CHFF: Open letter to BB

[Zeus]

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An insulting and stupid article.

Let's not forget that BB has built and rebuilt the Patriots 3 times - 2001, 2003/4 and 2007. The Patriots have remained competitve over a long period of time and I expect they will continue to do so as long as Bill Belichick is in charge.

 

[VJCPatriot]

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"An inability to put pressure on the quarterback had a dramatic impact on your ability to stop the pass, too: the Patriots finished 23rd in the all-important Defensive Passer Rating category. Your average opponents produced an 89.8 passer rating this year. That’s bad, Bill. Any quarterback with that type of passer rating for his career is in the Hall of Fame or headed for the Hall of Fame."

Still think our passrush and secondary are ok?

 

[Clonamery]

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"An inability to put pressure on the quarterback had a dramatic impact on your ability to stop the pass, too: the Patriots finished 23rd in the all-important Defensive Passer Rating category. Your average opponents produced an 89.8 passer rating this year. That’s bad, Bill. Any quarterback with that type of passer rating for his career is in the Hall of Fame or headed for the Hall of Fame."

Still think our passrush and secondary are ok?

No, I blame Dom Capers for everything including Vrabel's injured shoulder.

 

[condon84]

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This article should have been titled:

"Hindsight, it's 20/20!"

Belichick did what he normaly does to improve his team year by year. If Reche had caught that ball, the outcome might have been different. If Tyree had not made that catch with his helmet, the outcome might have been different. It's ridiculous that this guy is saying Bill has lost his way.

What about the years when we won the Super Bowl? What if Vinatierre had missed those game-winning FGs? Against the Rams, our defense was roasted in the 4th quarter. Against the Panthers, our defense again was roasted in the fourth quarter. Fact of the matter is, almost all our wins and losses in big games have come down to one or two plays that could have bounced our way or against us. To start writing stupid open letters to Bill now when we've had the ball bounce against us recently is being short-sighted.

 

[Deus Irae]

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And the evidence that CHFF has crapped the bed continues to mount. It's a damned shame, too. It used to be a "must read" site.

 

[Jackson 2]

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Seldom, if ever, have so many words been devoted to saying so little. What a self-absorbed wind-bag...

 

[ivanvamp]

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One of the most catastrophic professional sports injuries ever (non career ending) and a 3 point loss in the Super Bowl, somehow gives this idiot the balls to write that - it's a sad day in New England Sports.

In the Giants game, there were really 2 huge plays by the Giants, both in the 4th quarter.

- The 45 yarder to Boss that led to the 1st td to Tyree. That was a pass down the seam misread by Harrison (I think). Not a fluke, but a big play that the Pats don't normally give up.

- The miracle, "we won't call any of the 4 egregious holding calls", 32-yarder to Tyree on that fateful drive on 3rd and 10. Absolute fluke play.

The Giants don't get either of those, I'm confident they don't win the game. Yes, the Giants played a great game that day - as well as they could play. But that's 77 yards worth of gains on two plays that shouldn't have happened. And Eli ended up with a grand total of 255 yards passing. Take away those 77 yards, and Eli racks up a 178 yards. Whoop-de-doo.

Now, they happened, and they all count, but man. Hardly a reason to break up the Pats.

 

[VJCPatriot]

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Now, they happened, and they all count, but man. Hardly a reason to break up the Pats.

I don't think the point is that the Pats should be broken up. The point is that the Pats defense needs improvement. If you look at the numbers, that's quite true. Our defense is NOT 'perfectly fine' and there is room to make it better. It does not stack up to any of the Superbowl winning defenses.

 

[Pat_the_Patriot]

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When it comes to football: In BB I trust.

Open letter, puh lease.

BB is the best thing that has happened to the Patriots ever (with a tip of the cap to Mr. Kraft buying the team). BB has all the help that he needs running the team... who the heck is this guy?

 

[Deus Irae]

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When it comes to football: In BB I trust.

Open letter, puh lease.

BB is the best thing that has happened to the Patriots ever (with a tip of the cap to Mr. Kraft buying the team). BB has all the help that he needs running the team... who the heck is this guy?

I don't mind the open letter. What I do mind is the faulty analysis and shoddy reasoning.

 

[ivanvamp]

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I don't think the point is that the Pats should be broken up. The point is that the Pats defense needs improvement. If you look at the numbers, that's quite true. Our defense is NOT 'perfectly fine' and there is room to make it better. It does not stack up to any of the Superbowl winning defenses.

The article suggested trading Moss and trading Welker to get better on D. I know that's not technically breaking them up, but wow...that would be a major re-shuffling, don't you think?

