quibbling over paying an assistant coach 5 million dollars. If winning brings in millions more per season, then isn't paying for quality assistant coaches a worthwhile investment? If the cost/benefit analysis suggests keeping assistants around for continuity and ingenuity means an extra 1-2 wins per season, then wouldn't you make that investment?

You can't seriously tell me that McDaniels and his schemes aren't worth 1-2 games a year versus whoever is the next man up.

 

[lurker1965]

Ignoring everything else that'd make this a problematic idea, Josh might not want to stay a second banana.

 

[RecoveringCowboy]

Got me curious.

The salary cap is currently $155.27M, but what is the average budget for the coaching staff? I realize their salaries are not as accessible, but just in case anyone has an idea.

 

[Jackson 2]

Amen man. A burned lawn in August is a real downer.

BS. You don't have to mow it in that searing heat. More time to go to the beach, look at beautiful young women essentially walking around in their underwear and drink ice-cold beer. No freaking contest.

 

[jmt57]

There's this nifty little thing called a budget. Successful companies have them so they make money. That's not any different in the NFL.

As @Patstopia also mentioned, people don't want to be stuck behind the boss forever. No matter where they are. They want upward mobility and the chance to be the boss. Why do you think that Belichick resigned from the Jets? He didn't want to be beholden to Parcells as he would have been.

While it is true that every organization has a budget, an NFL team is not quite like XYZ Inc.

All NFL teams make plenty of money, it is just a question of how much. More importantly NFL teams don't have to worry about investors leaving because profits are down. If there is a fan to shareholder analogy having to do with expenses the critical variable would be wins.

Why does someone elect to own an NFL team? They have already made enough money that they, their children and their grand children are set for life. These people want to win, it's about their ego. If they are looking at a pro football franchise strictly in terms of dollars and cents they would get a better return with an investment elsewhere.

Just my opinion but you can't compare the two. If part of the investment is some publicity, admiration and compliments then an additional 1% in expenses (about $4 million) would result in that benefit and still give a good team double-digit net profits of over $40 million.

Green Bay Packers set financial records

 

[deroc5050]

Belichick is underpaid. $7.5M. He is worth more than any single player to a team.

How do we know Bill is making 7.5 mil? Maybe he is making 10 mil a year.

 

[DaBruinz]

Got me curious.

The salary cap is currently $155.27M, but what is the average budget for the coaching staff? I realize their salaries are not as accessible, but just in case anyone has an idea.

I would suggest that each team's budget varies based on the tenure and experience of the coach and his staff.

 

[Observer]

Like most orgs, the salary structure is probably set to title, not to skill. There may also be large bonuses we don't know about.