My idea (in another thread) is to trade Cassel for Tony Gonzalez and KC's 2nd round pick (#34 or #35, I think). Come next year, with Brady and Maroney healthy, and with the addition of Gonzalez, we've made the offense *MUCH* better.

Then we use our #1, our three #2's (our own, SD's from a prior trade, and then KC's), and two #3's (our own, and a comp for Asante) to add young defensive talent. No doubt that a few of those guys would turn out to be pretty nice pickups. Lots of chances to improve the D not only for 2009, but for years to come.

 

[VJCPatriot]

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The article suggested trading Moss and trading Welker to get better on D. I know that's not technically breaking them up, but wow...that would be a major re-shuffling, don't you think?

I think they must have been exaggerating there. Trading those guys doesn't make sense. But the Pats will have the draft picks and money to seriously upgrade their defense this offseason.

 

[GroganCountry]

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I absolutely hate open letters. They are usually self-aggrandizing pools of drivel. "Look at me, I'm talking to Bill Belichick".

That being said...

Sure, Belichick needs to invest in the defense and make it the stamp of next years team, but trade Moss and Welker? Ok. Like the 49ers would have been wise to trade Jerry Rice to boost their defense.

Am I crazy or does the defense seem to have the pretty fundamental problem of being bad tacklers? I seem to get frustrated many times a game by one or more of our defenders getting hands on the ball carrier but not actually bringing him down. It was the same last year (the failure to down Marion Barber and Eli Manning being the 2 most glaring examples).

Couldn't agree more. I too hate "open letters too...". And everyone knows the Pats need to tackle better and rush the passer better. But don't "trade Moss and Welker"...talk about a look at me statement by the writer.

 

[vyrago]

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Couldn't agree more. I too hate "open letters too...". And everyone knows the Pats need to tackle better and rush the passer better. But don't "trade Moss and Welker"...talk about a look at me statement by the writer.

Bad tackling is a major problem and certainly the defense has come up small in the 4th quarter of some important games in the last 3 years, but does this guy seriously picture BB reading this and slapping his forehead and saying,"so that's what's wrong!"? This is a lot of obvious hooey.

Btw, what is the point of open letters anyway? Aren't they editorials by another name?

 

[Mountain_Commando]

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An open letter to Bill Belichick

By Kerry J. Byrne
WEEI.com

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This little re-confirmation of conventional football wisdom tells me that it’s time for you and the rest of New England management to remove your head from your rectum and revert to the old, boring ways of winning Super Bowls.

Here’s the problem, Bill: Somewhere along the way you and Patriots management sold your souls to the devil — you were apparently tired of the “boring” tag that plagued the organization during its Super Bowl years.

How about showing some respect? So now this scumbag is the expert we should be listening to? This article really makes me mad.

 

[thechris]

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BB's no fool. I'm sure he's planning on major defensive upgrades this offseason.

 

[reflexblue]

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We had a pure offensive draft in '06 in '07 we drafted Meriweather signed Stallworth traded for Welker and traded for Moss. Last year was a defensive draft with MAYO Wheatly, Crable etc. But i don't think its enough We may lose Seymour or Wilfork we need another LB, safety, and CB.
Maybe i'm wrong but it seems our defense is the thing that has let us down by wearing down at the end of the year or through injuries. The older you get usually the more injury prone you get. Its just natural, look at Rodney, Teddy B, Seau etc.

While driving into work it occured to me what i really should have said is CONTINUE to work on the defense. I think that a few years ago after the AFCCG against Indy he may have thought that he could mask an aging defense by fielding a great offense,but has since had second thoughts about it. If we had two very good CB it would make the rest of the D so much better especially the pass rush.
BTW I never read past the defence has toget better. So if he said trade Welder and Moss.......no way. I only agree that the d needs more help. How many times has it been said over the last couple of years " if we could have only stopped them on 3rd down we would have won the game"? a lot.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

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And I'm guessing Mr. Byrne doesn't realize that trading Welker would eat $2M of the Patriots' (suddenly quite precious) cap space.

 

[Steamer86]

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Open Letter to Byrne,

Shut your pie hole. You sound like a clown. Arizona , like last year's Pats, was one play from winning the Superbowl.....

 

[Sicilian]

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I don't think the point is that the Pats should be broken up. The point is that the Pats defense needs improvement. If you look at the numbers, that's quite true. Our defense is NOT 'perfectly fine' and there is room to make it better. It does not stack up to any of the Superbowl winning defenses.

Most rational people aren't saying that the Pats defense doesn't need improvement. Of course it does. But this article is suggesting that the reason the defense hasn't returned to 2003/2004 form is a conscious denial on BB's part to move away from defense and focus on offense. That, to me, is an unbelievably ridiculous claim to make.